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Theophilia
04-23-2004, 11:52 PM
I'm going to try and post about tonight but I know aol will bounce me sooner or later, so this might be a bunch of short posts.
First, for all you outside the area---it RAINED. Sky opened up aboput 6 and we who walked a mile from the metro all got soaked. Didn't matter, of course, you can't keep a JE fan down! But it did keep some away, the Friday afternoon trafiic was badm, anyway, the street re-routes didn't help nor did all the cars converging on the venue.
We got there just before 7, and found a whle lot of empty seats! They delayed the start so that people could get there.
My daughter and I, as a lot of you know, just moved here from Colorado. My daughter was born there, which means a lot in that state, and I lived there over thirty years and always thought I would pass there and be quite content never to leave.
There are maybe 2000 seats in the hall, and on many are brass plaques stating in whose name the seat was donated. My daughter pointed to the one affixed to her chair arm..."Donated by the Colorado branch of the DAR."
My mom, who was closer to my daughter thean to me, was the first one to move there and got me to move there. I am pretty sure it was no coincidence, especially when.....
Theophilia
04-23-2004, 11:59 PM
it was about 7:20 when he appeared, everyone was standing and applauding and such. I said something like, "Well, there's John with his outrageous aura..." and the woman in front of me heard me and turned around, "You can see it?" she asked. "Oh yeah. You, see it?" She said, "It's white." I said yes, and assurred her she was really seeing it ( I remember how a lot of people, including me, thought at the workshop maybe there was something wrong with their eyes because it was so bright.)
So, at the break I thought I'd tell this lady in front of me about seeing it at the workshop and in that mentioned this board and she got a look and asked me what my name was. So, then I knew she was a JEFriend and I told her. It was Steluna!! (Did I spell that right?) What a sweetheart she is! Okay, it was a big venue, only a few of us went, how wierd is it that I sat right behind a Friend I had never met?
So cool. She will tell you all about her chair! Which is an even better story than Colorado!
I have really detailed notes about the readings, but other people with experience will do a better job posting about them, what I wanted to say was....
Theophilia
04-24-2004, 12:11 AM
Someone here asked if they should go to a seminar. I wondered myself why I was going. I mean, I watch CO religiously, tape it for when it is off the air, how different can a seminar be? I was at the November workshop, have seen John in person, spoken with him a few times, so, would this be sucha big deal?
Yeah. It was. It was very different. It was full of readings in which he gave this astoundingly personal information and advice from the Other Side for helping people get through grief or heal relationships. It was a side of him I never saw before. Or maybe, a quality of reading I never experienced before.
When I walked out of there I wanted to hug every person I saw on the street, fellow JE attendees, protesters, business people, police officers, the homeless guy in the metro station. I felt completely connected to humanity.
And John? He was HUGE. He looked wonderful, even on this very demanding schedule. His spirit was amazing, his aura hugely bright all the way to the end. I'm so glad CO is over for him, this seems to really be his element. As if we all energized him as much as he did us.
Oh well, I know you guys want to hear details, I know other people will come post them. I just wanted to answer that question about should I go to a seminar.
YES.
Theo<--wishing everone this kind of peace and joy.
PBPan
04-24-2004, 01:14 AM
:jumper: Theo how exciting!! Thanks for the quick post, looking forward to reading more. Thank you so much for sharing!!
God Bless,
Megan
AnnieB43
04-24-2004, 08:27 AM
Hi Theo, thanks so much for sharing your experience!
I just wanted to comment on the aura.....I have been to numerous seminars, as well as the Nov. workshop. I consider myself a healthy skeptic, and am forever questioning everything!
Did his aura come and go, or could you see it at will?
I only ever saw what I would guess was his aura, only briefly, when I saw him in New Haven. There was this bright light (white) surrounding his entire body, and it kind of merged into his body, and flowed around him, even as he paced across the stage. I only saw it for minutes, if that.
I was so shocked that that was what it might be, that I just watched and stared. Finally, the skeptic in me said "nonsense", its just the venue lighting! So, I asked my husband if he saw the light all around John, and he said no! Shorly there-after, it disappeared, and I have questioned myself ever since. :hmm:
Thanks again for sharing with us! :)
...Okay, it was a big venue, only a few of us went, how wierd is it that I sat right behind a Friend I had never met?
How great is that? Although I shouldn't be, I never cease to be amazed at these things! :D
Sharon Parrish
04-24-2004, 10:34 AM
Fortunately, I got there before most of the rain started. I was so impressed that it was very much like the show, and confirmed to me that he really knows what he is doing -- it confirmed that his show didn't edit information that people couldn't validate. The people he read seemed to validate almost everything that he said.
I was particularly touched when he read a young woman who lost her boyfriend in a helicopter crash in Iraq in March. And yes, she was a last minute replacement for someone who couldn't go.
As for the aura, I was so exited that I forgot to look for most of the seminar, but just before it ended, I realized that he had what I thought was a huge yellow-green aura. I asked the person in front of me if they saw his aura, and they said they, too, saw a yellow-green aura. At first I thought it might be the lights, but it moved with him as he moved off the stage. I was pretty far back and had a difficult time seeing him most of the time, or I might have noticed a white aura earlier.
I'm sorry that I didn't get to meet up with the other people from here, but I hope that you all got as much out of it as I did.
Sharon
Amy Rose
04-24-2004, 02:15 PM
wow!!!! thanks so much for sharing guys!! it sounds like the seminar went well!!!! to me this only confirms even more when john means the people who will be there are the people who are meant to be there, and that goes as well for the seats--its no accident who you sit by!!!! i just love it when things like that happen!!! thanks for sharing and i cant wait to hear more!! :) :)
chassiewes
04-24-2004, 06:43 PM
Starlasue et al., so sorry I missed y'all. I watched for balloons but never saw any. The hall itself is so massive, with so many entrances, that I'm not surprised I missed you.
This was not my first seminar -- I saw John at Jamestown, Charlotte, and twice on Long Island -- but it's interesting to see his growth and how much more at ease he seems now. The readings were unhurried and validated in almost all instances. And no matter how big the venue, John makes each seminar seem so intimate. It's like being a part of a big family reunion and you leave feeling so connected to everyone. And I will never forget the lady who asked if she could give John a hug. He came down off the stage, made his way up to the balcony and got and gave a hug. This says more to me about John the person than I can articulate. He is a treasure and I for one feel so very fortunate to have been able to witness and share in his work first hand. Am I disappointed at not being read? You betcha. But to leave feeling as at peace and connected as I did made up for a lot. That's about it. If you ever have the opportunity to attend a seminar, do it. Watching on TV is fine, but being there.... There's nothing like it.
starlasue
04-24-2004, 07:41 PM
Hey chassie
They wouldn't let me bring my balloon in! Phil and I did however stand to the left and DonnaJ found us b/c of our carnations. We had a nice visit. What a lovely lady.
Phil even went to the other entrance side to see if anyone was standing to the left over there. Glad nobody grouped us for a picture. Wet is not the word for what most people looked like! :laff: At least we had umbrellas so the upper parts were dry!
Our seats were really good. He was no more than 75 – 100 feet from us throughout. The exception was when he came into our section to give a lady a hug who requested it – then he was about 15 feet away.
When he first entered the stage, some of us stood to applaude. He came out and waved to folks. When he came toward our side of the stage, he looked right at me, I nodded hello and he nodded back. That was soooooo cool. Even Phil acknowledged that he could see John connected with me there.
I saw John's aura. Most of the evening it was white and very broad. At two points it was a very brilliant white (almost glowing) tight in to his body (basically blurring his features) and then the regular white farther out. He has a pretty large aura; most I see are not that expansive.
I too was moved by the reading about the soldier killed in Iraq. When John was reading someone else he asked about a helicopter and an impact,
From my notes (I'm 'anal' what can I say - I hope I got this about right)
(Just before switching)Do you have the impact and helicopter? WHOA – (here he turned all the way around to face a section near us and high up) - who up there understands this?
I do (a young woman answers).
Get her a mike. I’ll come back to you.
(He went on with the other sitter and ss he was finishing that reading):
Is there a C or K connection to you? Military?
No
I am switching. (he directs his attention back up to the lady he asked to wait) An accident occurred that took his life.
Yes
An explosion?
Yes
Three passed at the same time – he’s showing me three.
Well, more than three.
He is showing me three passed the same way at the same time. This happened in Iraq, right?
Yes
Military?
Yes, Marines.
I get this as an energy to your side. Brother or husband?
Boyfriend
Ah, I see them as the same thing. What is the letter you have with you.
I have his picture.
No this is a letter, he is folding it up and it has his writing all over it. Does this picture have his writing all over it?
No, I don’t know what that is.
Reily, o’Reiley, Wiley – what’s that?
He’s Ryan
OH! His mom needs to know he is okay. Did she know you were coming here tonight.
Yes
You have a cell phone? Have his mom’s number?
Yes
Whip it out and let’s call her. She needs to hear that he is okay. Are you Lisa?
No, his sister is Alese (sp).
His mom lose another son?
Don’t think so
Alese is older.
Yes
They are not from this state.
No, Illinois
Is there a reason, he’d want me to smell your shoe?
He was a runner and his shoes were always nasty.
No, I don’t think that is it.
His Mom isn’t answering; she’s not there.
Okay, remember that he's showing me shoes. Was he missing before they found him or they weren’t aware he was involved and then found out that he was in the explosion?
No
Yes, he is showing me that he was like in Division B, but got moved to C and they didn’t get that right away. And he is showing me 1 of 3 again.
Maybe, not sure.
Joe/John pass with him?
Jay passed with him. His friend, John, is still here.
In the States, not Iraq?
Yes
Tell John that Ryan came through. John has a new son.
Yes (becoming very emotional) – just born.
Did you get something governmental around this?
No
I see you getting something governmental – something that usually goes to family, but you will have it for a while.
He has a major 'V' connection on the other side. Tell mom that he has his sibling with him. March is important, why?
That is when he passed.
Something else in March? Is there a small white dog like a Bichon or poodle?
Don’t know.
Tell his mom I said that. His dad is still here.
Yes
Military?
Yes
There is some kind of military memorial or something with a focus on father and son.
Yes, that happened.
December is significant – why?
Both of our birthdays are in December.
Was your being here unexpected or last minute?
Yes, friend got tickets for me.
**************
That was that one as I got it in my notes. It was very moving. I have many pages of notes.
I had two big me-to(s). One had to do with a gentleman with a cervical spine fusion. Even John's movements duplicated the kind of movements I make with my neck and arm and hand.
Then he did one about a mother passing and thanking the daughter for helping her to pass. That reading so much paralleled my experience with my m-i-l, that it hit both Phil and I as a real me-to.
Anyway, that's enough for now. I hope it was okay that I shared the Iraq story. All in all there were about 13 readings - I haven't gone through all my notes to journal them yet. I am only up to number 6. I am a complusive note taker (I am always asked to take minutes for stuff b/c I just naturally do that anyway! :) )
The whole experience was phenomenal. And I am sure I will be recalling things for days. He had some good insights that he brought up himself and from the question and answers that were very helpful to me.
So glad I was able to go.
Peace
starlasue
Irishrose
04-24-2004, 07:59 PM
Sharing your notes, your feelings, your me too's, draws everyone of us in and again we are there watching, listening and once again we become students.
Please feel free to share as often as your notes gel, as often as your mind is awakened to another experience that you had . We love every word.
Thirteen readings is quite a lot - big or small they all have lessons for us.
Thanks,
Irishrose
starlasue
04-24-2004, 08:13 PM
Irishrose
I had so many experiences yesterday. One really big validation was on the way down. We planned the trip to avoid major 4-6 lane higways b/c I tend to get panic attacks when on them. So best to just go around a different way. This took us through beautiful countrysides and wooded areas.
At one point as I was driving, I said to Phil, "Ya know I thought we'd have seen a hawk as a sign that going down here is the right thing to be doing." So I said, "Lord, a hawk would be awesome about now, just so I know I am in tune with what needs doing."
I kid you not, within two minutes, a beautiful broad wing swooped across the road in front of us. Needless to say hubby and I were wowed for the first time, but certainly not the last time, of the day.
If you all want I can post more of the readings as they got recorded in my notes. And during Q&A there was an analogy he gave about his thoughts of pre-destination that was so awesome to us. I'll try to get that one on tomorrow.
Peace
starlasue
Yes, we want, starlasue. Keep on posting. :)
starlasue
04-24-2004, 08:44 PM
Ok Gail -
Here are the two just before the Iraq one. My version anyway as I took them down. :D
These were two women who came together. I numbered folks so I could keep them straight.
Went to a woman mid back, upper level. (1)
Your Mom wants to come through first. She’s passed?
Yes
She is showing me a white flower. Is there a birthday or anniversary nearby?
No
You have her ring?
Yes
She says to say she’d sorry it turns your finger green or cuts it or something. Is it a wedding ring or engagement ring? She showing me her left hand.
No, it is the ring she wore all the time and when my son was born, Mom gave it to me.
I am seeing a helicopter? Do you have an impact involving a helicopter?
No
Is her name Mary or Marie?
No but that is my friend’s Mom’s name and she is passed – this is my friend (2)
Do you have the impact and helicopter? WHOA – (here he turned all the way around to face a section near us and high up) - who up there understands this?
I do (a young woman answers). G
Get her a mike and I’ll come back to you.
Back to (2)
Have you had a breast CA scare? Currently have a breast issue that needs addressed?
Not that I know of.
“Well I am not coming up there to give you an exam!” Everyone laughs.
Seriously, who connected to you has had breast CA.
My Aunt
Her husband is passed.
Yes
Your mom is showing me pink roses as her way of sending her love.
Someone in your family getting/just got a new car?
Yes
She’s showing me a vacation property or home – a place where you would gather and reminisce.
Yes
Back to the fist lady – what’s your name?
Heidi
Is there a C or K connection to you? Military?
No
Now after the soldier, these are as far as I had typed up.
(4) Same section, I have a father figure passed with CA of throat, lungs or esophagus. (No one fesses up so John pinpoints them) Section O, 3rd row red shirt.
Yes, lung disease
He says there is a huge teddy bear connection.
(crying) Yes, he got it for being an organ donor.
September – end of – significant. He has his mom with him.
Yes
In life he wasn’t he nicest man
Yes
There was a substance issue
Yes
Uh, I hate to ask, are you pregnant?
God I hope not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Lots of laughter)
Positive?
I REALLY hope not!!!!!!!!
Ok since Dad passed has there been a baby?
Yes my uncle recently had child. WHEW
Did they toy with a really funky name, where you’d go “poor kid”?
No
This is a unique nickname for a boy. Passing in last 3 years?
Yes
(5) Down front here. 1,2,3,4, 5th row - Woman with crossed arms – do you have a younger male right below you that has passed.
No but I have my dad’s ashes here (holding up necklace)
Okay but that’s not a younger male – audience – what happens when you give too much info? On the count of three...
Ooooo bad!
Ok John, I won’t say anything else.
Who is Robert?
I'm not saying anything!
Don't clam up now - (with a giggle)
My dad.
OK, NOW he’s coming through. Man with her (5) – Her dad is bring a younger male through for you - Jimmy/James?
Yes, Jimmy was his nephew passed 20 years ago.
(6) (Starts talking about murder, but it isn't acknowledged right away. He abruptly points just in front of him in the front row.) You have someone who was murdered. Someone in family is shot with another family member. Like boyfriend shot girlfriend, then self. Gunshot?
(young lady whose legs were bouncing to beat the band) Yes, he was murdered with someone else.
To be continued..........Sorry that's all for now - I'll get more on tomorrow. He did bop around that front section a bit. Gotta hit the hay! Night all!
Amy Rose
04-24-2004, 09:15 PM
awesome awesome notes starla and everyone else!!!!!!!!!!! you guys had an amazing experience!!! im so happy for you!!!
wow so he really did give a hug to a lady? i have always wanted to ask him that but i didnt think he would do so!!! wow the next time im at a seminar i will try and ask that. that has been the one thing i have wanted to ask him for so long. that lady is really lucky!!!!!!
thanks so much again for sharing!!! :)
Irishrose
04-24-2004, 10:22 PM
I am so struck by how quickly you receive the validations you askl for Starlasue. Has it always been like that? You and your husband must be very plugged in.
Good job with the notes. Let's see what tomorrow brings...
Nite all,
Irishrose
I'm off to see JE at Westbury Music Fair. Hope to see some of you there!!
And I hope I can relate some stories for you!! Wish me luck.
My 3 sisters and I are going together. I was told that my mom is a BIG force on the other side. Keeping my fingers crossed and sending good thoughts for some "piece of cake" messages!!
JoAnn :musicnote :musicnote
Toni Marshall
04-25-2004, 01:19 PM
There were many belly laughs at John's explanations of what to expect, his stories about previous readings, his misinterpretations of signs and symbols. Australia's meaning for the word spoof is not the same as America's, and the Australian crew just laughed and enjoyed the joke many times over at John's expense instead of telling him what was so funny.
I especially liked his story of his relative no one liked, but who came through to him as a message to his aunt, whom John encouraged to attend one of his seminars. His mother and grandmother showed up in his reading for his aunt, to his great shock, and with new appreciation for his, heretofore hard to appreciate, relative.
It's amazing how subtly 2,000 people can say "awe", with compassion for others in grief. Very respectfully, with no need to show compassion, more an expression of compassion.
The last reading was a me too, to some extent, for me, too.
I fought with the doctor, instructed the hospital staff, fought with my family, yet my mother suffered far less pain the last 3 days of her life as a result. The message was given to someone in my area of the hall, but was clearly not my message.
I was sure I'd be read, could picture the many funny ways a reading might go, considering my family, but felt my mother was with me the whole time anyway. It was a nice experience.
This morning, I remembered a well-loved babysitter from my childhood who's been dead many years. I realized I never knew her last name, and asked for it.
The name Campbell came to me in the same way John explains he gets his messages, almost immediately. I've considered a couple ways I might check this out. In the meantime, I'm trusting this was Laura's last name.
From Toni
starlasue
04-25-2004, 01:30 PM
Irish - No I don't always get validations that quickly or at all sometimes. However, I have been sensitive to that all my life and not a day goes by that something doesn't come through. But this past two weeks I must have been VERY open b/c they are pelting me with things! :laff: Hubby has not always been so observant or in tune, but he too has been seeing more signs as he gets older. But living with me for 29 years, he either has to accept it or think his wife is totally nutzoid - he chooses the former most of the time! :D (Mostly b/c he knows my track record, so he takes no chances!)
Toni - I too was amazed at the audience's personality and how almost everyone was so into it. It really was like sitting at a family reunion and enjoying hearing stories from relatives you never met.
JoDi - Have a terrific time and travel mercies to you!
Peace
starlasue
starlasue
04-25-2004, 01:49 PM
Okay - continuing my notes. This starts in with the one I was in the middle of. John moved around quite a bit over those 4 or 5 rows. As you all know he moves fast and talks fast.
(6) Abruptly points just in front row. You have someone who was murdered. Someone in family is shot with another family member. Like boyfriend shot girlfriend, then self. Gunshot?
(young lady whose legs were bouncing to beat the band)
This is gruesome.
Yes, murdered and he was with someone else.
Husband/brother?
Boyfriend
It was outside a store/or gas station/
I don’t know
I am seeing fluorescent lights
Was this south of here?
South Brooklyn
That’s not south. Think Florida. Is there a Florida connection?
Could it be Puerto Rico?
(Here the audience mumbles – 'that would be south')
(John responds to the girl) – see how quickly they turn! (laughter)
This was an on again/off again relationship. It was hard for him to commit.
Yes
One of the two claims more responsibility for these murders.
Yes
5 is important – 5 yrs/5 months/the 5th
Yes
Something he was doing, involved in, went very wrong and that is how this happened.
Yes
You are feeling guilty b/c you were having a tiff just before this happened. And you were like “he deserved it”. He is validating to you that he did. You shouldn’t feel guilty.
A father figure passed 1,2,3. H sound, Harry, Henry, could be J if Hispanic name, I hear H.
Cousin’s father with H name.
Heart attack
Something like that.
Back to man with reading (5) – Connected to your Jimmy, who was military?
Me
Did someone have a major fire?
We did.
Your mom passed, was not of clear mind, like Alzheimer’s.
Yes
She is now of clear mind. What is the 28th?
(Woman answered #5) My dad worked for Bethlehem Steel for 28 years.
Back to the man: You have a problem with your foot, watch it. You can’t feel it?
I have peripheral neuropathy b/c of diabetes and cant’ feel my feet.
They are cautioning you to take care of your feet.
(7) (Same section) I am seeing a piano.
(Young woman )– yes.
Dad wants me to acknowledge the piano.
Yes
You took a flop of a lifetime. What’s this?
I fell in front of the whole school in the bus lines once. It was the most embarrasing moment of my life. (Sarcastically) THANKS DAD (laughter)
He’s rocking a baby, do you understand?
(crying) Yes
Fishing – he’s having a bunch of fun fishing.
We fish in the summer all the time.
I hate fish, won’t even watch Nemo. (laughter) No really! He is showing me a big ‘ol fish – tuna or something (here they got into a back and forth about fish and John saying he knows nothing about fish)
We used to get Bluefish?
Is that big?
Yes
He has a brother with him to his side.
Not brother.
Who are you with?
These 3. Could it be my friend?
(8) You might not like me for this – Did someone like – married, divorced, married – and 1st one not around.
Yes
There is a big caution about financial or business. Someone can hardly balance the check book.
(7) answers: Not me, hubby. He is always messing it up.
Be careful, watch this.
Shift to his left – upper section – pointed out someone
Mom passed.
No
Whoever you are with lost mom. Katherine, C or K. Definitely a mom vibration.
My mom is C but she is definitely alive.
(Man near her): my mother passed.
No, not you.
(9) Stomach ailment or peritonitis. C or K
My wife, Kathleen -her mom died that way.
Okay, who jumped out of planes?
My dad.
Your Dad is coming through with your m-i-l. (man chuckles: REALLY?) Who passed a name down?
I have my uncle’s name, although I use a nickname instead.
Who is known by chickpea or split pea or some nickname like that?
Sissy?
No this is food related – you can’t eat Sissy – Oh my (John blushes -the place roars)
(9)’s daughter: Do I have to say? My brother uses to call me Fishface all the time.
Who would know this?
Oh just about anybody he has met, he even announced it at his wedding!
Back to (9) – I’ve lost the feeling in my leg – it’s missing or I can’t feel it.
That was my dad, from parachuting; he lost the sensation in his lower legs.
Boy with a metal box – it has a key. Are you a twin?
No
Twin’s in the family? Go to your wife’s side – that is where the twin is.
Oh, my wife’s grandfather was a twin.
Breast CA on wife’s side? Problem on one side. School teacher.
My wife’s grandma.
Your dad may not have had the chance to be a grandfather or even the parent he should have been.
Yes
Your dad loved you even though he had a hard time showing it. Are the disks in you neck better? It’s like it is fused. (Here he starts to move his neck shoulder and left hand like someone with pinched nerve or recovering from surgery would do.)
No, that’s not me, but my daughter is a pain in the neck all the time. (laughter)
I am switching – up there. (10) You have a problem with a neck fusion?
Yes
Your father has passed and you had the same relationship with your son as this man had with his dad.
Yes
Healthcare issue – peptic ulcer?
My sister
You have spine problems.
I have problems all up and down my spine.
Your dad has your son with him. What is the 19th?
My birthday.
Your mom is there too. What is the 23rd?
Yes, my dad passed on the 23rd.
You didn’t get to say goodbye to someone and you feel bad about it, do you understand?
Yes, my mom.
She wants to wipe the slate clean. Do have a stepson?
No
I see a father/stepson relationship.
That would be my son who lived with his mom and stepfather.
When his death happened you weren’t notified right away.
Yes
You feel bad that you were not the kind of father to your son that you would liked to have been. Your dad says he will be that with him on the other side. But you need to work through this and toward healing while you are here – do you understand? You need to heal you!
Yes, I needed to hear that. THANK YOU so much.
(11) All the way in the back! I hear Joe!
My mother is Jo, she is passed.
Did you refer to people as big Jo, little Jo, like that. I see lots of Jo’s.
Several people with names that started with ‘JO’
Your mom says she loved you dearly but you refer to her a being a bitch.
Yes (shyly & with a snicker)
One of 4 kids?
Yes if all four would have been born.
Who’s Pete or Pat?
My sister’s ex
Are you the baby of the family?
No, my sister.
Ah, sister was the golden child?
Yes
Did anyone tell sis that she can’t wear that title any more now that mom is gone????
(Woman laughs). John says: No really! Laughter
Two people are not talking at all.
Yes
“Cut that crap out!” Mom says.
okay
Your dad still here?
As far as I know.
Does he have a significant other?
I wouldn’t know, I haven’t seen him in 22 years!
Okay who is the father figure to you?
My uncle
There was strife between Uncle’s wife and your mom.
Yes
Let them know that mom came through. Let your sister know that mom was at her wedding. She concealed something of your mom’s under her dress.
Who is Ann or Anna?
Mom’s mom – not passed.
Father passed – another Joe. She says the person to the right of you is not blood related.
Yes
To (11)’s friend: Mom feels like you are family.
Yes
You drove her somewhere. You are tough. She had to pee and you wouldn’t stop.
(Laughing) Yes
You helped her to get through the dying process. She thinks of you as an adopted daughter. She says don’t let others dictate to what is right for you. You are to honor yourself!
After some Q & A – John said: This one is going to be heavy. Up there – 1,2,3 over, over, over.
Someone was very ill and you assisted them, you gave them lots of morphine to pass. They are saying thank you for helping them. Very heavy morphine – I do not mean assisted suicide, but you just upped the morphine so the pain would be tolerable.
Yes
Father passed with lots of morphine.
Yes
He died at home.
At a hospital.
But family was responsible for the meds and palliative care?
No
(12) No this isn’t you then. Another woman – yes – you lost a parent?
Yes
At home? Morphine? CA?
Yes
You had bathing issues?
OH my God!
You ended up doing things you thought you never would or could do for your mom.
Yes
You increased her morphine without approval at the very, very, very end when nothing was keeping the pain down.
Yes
You need to know that you did not end her life, her cancer ended her life, you only made the passing easier for her. She is sending you a big thank you for that.
Was somebody riding a bike in her room? Up and down and up and down? What’s this?
No
This is like one of those little trikes with the streamers on the handlebars. What is August?
My daughter’s 6th birthday. We are planning on getting her a bike, not a trike, but it has streamers on it.
Oh, I just screwed the reference up. Sam? Seymour, S, Simon….
My sister is Sandra.
Are their 5 in the family?
No, 6
Then five are alike and one is different.
Yes
Dad passed first and met Mom when she crossed. When she was dying she would talk to him – like he was in the room. In her bedroom, she’d point to the closet on the left where ... that is where dad was.
Yes, that’s her room, there were pictures there.
I am seeing a little grey dog.
MY DOG! Oh my God, he died two weeks after mom!
She wants you to know that it is okay to laugh at some of the stuff that took place while she was dying. Some drug induced or .. It is okay that you laugh at the funny stuff.
OK, thanks.
She was totally sure she was dying. What is the Ovaltine stuff – it’s gritty?
We used to give her at the end, Ensure or something like that.
Well she didn’t like it! (laughter) She says congratulations for finally changing your curtains.
Oh my, we have had the other people’s curtains in our house for 10 years – I just got new ones a few weeks ago!
She likes the photo that you have of her and your grandmom, but there is a picture that has no glass in it.
Yes
Fix it; she says it is oxidizing or something. It needs protecting. Somebody is graduating a certain school or something.
High school.
Please, please, remember she’s only a thought away. Everyone needs to take that along home with them - your loved ones are only a thought away.
*************
So there are my notes. I probably loused a feew things up, but hey, there was just a little excitement in the air! :jumper:
Peace
starlasue
Toni Marshall
04-25-2004, 01:57 PM
Don't let Starlesue tell you she messed anything up.
I was there, and she wrote it as I remember it.
toni
Steluna
04-25-2004, 01:59 PM
keep us from our appointed rounds! Wow, you guys took such great notes! Chassie, Sue et al, sorry we got there so late, sans balloons etc. We finally found a parking space two blocks from the venue and waited until the rain and wind and lightning let up before we made a break for it. On the way in, my friend Susan and I were having a huge laugh remembering our beloved friend Esther Davis, who died in 1993 at age 44. The three of us were in line for a Joan Baez show at Constitution Hall and Esther had to pee REALLY BAD! They won't let you in ahead of time and we were stuck. So Esther went behind some of the bushes and did what she had to do! We have had so many laughs through the years remembering that night. We even went by the very same bushes on our way in Friday! So you read Theo's story of how she was sitting right behind us etc. After she and Sarah told us about the seat dedications etc, I looked at mine. The middle name of the person was 'Davis'. My friend Susan looked at her seat and the seat was dedicated to William Davis, which had been Esther's father's name as well. So we considered this a big 'hello' from Esther who we still miss every day. Susan was carrying a memo that Esther had written(we all worked together) the year she died and she had been hoping(me, too) to hear from Esther(me, too)! And we did!
I can't elaborate on the great notes that have already been offered but I can say that I saw John's aura and I don't know why...I have never seen an aura in my life! Maybe this stuff is catching! John looked very well, rested and a little slimmer than when last I saw him in Long Island. I had also never seen him do such an extensive intro/education/anecdotal talk before going to readings but I thought it was excellent, especially for first-timers. I agree with Chassie - John is getting better all the time! Chassie, I went to Jamestown, too....wasn't that a nice theater? It was great meeting Theo and her daughter, especially in such a 'synchronistic' way. I wish I could have met even more of you Friends but grateful that I met two in the way I did! I am looking forward to meeting more of y'all as we get to more seminars!!!!
Diane
starlasue
04-25-2004, 02:00 PM
Thanks Toni - it was a neat experience, huh?
starlasue
04-25-2004, 02:04 PM
Wow Diane
How cool is that? There was so much energy in that room and you could feel all of the energies that were present. I mean they couldn't possibly all come though John, but how cool that they still got through. The peeing inthe bush thing sounds like something I would do.
Not a bad idea when there are ove 100 ladies vying for 1 rest room during a ten minute break. Glad John was absorbing (LOL) so's I could keep from looking for a bush myself! LOLOLOL
juju4u0913
04-25-2004, 03:30 PM
Wow...thanks for the details, StarlaSue and the others. Y'all take great notes. It sounds like a lot of validations and lots of laughter. Maybe I can attend a seminar soon!
Love & Light,
Julie
:angel3:
ATMYTV
04-25-2004, 06:47 PM
My wife and I went to the Washington, DC seminar also and enjoyed it thoroughly. As some of you old timers remember, I usually take extensive notes like the ones the posters above have taken (See my old posts on Baltimore, St. Louis, and Philadelphia) and had planned to do so on Friday. But because it was pouring rain and a lady was screaming at everyone around her where I parked after letting my wife off, I was in a hurry to get away from my car and her. About half way to the Hall I realized I had left my note pad in the car. And since I was late already, I did not go back.
I was very upset because I really enjoy taking the notes. It is easy for me, helps me relive the experience and add to it as I post them and extends the pleasure of the seminar for me immensely. I also know how much people enjoy reading every single detail of others' seminar experiences on this forum, as I do. So if you are new and wonder, do not ever think that we will be bored if you write for three or 8 pages with every little detail. We won't. I just caution you to do it in Word or something first so that after spending an hour writing it, you don't lose it all as your internet connection fouls up the sending of your message. :) Oh yes, that has happened. :(
My wife was happy that I couldn't take notes, however, because she felt that I was sharing the experience more with her. In addition, I did not interrupt her concentration by asking "What did he say?", thus making her miss what he or the person being read was saying then. There are always two sides to the story. She was happy. I was not.
So thank you so much for the detailed notes shared here. And if anyone else has more, please add them. They refresed my mind about many things that happened as if I had taken them myself. I had completely forgotten about the "nasty feet". :)
A couple of additions.
When John was asking about the ring, the woman at first said "Could it be a bracelet?" and he instantly said no. Similarly before the woman, whose brother called her "fishface", someone else there had originally put forth another possible nickname. John stepped back and waited, and then said. "Nope, that's not doing it for me." In another reading (and I apologize for the difference in quality between good notes and my foggy mind), John said something about a person and the person replied "No". John instantly said "yes you do." After a "no" and a repeated "yes you do", it was finally acknowledged. Later John said something like, that is why your mother kept telling me to say "Yes, you do".
The woman with the "Jo" connection was about three rows directly behind us and my wife talked with her and her friend afterwards, asking them if everything made sense to them. They both said absolutely, he was "dead on" and they were both crying with tears of joy and awe during the reading.
Another tiny detail I found interesting occurred after the woman acknowledged that she had just changed the curtains that had been in her house for ten years. John commented something to the effect that "You would think that the last thing that your mother would talk about, if she had a chance to talk to you from the other side, would be the curtains. But it is the perfect way that you can know and realize that this was really her and that she is still connected to your life".
This seminar seemed to have had less readings and more questions answered by John than previous ones I attended. My impression also was that there were less "Oh My God, there is no way in blazes a skeptic could question that one" moments. However, my recollections are now tempered by reading the reality of the accurate notes posted by others above.
This is the first seminar where he finished the questions section and took a meditation break as they advertise will be done. When he came back he went into questions again until the first reading began as a woman started to ask a question and John said, "Your mother has passed, Hasn't she?". I said to myself "Bingo, he is off" and then just a few minutes later he got the helcopter hit from the other side of the Hall and I knew we were into it.
I add my urgings to all the others that if you ever question whether you should spend the considerable money it costs to attend a seminar, the answer is a resounding yes. And if there is any way you can bring your skeptical spouse with you, it will, in my experience, answer all the questions your partner will have.
A seminar is very enjoyable on two levels. The first part where John talks and anwers questions is pure delight. John is engaging, personable, a great story teller and very funny. He has a wonderful self effacing sense of humor. Just this "John talks to the audience" section alone is thoroughly enjoyable.
The second section, where he does the readings is totally different - full of awe and wonder and very meaningful moments for the people being read and shared with us. After this one, our fifth, my wife asked if I would go again, and my instant answer was "Yes. Absolutely." So thank you for letting my relive it through this thread.
Bill
Hi Bill, that was a great post even without your notes. :thumbsup: Guess you were meant to leave them in the car and just enjoy the experience. :hmm:
starlasue
04-25-2004, 07:40 PM
Thanks Bill
Glad you understand about note -taking. This was our first seminar. I actually attend better when I take notes. You added some good things to what my notes had! That is very helpful.
The hardest part for me was reading my notes! LOL I mostly took them without looking at my notebook and just glanced down to get things in the correct column (I used a steno pad with John's info on the left and answers on the right.) So sometimes I had to have Phil help me decipher them. LOL
Thanks again, Bill for your notes.
Peace
starlasue
DonnaJ
04-26-2004, 07:25 AM
Starlasue...
Thank you so very much for the notes and it was such a honor to meet you :wave: I loved the seminar and enjoyed very much what you shared with me before it started....John has to be the most spiritual person I know...I think he did a wonderful show and just the validations that he was doing was enough to make any skeptic a believer....
Donna
Mojamom
04-28-2004, 08:39 AM
Hi All!
Thanks for the warm welcome!
In answer to PhilsGail - I just stumbled onto this site. I was doing a google search looking for John Edward and Seminar transcripts and ended up here! I am so glad I found you!
I am putting together a seminar transcript that I can share with my family. The reading has impacted my siblings in a way I thought not possible. My brother, a former skeptic, believes! Wow! He wasn't there, but he believes. I can sense peace in his voice now.
What a gift from JE! I am singing his praises and thanking my mom for coming through!
Hello, again, Mojamom! :wave: I just moved your wonderful story to the Testimonials Folder so it would have its own thread!
Again, congratulations!
Your reading (http://www.johnedwardtalk.org/showthread.php?t=10684)
DonnaJ
04-28-2004, 01:22 PM
Chessie
I am not sure if I can ask this question or not ...At the seminar was you setting up in the balcony by any chance ?
Donna
chassiewes
04-28-2004, 01:42 PM
Yup, that was me. Or should it be I? Whatever, I was in box 17. There were five seats in it and I was in one of two in the front of it. And scanning the folks above and below me for pink balloons. :)
DonnaJ
04-29-2004, 11:45 AM
I swear I wish I would have said something because something told me that was you !!!!! I was in box seat 16 and I kept looking over at you thinking I know that is Chassie....but I didnt say anything because I couldnt remember how to say your screen names....Isnt that dumb...
Ok there was a girl with a guy sitting next to you in box 16 (to the right of you) and I was there by myself for a while before they come...I was sitting in the box seat alone with a red shirt on and I had a pink carnation on my shirt...I had short brown curly hair ...I was leaning over the balcony looking at all the people and watching everyone....But I just know that was you....maybe we will meet again soon :wave:
starlasue
04-29-2004, 02:05 PM
Oh man, Donna, Chassie was closer to us than you were! We spotted you right off and I tried to catch you eye once or twice. Geesh! We were so close to you Chassie. Well maybe next time. I wish I could have brought my balloon in with me! I did have my carnation held up at face level pretty much until John came out. But in a sea of colors, it likely just got lost! But hey, we all knew we were all there - so we were still a community of friends!
Peace
starlasue
chassiewes
04-29-2004, 03:59 PM
Hey, I understand your hesitation. I had a bunch of pink roses in my tote bag to give to any Friend I met. Funny how we're so afraid to make idiots of ourselves. Without that dad-blasted balloon I kept looking for, I couldn't dredge up the nerve to say anything to anyone. So next time we'll concoct a more acceptable symbol. And there will be a next time. Until then.... :)
patfan
05-10-2004, 03:29 AM
Hi there,
I went to my first JE seminar in DC. What an experience! John is as adorable as ever and he didn't disappoint me. The eight hours on the road that day was certainly worth it. Of course I would have liked to have been read, but I knew it would be a long-shot. The woman that was the "joe" reading was sitting right next to me! I started taking notes for her, and when John said "the woman to your right" I had to stop and check to make sure that wasn't me. They were very moved by the whole thing. I happened to strike up a conversation with them beforehand, and they had driven all the way from FL to be there! Appearently they have a tradition of making JE roadtrips, and this was there 4th one. It would have been nice if the reading moved in my direction, but maybe next time!
PBPan
05-10-2004, 04:34 PM
Thank you to all for posting about your experiences! I finally got through reading all of them! Yay! What an incredible night!
That is so cool!
Thanks!
Megan
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