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06-04-2004, 11:44 AM
This seminar was a very comforting event.
Now I realize that statement is different from anything you usually read but that is my impression. John talked for a very long time. He even commented that 'you people' make him want to talk more than he usually does. He shared many, many stories. I made an attempt at getting them down on paper, but a couple of times I discovered myself captivated by what he was saying and not writing... :( .
Another wonderful highlight was meeting WPBEAR (Pooh) and her mother. We shared a hug but did not get a chance to visit as it was close to starting time.
John opened by saying that it has been three years since he was last in Minneapolis and it was bittersweet. He was overjoyed at the great energy everyone had but it was also the night before his comrad and pal Shelly Peck crossed. She passed June 7th, 2001. He was in the middle of reading a lady but the lady was not acknowledging his comments. He could see that at that moment there was something about a disconnect and at the same time he realized that it was not for the lady but thoughts of Shelly came to him.
They took a short break and he called Shelly's family. They told him that she was still with them but that she was in a deep coma. He finished our seminar (I was at that one also - first one for me) and then went on to the next location which was in Michigan I believe (he could not remember exactly). He did remember calling the family at 8:15 a.m. to see how Shelly was. She passed at 8:20 a.m. He said that the experience of seeing a disconnect while reading the lady in the Minneapolis seminar was a teaching experience for him. That even though she was still 'here' she had connected with him just long enough to let him know that it would not be long. He uses the disconnect feeling now as a sign.
He said he felt that even though we were a group of 3,000 that by the time the night was over that we would become an intimate group. That we would all be connected. He said that at one of the Psychic Fairs he used to participate in that there would be 20 to 30 psychics with at least 100 people and probably 18 participated. One girl was especially emotional. He asked her if she was o.k. and wanted to know how long ago it was that her mother passed. She stated that her mother was still alive but had been in a coma for years. John was amazed. It was the first time he connected with someone that was still here. He told everyone that he became a student of this field in 1985 and was still learning.
He stated that the one thing he did not want was to foster dependency. He said he noticed that in the Fairs that he would be seeing the same people over and over. It was a concern for him because they had begun to stop making their own decisions until they came to see him. He said that was not good. He finally told one woman that 'he was breaking up with her' :D . He told her that she needed to not come back for at least 3 months. The lady was really surprised but got his point. He said eventually he extended the time frame to six months and then one year. He said it was very important to understand that a psychic cannot 'fix it'. And to make darn sure that if any person that calls him/herself a psychic and tells you they can 'fit it' to let his office know. He said there are a lot of 'unlicensed drivers' out there...
And, speaking of his office...He told the story of how his office got moved from the house to another location. It is the story of Sandra and Jolie (their dog). John and Sandra just sat down to supper when the door bell rang. He opened the door to three very excited people. Big smiles on their faces and ready to go. John was confused and wondered why they were there. These people were there for their reading. John got his appointment book and saw that they were one day early. Because he had other things planned for that night he asked them to please return tomorrow for the correct appointment.
They agreed and left. John and Sandra had their supper and left the house. Each having other things to do. Sandra got home first. She could not get into the garage. The door just would not open. About 15 minutes or so later John got home to find Sandra holding Jolie and her purse standing in the middle of the livingroom. She was not a happy camper. John asked her what was wrong and in no uncertain terms she told him that 'some of YOUR people are here'. She quickly related the garage door problem and that when she tried to get into the front door that it would not open either. She said it unlocked but would not open. She pushed on it thinking that John was behind the door waiting to jump out at her. Apparently she got a little hot under the collar and eventually the door opened by itself. When she came into the house she was very uncomfortable. She insisted that John get 'those people' out of their house. It turns out that 'those people' were for the three unexpected guests that showed up on the same day. John figures that because he did not let them in for the reading that night that THEY would not let Sandra in either! :surprise: The final straw came when they had a priest over for supper and John was telling him about what happened. The priest told John that it was time to move the office that 'she' [Sandra] was not happy with the office in their house. Visualize shy smile on her face - needless to say the office was moved.
More later.... Coming up - Lots of Questions
06-04-2004, 12:01 PM
Thanks for sharing those stories, Irish. Look forward to more when you get the chance!
06-04-2004, 01:53 PM
John started out by saying that he would answer ahead of time questions that are most often asked of him.
1. Does he believe in reincarnation. Yes. But we do not reincarnate immediately. It can take hundreds of years or more. We should not worry about that because our purpose here is to make sure that this incarnation is the best one yet. That the other side has levels we aspire to. That we need to live as good a life as we can so that we will reach the next level.
2. Does he see 'them' - in his head he gets an image - usually of his own family in a situation that will relate to the person he is reading.
3. Does he hear 'them' - it is his mind's voice. He made a comment that fit me to a "T". He said the voice is not male or female. It is just a voice. I understand that one. I would liken that to a 'knowing'.
He commented that they give him impressions of what they want him to feel so he can relay that impression (feeling) to us. He explained that names do come through but usually it is 'sounds like'. And finally he said that they may not tell us what we want to hear and to be prepared for that. Things like that usually bring psychic amnesia on. :o
Does a child age? : He stated that it depends upon the person he is reading. If JE asks if they have a child 15 that has crossed and the answer is he/she would be 15. Then the answer is yes. If he asks if they have a 5 year old child that crossed and the answer is he/she was 5 when they crossed. Then the answer would be no. Point being it is what the energy knows you will recognize them as.
Can a person have two spirits in one house : This created a bit of a dilemma for John. The lady explained that there were two unrelated spirits in her house. He wanted to know if the sprits were related. She said no. He said "No?" He then said no way would he want any spirits in his house, related or not. He asked her if she was o.k. with that and she said she was. That they were not hurting anyone. He was quiet for a minute and then said that he wondered if someone in the house was causing it. He said living energy can cause something like this. But, personally? He would be saging, praying and talking those spirits right out of his house... :laff2: That statement made everyone laugh.
Man in the audience recently became a father and wanted to know if it was easier or harder for John to talk about children: John said it made it much harder because he sees Justin in the situations he needs to reference. He said sometimes his throat closes up on him because of what he sees. He needs to take a few seconds for his voice box to relax so he can talk. (That was a tough one).
Do the levels on the other side relate to Heaven and Hell That was a good question. John said that one time his guides gave him the sign of a pyramid and that each side had a different color. He could see people facing each side of the pyramid. The people looking at the green side could only see the green side. They could not see the yellow or red side. Same with the other two colors. The people looking at each individual color could not see the colors. John said that this is the reason there is war. People can only see their own color (meaning their point of view). He was told that if everyone could see each other's colors (points of view) there would be no need for war. That in the same manner whatever name you call Him, there is only one God with the same purpose and that is to love us and have us love one another. He said it is all in the intrepretation. As to levels, he said that the names of heaven and hell indicate up and down. Levels on the other side are not necessarily up and down but achievements. You achieve another level by what you accomplished during this incarnation. .
Caution The answer to this question is rather graphic. John did not want anyone to be offended but said he gives it as he gets it.
[I]In a vegatative state is the sirit or sould free to evolve or communicate. Is the soul tethered?: John said yes, until it is time to leave. He said that he was reading a family that had not left the side of their father for days at a time. They had him covered in shifts and finally there was a 10 minute period when no one was in the room and the father died. The family felt like they had let their father down and they were beside themselves with guilt. John said the following: "The father said 'dying is like taking a crap - you don't want an audience' ".
What about having to make the decision for person that is dying to leave. : John said that they go when they are ready to go. Us making the decision for them has nothing to do with it. If they are ready to go they will go. He said there are times when people get unhooked from life support and live for some time on their own. Others go as soon as they are unhooked. It is all up to the spirit and NO ONE should feel like they killed someone. He said to remember to keep an open mind. YOU did nothing to end this person's life. The sould will leave when it is time to leave.
He told the story of doing a reading with a lady in her basement when the lady suddenly began to cry and told him that she murdered her mother. He said here he was in the basement of this lady's house. His cell phone was in the car. No one was in the basement other than the two of them. She could do to him anything she wanted to do. The look on his face made all of us laugh but at the time it was not a laughing matter... He quickly got himself together and asked her what she meant by killing her mother. It was the same scenario. She had to make the decision to unhook the life support.
We spent quite a bit of time on questions. John did not pace back and forth as much as he has done in the past. He seemed to be really enjoying himself and said he could talk all night.
Next - Audience Readings
06-04-2004, 02:18 PM
Wow Irishrose! Thanks for taking the time to give us all such detailed and informative info. I feel like I was sitting in the audience just by reading your posts.
If I ever need a private secretary I sure know who to call! :D
Love and Light,
Irishrose, your notes are wonderful! I'm still trying to figure out where you got captivated and stopped writing -- must be the audience readings. :lwink:
Thanks so much. Looks like YOU are the one captivating the audience! :thumbsup:
06-04-2004, 03:24 PM
Thank you Maria - I rather like details - I am not as fast as I used to be but I did get most of what was being said. And, you are right TXJude, that is exactly where I got captivated, in the audience readings. :D
06-04-2004, 03:34 PM
Thank you Irishrose!!!
Wow!!! I was just captivated by your notes!! Thank you so much for sharing!!Looking forward to hearing more!!
06-04-2004, 03:49 PM
Irishrose that was the best review of a seminar that I've seen yet!!!
06-04-2004, 05:05 PM
This first reading was fragmented. Just like the seminar three years ago. I think since JE did not have us do a mini meditation or the fact that he did not take a break makes me wonder if the first reading allows him to get warmed up for the remainder of the readings.
JE: N name, dad
Lady: Dad was Donald (???)
JE: Mother-in-law, mother like figure that passed
Lady: no response
JE: Who is Carolyn/Karen?
JE: I am fluttering. Who is pregnant
Lady: dead silence :D
JE: what does June 9th or 19th mean for you?
JE: Who had cancer
Lady: Mother-in-law and mother
JE: who lost a son?
[KEEP THIS READING IN MIND]
At this point John said he must be moving to someone else because the first people did not lose a son.
The couple near the first reading and a lady on the other side of the same couple responded.
Lady: Son Passed, Dad Passed
JE: P name?
Lady: Patty, sister
JE: Cancer or a tumor?
JE: son, Mitchell?
JE: something oozes bad (I did not hear the answer)
JE: What is the 10th of the month or the 10th month? and
what is the somethng around the wrist?
JE: What is the casino escapade?
Lady: OMG! Yes
JE: Is there an announcement?
Lady: which time?
JE: who assisted themselvs to chips or quarters?
[The acoustics are terrible. Horrible echos and mumbles through the microphones. So bare with me. POOH, honey, if you can fill in the blanks please do so. You were much closer than I was. We were in the nose-bleed section :D John was so far away from us that we should have had opera glasses to see him up on that stage. Well, o.k., they did have the big screens up on either side of the stage ;) ].
As a result I missed the answer for the chips/quarters - (ugh!)
JE: who was Ann or the A-N name?
Lady: Roxanne is the person I gambled with
JE: something was copped at the casino
JE: who is Buzzy, Bussy, Besie, Bessie?
JE: not it
JE: Buzz, Buzzy
[o.k. think about the couple on the other side of the first reading]
Man: son, Bugs
Man/Lady: mother died of cirrhosis
JE: G or J name, Jim, Gene, James
JE: Dad's side
JE: Missouri or M city
Man: can't think
JE get's stuck here
Lady: daughter's husband past, named James
JE just smiles - 'nuf said
JE: birthday today or tomorrow
JE: out of state connection
Nothing - he is switching. If you are standing on the state looking at the audience, John is reading people on the left side of the middle section. Now he is going to the far right, middle section of that section.
JE: I have a grandmother that has an alter to St. Anthony by the name of Rose. He explains that St. Anthony is cradling a baby and he holds his arm up to his chest like he would be holding a child.
JE: the statue is inherited and husband's aunt is shot, impact?
JE: the statue lived in two separate places
JE: R name, they have a child there and something happened to the head
Lady: many years ago she lost a child, Robert
JE: Mom passed, showing him Pink, Red and White roses. Pink is love, Red is anniversary and white is birthday.
Lady: deaths happened on birthdays
Let me see if I can wind this up. The first reading, Donald, brought through Mitchell to get to Bugs so that Robert could come through. Amazing, absolutely amazing. Everyone applauded. :thumbsup:
JE: Someone has a problem around their leg
JE: was Mom able to walk
JE: What does March or the 3rd mean to you?
Lady: can't think of anything.
Lady: Are you sure you're with us?
JE: AM I STANDNG HERE???
[I thought, oh boy, here we go - but it worked out o.k. ;) ]
Lady: Leg think back to me. It might be my husband's aunt.
JE: did she have her legs up
JE: Drinking problem on Mom's side. Dad's dad known for drinking. He has a uniform
Lady: Husband's father. Mom is still around.
JE: Do you still have ties to the family? Catholic background? Did you have a special church that you attended.
JE: please tell mom that they are all o.k.
One more reading on the stage right side of the room.
JE: Two people died in a car accident. November or the 11th. Two people passed, not related. There is a Bobby connection.
Lady: unrelated to her
JE: Dad passed, chest problems. He wants to tease you about your sewing.
Lady: I tried to make clothes
JE: for him?
JE: yep, he is teasing you [we all got a good laugh out of that]
JE: kids with eye problem, glass eye
Lady: friend lost an eye with a BB gun accident
JE: Carol, Carrie
JE: Mom's mom is the protector
Lady: she passed when the lady was 10 years old
JE: Dad is bringing it up. He has the dog there. Military. Something of honor. Something of service
Lady: brother has medals
Lady: brother loves fishing.
JE: Dad is excited about what daughter does for a diabetic person. Taught someone how to do it.
Lady: She helped her dad learn how to do the injections.
JE: He thanks you for it.
JE: Dad said you look at your patients like they are your father.
Lady: Yes, she said she tries to treat everyone like they are her relatives.
TO BE CONTINUED...... Back stage left section (this one is a me too for me)
You're doing a really great job of reporting, Ellen. Makes people feel like they were there. :)
06-04-2004, 07:43 PM
Thank you so much IrishRose,
I felt like I was there at the seminar, you have made my day! :jumper:
06-04-2004, 07:47 PM
Thank you all for your sweet comments. I am surely hoping that Pooh can contribute to my weak spots. I know that I am leaving out some things. I will continue with what is left of the readings and how John wrapped up the evening. An interesting thing happened. I am sorry for some of the typos. I did not get all of them...
Cowboy - I will comment on one thing John said about Australia. He said he did not leave the seminars feeling like he was concerned that not everyone got the message of the process like he does sometimes here in the U.S. He was so moved by the fact that the understanding is very nearly a way of life in Australia. He commented that it may be because the country is so far removed from the rest of the world that they come together as one unit and seem to understand how the process of life and life after death is one unit - just another phase. I am having to do this comment from memory as I did not write it down so I hope that it is correct.
06-04-2004, 08:07 PM
WOW! this was fabulous reading, Irish! Thank you so much... kudos to your note taking. I was never able to take notes, cuz then I was missing so much! I tried it once, and it just was awful. :o
06-04-2004, 09:22 PM
In the way back section of stage left
John starts off by talking about a second dad and a grandmother, Ruth. And, they are showing him Elmo (the little red figure). There is an uncle figure - that crossed over from a hanging and the 13th of the month means something.
Man: The 13th is his birthday, but he has no Elmo connection
Lady (next to man): Her baby loves Elmo but she is not blood related to the grandmother Ruth. Her brother passed.
Man: his dad passed
JE: brain tumor/hemorrhage. Dad has a person to his side with the name Tim.
Man: Dad's best friend was Tim.
So now others believe they have a connection to this reading but they are not sure. Everyone was respectful of the others - not wanting to steal someone's reading.
JE: Liz, Jodie, a plane crash in Alaska, a father figure, father difficult, stomach problems, colin problems
Man: Dad's dad had gangrene
JE decides that the Elmo thing is the father's way of saying he sees the child.
That reading was a little 'iffy' to me. John did pace a little on this one.
More audience questions
There was a little dialogue between John and a lady right behind me about the way people die. Another lady further up front asked about someone intervening so that someone does not die and wondered if that changed history or their karma.
John explained that the soul chooses when it is going to leave. We get hung up on the events. The body can and does go through some discomfort but the soul is not 'hurt'. If someone intervenes in a person's life and keeps them from dying then in fact, that person was not meant to go. The soul would not leave. He began to chuckle. He said he HAD to tell us this story.
Shelly Peck had BIG TIME mother-in-law problems. She called John one night and asked him what he saw. She said that there was an opportunity for her mother-in-law to come live with them. She tells John that no way was this going to happen if it was going to be a long time commitment. So, o.k. what did John see. He says he sees her birthday and 93. This takes place in December of 92. Shelly was quiet for a little while and then says, "well, o.k. I can live with that." And live with it she did, for a long time. Shelly is on John's back wanting to know what is going on. He shrugs and says so o.k. I am off. It turns out he was not off at all. She died just a little past her birthday when she was 93! It is all in the intrepretation ;) So, yes, the soul leaves when it is ready to go...
JE answered a question from a man on the far right side about Crossing Over. He explained that Crossing Over ended 2003 but would air until June 2004. He said that the 4 years he had the show was wonderful. But just like high school it was time to graduate. He said he was a senior now and it was time to move on. He said that if an opportunity presented itself again and it was the correct one, he would do it again. He thanked the man for his kind remarks and how much he appreciated what he had said. The man's question to John actually was could John please talk to someone to see about having the show air at an earlier time frame (1 a.m. is a little late!). That is when JE talked about being a senior.
Did JE have feelings prior to 9/11? He was moody, and would cry easily and had a heavy feeling but did not know why. Sandra wanted him to go see someone to help him get over the feeling. He began to believe that maybe it was because of the show that maybe he was depressed and couldn't handle the pressure of the show. He said that he was so clueless as to what was going to happen (other than being depressed) that he bought a plane ticket for Sandra to come to L.A. so they could go see Michael Jackson. She wanted to go to L.A. with him when he was on the Larry King Show but he said no, to wait until the next day when he could get a good night's sleep and be fresh and ready to go. She agreed. Sandra was on the next scheduled plane. The plane after the second plane hit the tower.
When he would get the 'doom and gloom' feelings he could always call Shelly and pass it by her. "How's it going?" he would say to her. If she had the same feeling then he knew it was NOT just him. But he couldn't do that now and it made things worse. He did not have anyone to bounce things off of anymore. He did not want to go to L.A. at all. He tried everything he could think of not to go. He wanted to do a live satellite, but no. It was not to be. He had to go. Two weeks before that he and Sandra had one of the worst fights they had ever had. She had scheduled a brunch at Windows of the World and John flat out refused to attend. He did not care what she said. He WAS NOT going - period. He could not get near that building but did not put two and two together at that time.
He was amazed at Larry King that night. He said Larry asked tons of questions. They were preparatory questions, educational questions. He even told Larry during a break that he had no idea how much he had helped people.
[Any of you remember that evening? You could even see that John was taken with the questions Larry was asking. Larry was not interrupting any of JE's readings like he sometimes does. He was listening and then asking John questions afterwards.]
John said that he even commented to Larry's wife that he was amazed at how much Larry had helped people that night. He said that when he left the studio the doom and gloom lifted. He was truly exhausted. He went back to the hotel and said he 'passed out' he was so tired. About 3 a.m. the front desk called him and wanted to know if he was o.k. He said I am sleeping. I am just fine. But then he remembered that on a few other occassions he had a few threats to be truly concerned about so he told the front desk that he would put the phone down and take a look. He looked around the room and even opened the door and looked down the hall (can you imagine doing that :eek: having been threatened - not me...) but said everything was just fine and wondered why they called him. They said that he had made a 911 call and it came to the front desk. There was quite a conversation about how he may have done that half asleep and maybe half awake. He said he assured them that he was just fine and went back to sleep.
He was awakened again a few hours later by one of the show's producers and told to turn on the TV. The producer was stuck on a bridge and was watching something happen to one of the towers. John turned on the tv just in time to watch the second plane strike. So no, he did not know of the event, but he did recognize the fact that something was up.
At this point John read the lady that asked the question.
JE: Do you have a Joe or Josephine
Lady: cousin, passed
JE: Your mother-in-law, shall we say, was misunderstood?
Lady: welllll, yes (great laughs of total understanding...)
JE: son on second marriage, son same name as Father
[BTW - father's name is FRED]
JE: husband has MS, L name
Lady: sister-in-law Lee
JE: MS took a turn for the worse
JE: child that passed
Lady: Mother's brother passed - had a disability
JE: Paul or P connection, unmarried
JE: husband has arm problems
Lady: heart problems found through arm pain
JE: moral of husband is bad. He is not helping you help him
JE: tell him Mom said for him to start helping you
[I]Man volunteered information
Directly behind and to the right of the lady JE just finished reading a man stood and said the following: Recently my wife's sister passed and we need to know if she is o.k.
JE looked at the audience and said o.k. what do we say - a few said ooooo bad but not everyone because not everyone heard what was said and the mumbling microphones were making all us nuts. JE told that man to NEVER tell a medium or psychic anything that will give them info. Make sure that all you ever do is answer yes or no. John did not read that man.
JE: two babies passed, one miscarried, one still-born. Both babies are on the other side. What does the 9th month mean? Dad passed, rocking both babies.
Lady: she had two children that passed in the manner JE mentioned
JE: [something about a car - I missed it]
JE: Dad apologized for scaring you.
JE: mom still here? Red rose in July, July 11th to the 20th?
Lady: sister's wedding
JE: do you have 3 daughters?
JE: Dad did not see one child
JE: there is a parallel between father and son - jack of all trades......you fill in the rest (laughter)
Lady: you mean 'master of none'
Lady: dad had alheimer's, not clear in mind towards the end
JE: engagement ring lost
JE: 27 or 28 months ago and something about a bladder infection. Then he said drink plenty of cranberry juice - like it was coming from that lady's father. Then he said in the same breath - just kidding.... :laff2:
Lady: laughing - yes and o.k.
JE: was the grandmother sarcastic?
JE: laughing again. I am seeing my grandmother who could be very sarcastic. She would say things like all of my children did so well with their spouses but the last three :surprise:
Lady: laughing, yes!
JE: grandmother says seven kids
Lady: no, six.
JE: no seven. She lost one. Then he said your dad said that you really want to talk to your mother - right?
Lady: right, laughing again
JE: family south?
Lady: brother in Texas
JE: seeing twins, twin connection or Gemini
JE: mother had congestive heart failure, she looked stressful, but she was just laboring. She thanks you for the prayers. There is something about someone being all in her face. He took his hand and circled his face.
Lady: laughing, yes, the breath is from her - she smokes...
JE: someone snuck something into the hospital
JE: is he furry?
Lady: I have a tiger tatoo
JE: really, really big stretch - no
JE: I see the hospital, I see the bed, I see the ET finger, something on the bed is furry.
JE: was she a whiskey woman?
JE: yeah, she says the first thing she did when she got on the other side was get a shot (the place went up in laughter and applauded for her mother. It was great)
JE: Jerry or George
Lady: Jerry, brother
JE: 10th anniversary or 10th event
Lady: grandson's birthday, people will be coming together.
JE: Mother has a sister?
JE: she was not pleasant was she
JE: she is no longer the 'b' when she was here
Lady: mother used to call her sister 'beak nose'
JE: there is a hair issue, shaved head
Lady: her grandson
JE: there is a gambling reference - card of some kind. Also skin cancer
Lady: brother had skin cancer
In the back right of the room a lady hollered out, back here John please
06-04-2004, 09:37 PM
Say, Irish.... Uh, didja watch too many cliffhangers??? Not fair!!! This is a great story that I don't want to put down til the end!!!! Hurry up & type! :laff2:
06-04-2004, 09:41 PM
Sorry that post got so long - I kinda lost track of myself for a minute [I was still there :D ]
For those of you that have never seen John live, he gets so wound up in the reading of the moment that I believe he truly forgets others are around him until the spirits pull away from him. When that lady hollered out to him - she had a loud, deep voice - it startled him back into reality. You could have heard a pin drop - no kidding. There was not a sound anywhere. Even the man manning the camera froze. John turned in the direction of the voice but did not acknowledge her at that time. He finished the lady he was reading by saying that the mother was pulling back. He thanked the lady and everyone applauded.
Carol mentioned that time was up - oh, no, not already - but it was true. And just at that moment the lady again called out to John.
Can you help me?
John walked over to stage right and said in a very caring voice. Mediumship is not the cure for grief. I cannot give you what you need until it is time. Tonight is not time. You truly need to understand how this process works. The lady did not say another word. She seemed to understand what John was saying. I wanted to hug her. She was truly hurting.
John again thanked the man for making the comments he did about Crossing Over but we should understand that he needs to move on. He thanked all of us for coming and that he loved being here.
It was a wonderful night. I left feeling comforted. I was rested and satisfied. I, personally, do not need John. I love watching him work. He brings a great deal of comfort to those he reads and a great deal of comfort to those he does not read. But because they are there, they get a message anyway.
It was my husband's first time seeing John live. He got what John was saying and he was sorry that the accoustics were so bad. He would have liked to have heard more. That made my day :love:
When we left the convention center both of us noticed what a beautiful night it was. Nearly 10 p.m. and still 53 degrees with no humidity. We walked hand in hand as we crossed the street to get to the car in the parking building. We found it on the first try :D . Drove through all the construction in Minnesota and Wisconsin and as we got more into the countryside we could see the stars were out and all at once I saw the orange, full moon. It was huge and beautiful. We watched it turn from orange to white and then stopped to have a cup of coffee before finishing our trip home. It was a perfect ending to a perfect night. My sweetie told me he would have me home before I turned into a pumpkin. We got home at 11:58 p.m. ;)
Good night all,
06-04-2004, 10:36 PM
Thank you Irishrose!
SWEET DREAMS :love:
Thank you Ellen, that report was incredible!! :thumbsup: :jumper:
06-05-2004, 08:10 AM
Thas was absolutely fantastic! I see a future as a reporter for you. :thumbsup:
06-05-2004, 09:11 AM
Thank you all for your comments. I am happy to have given you a chance to experience another seminar.
I was struck by how quiet this group of 3,000 was. I find it truly odd. The respect for each other was amazing. John even mentioned that the entire right side of the room was very quiet. The only disturbance was the lady that needed John to help her. That was so sad. But, not unlike anything else that happens around us. She was there for a reason. John stepped up to the situation beautifully - but this is not a surprise either. He remained calm and did not look like he was heading for the safety of the wings. He understood what she needed.
It was a great night.
06-05-2004, 01:59 PM
Thanks again Ellen - great job!
06-05-2004, 05:56 PM
:thumbsup: ABSOLUTELY AWESOME! Thank you for the details.
06-05-2004, 11:24 PM
Irish this was my 3rd seminar I went to , and I must admit I was disappointed. :(
Now don't get mad or anything. But first off the seating was all one level, the sound was terrible, it was like an echo. There were about 50 of us, that were told when we bought our ticket that we wouldn't be able to get pick up our tickets till 1 hr before the show opened. Then the doors opened at 5:30. Before we could get any type of good seats they were all filled up.
I was sitting 3 seats behind the lady that kept saying "Over here John!" She landed up standing up and screaming "He's a phony! He's a fake!" to those of us in the back and then walked out. Her friend tried to ask the question for the lady and her mom. This lady had been trying to ask a question the whole night, She was told she would be the 3rd person her would answer.
I am not sure where you were sitting, but many in the back did get up and leave when we found the sound was terrible. My niece who is a skeptic is 1/2 convinced only cuz she almost became a relative stealer.
Anyway will talk more later.
06-06-2004, 12:39 PM
Awww, Susanna. I am so sorry that the experience left you with a bad taste that way.
Yes, there was bad acoustics. I mentioned early on that I know I did not get everything. I did not realize that the lady made additional statements. I assumed it was the same person that finally got John's attention. However, I will say that I did see someone walking toward the back of the room. Perhaps it was her leaving. I am not sure.
I was sitting in the middle back half section. Were you there when her question was answered? It was about disconnecting a loved one. John answered that and then she asked something else that I did not get. John answered her and then moved on to the lady that talked about intervening in someone's life that would keep them alive - in other words, the soul was not ready to leave so it was o.k. to intervene.
You know, though, that it makes no difference where you sit. John will find you if it is time...
Jump in any time. I would be very happy to have corrections or additions to help others understand how the evening went.
06-06-2004, 03:50 PM
((((Ellen)))) Thank you soooo much! I feel like I was there. :thumbsup:
That poor lady. :( I feel for her, but the whole incident really demonstrates exactly what he talked about earlier in the evening, and what he keeps bringing up at recent seminars. I hope she does keep going to seminar after seminar (sorry John :o ) because eventually, even if she's never read, she'll probably gain a better understanding and hopefully ease her pain.
06-07-2004, 05:01 AM
Thanks IrishRose for sharing what John felt about the Australian seminars.
I have been priveldged enough to see him both times he's been out.
The first time everyone was so excited to see him, all eleven thousand of us just cheered and yelled.!!!!
The second time was so different, everyone was still excited, but it was like and we all shared as one. It didn't matter who was read. It did really feel like we did understand. There was so much comfort and compassion in the air, it was beautiful. I took my 13 year old, and she just loved it.
06-07-2004, 09:46 AM
Cowboy, you are so welcome and you are so right.
I think the beauty of watching John is that he truly gives people comfort and hope and joy all at the same time.
Friday's Crossing Over had a question asked of John in the end segment. The man asked John how he got to where he is now. Questions like that always throw him because he really can't answer the question in a few words.
All he would say was that when you have a passion for what you do and love your work it all comes together without any effort on his part.
If you have read any of John's books you will be able to see that what he says is true. He made an attempt a couple of times to 'put his own spin' on things but he soon learned that he needed to pay attention to what his guides told him and it would all work out just fine.
Here's to a joyous journey
06-12-2004, 12:52 PM
Hi Irish and all,:wave:
I was there with Irishrose, and my mom, and yes a big thrill for me was meeting and hugging Ellen in person!! I do feel so connected to her from this site and "our take on things." (I think you know what I mean, Ellen.)
It is always great seeing John live. We were on the left side facing the stage (he called it the 900-psychic side for some strange reason) five rows from the front; and the other side to my right was called the "crossing over side." He kept refering to these pet names when he would catch himself on the big screens.
My mom had some troubles hearing what the people being read said, but John came in loud and clear for the most part. (Except when there was loud laughter, which as we know happens quite a bit when John tells his stories.)
The "heaviness of the room" = number of spirits present, was obvious to me and I know "they" as energy can goof up sound systems, John's microphones, etc.
In retrospect, I too realize the crowd was a quiet sort (although a few folks behind me kept whispering to each other.)
I felt like the whole seminar had the theme of a "teacher - teaching us." His fantastic stories, his answers to questions, and even the readings all had some sort of lesson to learn, in my humble opinion.
My 90-year-old mom was so excited and loved every minute of it. :jumper: She was totally exhausted when we got home, but she is doing great. We had planned to go over my notes sooner, but hopefully tonight.
For Irishrose and all JE friends anxiously awaiting more, I will check through my miriad of notes and try to add or comment within the next few days.
My school (I'm a teacher) just got out Tuesday 6/8 and I've been cleaning up my classroom for two days, then had a dentist appt. on Friday which turned into oral surgery (I had the tooth pulled.) So as I recuperate, I will compare notes with Ellen and get back to you. Please me patient with me.
Love, light and peace,
06-15-2004, 01:00 AM
Irishrose your report of the Minneapolis seminar was so great that I have only a few minor things to add.
I think it was during the first set of stories, that John told a brief version of how he met “Mikie” and that his son is named after Mikie....Justin Michael. For those of you not familiar with Mikie, he is mentioned in detail in John’s Crossing Over book.
When John was talking about the general questions he always gets, he mentioned how he “works for the spirits” and not for us (the audience.) The radio station he hears in his head he called: WDED. That the feelings he gets are 100% accurate from them, but that it is his misinterpretation that may be off.
When John was talking about young children and babies coming through, he mentioned that many times an older person will bring them though, because the young person does not have much life experience to draw on.
Another audience question was, How do deaf people come through? John responded by saying through energy and interpretation of that energy.
Audience Readings: [It is difficult to give input here, but I will try my best]
Reading #1: The DN / Donald name
JE said: older figure/August and connected to mom, also
When JE said; Pat Lady said: my brother’s middle name
then a cousin, Patty.
The lady stongly said no one was pregnant
( a lot of laughter over this statement.)
and that Karen was her mom’s name.
THIS READING SWITCHED TO ANOTHER FAMILY IN AREA, with similar names, dates, etc. (Reading #2)
She had a sister, Patty, who passed
a son who passed, named Mitchell (lady gave name)
and the “thing about the wrist” was a bracelet she wore with his (Mitchell’s) name on it.
Reading #3: I will write my version of the Altar of St. Anthony reading, because I have a few different notes on it.
JE: Altar to St. Anthony Lady: inherited staue of St. Athony from
(back section of room) husband’s aunt.
JE: is someone shot Aunt’s husband was shot but not
killed during the war.
JE: who is Rose? keep thinking.
JE: did statue live in 2 different rooms
or two separate places in your house? LADY:moved it from dresser to bed
JE: R name like Roseanne
Impact to body connected to R name
younger than the spirit acknowledging them
Child is there/someone lost a child
neck or head
bar connection LADY:
Rose or Robert Finally, cousin’s husband Robert
has Robert passed yes
JE: Your mom is sending you a pink rose,
white rose, and a red rose Lady: the death’s happened on
for love, birthday, and an anniversary) birthdays.
Reading #4: Quickly moves into another reading: (After re-reading this one,
mom and I think it was our me-too or we are relative stealers?)
JE: grandmother with leg problem
it does not affect her there. LADY had difficulty coming up with aunt
who had hip surgery.
Reading #5: 2 in vehicle accident(not related)--same as my notes
Reading #6: HERE I have a little different one than yours (see if it fits.)
JE: brother spent time in a boat
excited about what you do
are you a Nurse? LADY: yes a nurse
JE: someone taught you how to do something LADY: my dad
Thanking you for the way you do your job, yes, definitely
not just clinical, but administration role, too.
JE: Deaf or played deaf LADY: had selective hearing
spitting watermelon seeds? yes, though my nose
did he teach you that? no
JE: He’s not FRED is he? LADY: yes
JE: is he a nudist? no, caught dad running to
bathroom in the nude
JE: Georgia Peach connection LADY: no
JE: remember this.
JE: Ruth, Rudy Man: next door neighbor hung himself
crossed themselves over in the garage.
Uncle hung himself in garage, not dad MAN: next to her grandmother
has mom passed name Ruth
JE: 13th of month his B’day
Elmo connection, not blood related
male to side has passed MAN: brother passed
Dad passed yes, dad passed
Brain tumor her brother
Thomas, Tony ,Ti, plane crash dad’s good friend Timmy
(MOVING TO ANOTHER FAMILY/possibly more than one “group” answering below)Reading #8
GIRL: roomate has friend who is a pilot
JE: Do you NANNY? Jody does?
JE: Did he pass in an event Dad was small plane pilot
Friend passed in plane crash
Father figure around you that passed Yes
stomach area/Colon cancer Uncles with problems.
Dad had gangreen in
JE: Someone is travelling soon,
Have a good trip.
[Above was a confusing reading, as Irish says, too.]
I think the rest were close to what I had. I hope this helps anyone who was there and needed more information.
06-15-2004, 11:17 AM
You did a great job filling in the blanks for some of the areas where I got so involved in the reading, especially #3 where the someone lost a child due to a head injury. That is how our little nephew was killed. I could also identify with the "Ruth". Many things fit for us. So I had my hand up and was trying to write at the same time because that group was just across the isle from us. But finally they were the ones that it was meant for so I picked up writing and got lost....
That was a great night. I had forgotten about the WDED :D
It was hard to hear in the back sometimes because of the echo and mumbling through the mics.
Thanks again Wyn. It was so good to meet you.
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