RSLancastr
09-10-2001, 01:50 PM
All:
In a thread elsewhere on this board, there was mention of an episode of CO where JE did a reading in which (if I interpreted the thread correcty) the message from the other side wasn't very nice.
Even if I totally misread that thread, it reminded me of a question I've meant to ask here:
Why are all (or almost all) of the messages JE relays "nice" messages, such as:
- Your father approves of you.
- Your wife forgives you.
- Your uncle is at peace.
- Your lost ring is under the dishwasher.
Why is it never (or at least rarely) an unpleasant message, such as:
- Your dad says you're a bum.
- Your wife says you beat her.
- Your uncle hates it "over there".
- Hey, you didn't lose that ring, you hocked it!
...you get the idea.
Some critics of JE say that this is further "evidence" that he is not what he claims. I personally don't see the logic in that, but I understand the sentiment of it.
So, why are the messages JE relays almost always pleasant ones? Has he ever explained this, perhaps in one of his books?
I'd be interested in your thoughts on this.
Bob L.
The answer is a spiritual one. Even if you don't believe in that term, I would ask that you suspend your disbelief, long enough to have an empathethic understanding of those of us who do.
It involves the belief that the reason we are here in the physical world, is to learn lessons. Lessons about being human, and about burning away the parts of us that aren't nice to each other or to ourselves. Greed, lust, anger, inability to forgive, jealousy, inability to love oneself - all that and more.
The belief is, once we're on the other side, we have a "larger perspective" of reality, and that this physical world is just one tiny, very short-lived part of that reality.
Part of being an emotionally intelligent, evolved human being, is being able to rise above all those traits I mentioned above. Not only in yourself - but in other people. If you're an emotionally evolved being, you tend to pick your battles more carefully.
The same is said to be true on the other side - that because you have a larger view of the world, you don't lash back at the husband who beat you, rather, you forgive him because you can now see all the elements of his life that contributed to his behavior in the first place.
There is also a belief that we make contracts with each other, before incarnating (a before-life, as well as an after-life) to help each other learn those lessons while here, and sometimes you can't learn a lesson without causing pain, or being the recipient of it.
While we're here, this physical life is all we can see, so the pain looms larger than the physical world itself. Once we pass, we see the bigger picture, the larger goal of growth, and that pain is looked upon as a necessary excersize in growth of the soul.
John used a good analogy in his book, about a parent looking upon a child with a cherished doll. The doll breaks, and the child is beside herself in pain. At that moment, all the child knows is her world has come crashing down, and she does not see that her grief will ever end. But we as the parent, while having compassion for the pain, and attempting to comfort the child, know that the broken doll is actually of little consequence to the child's entire life.
We are the children fussing with our dolls, and making the little details of life much more important than they need be. Those on the other side, are like the loving parents, comforting us about our dolls, but knowing the bigger picture. They also know our weaknesses, but won't harp on them, because they know we have to learn it for ourselves.
RSLancastr
09-10-2001, 03:49 PM
Thanks, Pam.
That was pretty much what I expected the answer to be (either that, or that JE felt it was best to not pass along the negative comments).
But then my next question would be: if I was correct in interpreting that other thread, what about the not-so-nice messages JE was getting from someone?
Sorry I can't be specific with details, I didn't see the show...
-Bob
You're welcome, glad I was clear enough (sometimes I wonder about me, LOL)
I think I remember the reading, and it wasn't that he was "bad", it was that he was a "ball buster" or a "chops buster"...he was being playful. You can either get annoyed or you can laugh along with the perp at yourself :)
"Negative" information is subjective, but I've seen John deliver warnings about health...or people admitting they were BAD while on "This Side". Sometimes what is perceived as "bad" is given to further identify the person coming through.
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