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11-06-2004, 03:10 AM
I am home now and working on the notes
But I'll give you the short short version for now as it was by far one of the most amazing nights so far of my life.
Partly because John called on me to answer the one question that has been heeing and gnawing at the back of my mind for a very long time.
It is surreal and I am still reeling.
My question: what inspired him to have blue roses reperesent love in his book? Answer: he coordinated with Natasha and they decided to alter some of the symbols and he definitely thinks my family may have had a hand in that bit of the creative piece.
there is so waaay more to post and I had lots of blue rose valdiations before the seminar which was cool.
It was awesome to meet Phigalilly and JBannister, it was an AWE-some seminar.
But there is way more to tell and I'm sorry to cut myself off but if I am ever going to get it out of the note book, I have to type them up, so they'll be up here soon. I'll at least get part one out...
God bless!!! :musicnote
11-06-2004, 03:51 AM
San Francisco John Edward Seminar 11-05-04
I picked up my mother in law, Cathi, and we headed down the freeway to San Francisco. We arrived promptly at 3:30 pm and parked the car at the Nob Hill Masonic Auditorium parking garage.
We had lots of time to kill so we walked down to china town. As we pass by the windows of some of the most amazing shops, there is a jewelry store and on the box, a pink rose, a white rose, and yup, a blue rose. I smiled and thought a thank you to the other side.
We went in to a few shops and then we passed by a church that had a gift shop, I got a tug that I couldn’t ignore. I went straight into the shop trying to appear as casual as possible and within moments I found out why I was in there. I kept hearing in my head, find the blue rose rosary, find the blue rose rosary, I was blown away when I found it, because of its significance to me, I purchased them.
Then we meandered through a few other shops and hiked back up the steep hill to the seminar. It was still early so we went over to the huge cathedral across the street and I said a prayer and then we hung out in the lobby waiting to meet Phigalilly(Sandra) and JBannister (Julie). We did meet some really cool people from Sacramento who had a reading at the seminar two years ago and so we swapped some great stories. I did share with them about this site, so hopefully they’ll sign up :wave:
When Cathi and I did finally meet Sandra and Julie, it was awesome, and I did get a picture that I’ll have to get developed so I can find a way of posting it. It was so awesome and wonderful to meet both of you! Sandra and I will be planning a get together for those going to the seminar in January. Contact us through our profiles if you are going :jumper:
Before Cathi and I go in and as we are wrapping up our conversation with Julie and Sandra, I notice a woman in front of us wearing a black sweater on and all over it are roses, right in the middle of her back a blue rose.
11-06-2004, 03:52 AM
Now I must back track for here for just a minute, as I did have a dream just before Amy went to the seminar this year in NJ about John. The dream occurred on the morning of October 9, and in the dream John was wearing a black button down shirt with a collar with some sort of lined pattern woven into the fabric, black jeans and shoes, and he was wearing his glasses. In the dream I walk in the room and there are only a few people in there, and John is handing out fliers. The seminar hasn’t started yet and he is doing a question and answer session, I stand up and ask him the question that has been nagging me for months… and John calls on me to ask my question….
11-06-2004, 04:03 AM
After hanging out and having an awesome conversation with Phigalilly and JBannister, we went inside. At the entrance Cathi and I were handed a piece of paper announcing the seminars in San Francisco and Culver City, and about John’s new prayer book that is due to come out in January of 2005, I thought okay… that’s odd, my dream…
We find our seats and I’m amazed that the sections that the side sections that weren’t sold last time are filled to capacity this time. I am wowed beyond belief when I see that our seats are in row E. wow.
Before the seminar started I did my own little meditation and prayer for hoping the information would come through and people would be able to validate what was coming through and John would be able to interpret it.
They are showing Crossing Over on TV and Cathi and I are just having a great time.
Finally at 7:14 pm, TJ, someone on John’s crew walks out and quickly announces John, and John walks out wearing a black button down shirt with a collar with some sort of lined pattern woven into the fabric, black jeans and black shoes, and he was wearing his glasses. I nearly flipped out as I’ve never had a dream come true this accurately before but there was still the final piece, would it happen? I wasn't going to even go there.
He greets the audience and says how thrilled he is to be back in San Francisco as this is one of his favorite places to come for seminars. He plugs the page we had all been handed and that TJ will be coming out at the end of the seminar to share a slight surprise.
He was really funny as he mentioned he knew some of the guys were in the house for fear of never having sex again, which of course made the audience roar with laughter.
Then he said he was going to just jump right into readings…
11-06-2004, 04:29 AM
Mom was coming through with a connection to c or k name like Katherine as he pointed to a section. He pointed directly to a woman who acknowledged that mom had passed and her name was Kathey. There was an issue with congesitve heart failure or the filling up with fluids.
There was also a connection to an Anna or an Ann which she validated.
She passed the mic and acknowledged other family members (apparently most of the entire family was there spread through out the gallery)
John also acknowledged a move.
Kathey acknowledged that it was her daughter.
John went on to say that mom and dad wish her well and congratulations on the grandparent issue.
She acknowledged that there were 7 grandchildren.
John asked if one was on the way
Kathey said that there were three kids for her, to which John replied, well one is one the way.
John also brought up an issue with one of the grandchildren having a problem with the eye, a duct issue perhaps?
He also brought up an issue with a second marriage that stumped her for a moment as she had been happily married for awhile.
John was like come on work with me, people can steal relatives really fast, but I know I'm with you.
An acknowledgement to a Chris was also coming through. So the mic was passed down to a husband of one of her relatives, a son in law (I'm not sure how they were all related, they weren't using the mic so I missed that part) but he didn't acknowledge anything until his wife grabbed the microphone and started validating information.
John kept saying he was seeing interlocking wedding bands which were his symbol for a remarriage, a renewal of vows.
The couple didn't really acknowledge it but John left it as there might be a renewal of vows coming up.
John then was bringing through a name of a Louis and another family member Luis grabbed the mic and said his name was Luis.
Another mother figure was coming through
Luis responded that his father passed.
John not missing a beat said, well was he wearing a dress? Which of course the audience erupted in another bout of laughter.
Luis then shared that his father died of cancer.
John was like, come on work with me here, gotta mother firgure coming through
Luis responded that he was from another state
(clearly some non communciation going on here)
John asks if he has family here? Luis responds no (apparently there were some audio difficulties to the side sections as they had a harder time hearing John).
John asks to talk to his wife who takes the mic, then 3000 people applauded as she took the mic (it was very very funny)
She validates the information that it is a Great Aunt, mom to Kathey.
John continues and says another person passes from cancer (but never elaborated further) as a dog came through to him, a black terrier. (John was seeing the Bush’s dog – when the family didn’t acknowledge it right away John made a joke that maybe there was something up with the dog at the White House…) Then there was that pesky second marriage issue that came back up
John then blurted out Fred
As he's reading Luis wife he points directly behind him and says this sometimes happens but is there more of your family here?
The balcony above Luis errupts in a loud YES!!
John responds, wow, amazingly they are able to throw their voices across the room. No I am over there and points behind him.
More to follow soon… must sleep now…
11-06-2004, 07:09 AM
Thanks Megan! :thumbsup: Great job ... eagerly awaiting more ...:D
Excellent! I hope you're getting some sleep now before the next installment! :D
11-06-2004, 08:14 AM
Hi Friends...I'm new...I'm on Cloud Nine because tomorrow I'm driving to the Atlanta seminar. For me, this feels almost like a "once in a lifetime" opportunity.
I'm still learning how to navigate this site. The "Blue Roses" jumped out at me. Why? Years ago, I played Laura in the play The Glass Menagerie by Tennessee Williams. In the play, the Laura says "pleurosis" and the gentleman caller mis-hears it as "Blue Roses." Just an interesting little reference if you want to follow up on it...Re the seminar, is there a protocol I should know about? Thanks...
Hi, Carolee! :wave:
You might be interested in this thread Frequently Asked Questions about Seminars (http://www.johnedwardtalk.org/showthread.php?t=1030&page=1&pp=20)
Have a wonderful time! Looking forward to hearing about it when you return. :)
11-06-2004, 11:02 AM
It was a FANTASTIC night! Julie and I met Megan and her mother in law, hi Megan :wave: , I spoke briefly with ml9652 (Leanna) on the phone, but it was right as everyone was going in to sit and we didn't find each other. I missed Mindi all together. :(
I have an all day class today and tomorrow so I'll have to come back and add whatever I can, if I can anything at all, to Megan's excellent reporting job!
I will say this before I go - even though I should be on the road right now and I'm sitting here on the computer with wet hair instead, and I'm stopping for coffee, no matter how late I am - I've seen a lot of different mediums this year. All of them good, some of them really good. But I think having so many experiences in one year gave me a perspective I didn't have before. I know it's not a competition but, John kicks butt! He's just SO GOOD! :laff2:
11-06-2004, 12:01 PM
megan what can i say?? I AM SPEECHLESS!!!! wait til she tells you the other part to this story!!! i literally was crying this morning with tears of joy!! Beautiful things are happening everyone!!!!
these blue rose sightings are incredible!!!!! especially the blue rose rosary!!! im so glad now you have one tooo!! does yours smell like roses? the one that I have from Sienna,Italy smell just like roses and are a pretty aqua blue color with a cool texture. just curious! As you said when I was back from Italy "There will be proof with the rosary!!!!" enough said!! :lwink:
i cant wait til you post the rest!! im just bursting with excitement and happiness!! at times like these i hate the time difference!!! LOL
I am just soooooooooooooooo psyched for you. I kept thinking and praying for you yesterday and sending blue roses. I even said a prayer for John and asked that he sent some blue roses too.. Prayer REALLY is powerful!!!! :love:
Carolee welcome!!! :wave: I'm so excited that you have a blue rose expereince too!!! This is way too awesome!! And what perfect timing!!!!! Have a wonderful time at the seminar tomorrow, and when you're back be sure to fill us in, and also tell your blue rose story!!! I really would love to hear it!!!! :lwink:
this is just beyond incredible!!!!!!!!!!!! rofl
11-06-2004, 03:22 PM
More to follow soon... feel much better after some sleep :)
11-06-2004, 03:37 PM
Where’s the new father…
The mic is passed to another relative seated a few seats down and he validates that he just had child, but not that new of a dad.
John asks if he’s sure…
John asks him who Fred is? He validates that it is an uncle.
John asks about who has the hiding tobacco problem, like who’s sneaking smokes?
The mic is passed to the mom, who says that she did it when she was younger.
John busts her chops and says are you sure its not now
She insists that it was when she was younger
John says where’s the twin or the Gemini?
She validates that the Fred is her twin.
John acknowledges the name Joe
The section that had been read moments ago, related to the family John was focusing on, claims that he is Joe and that he and his wife have been trying. They have a two year old.
John turns and says congratulations
The audience all clapped and cheered.
He then joked “looks like this is the stork section, just watch how people will try and vacate this section” which of course led to a good laugh.
John said, we’ve found our new father.
John was then bringing through the energy of a young child, mic was passed to a sister in the row who had miscarried.
John validated that the child was still with the family.
John turns back to the cousins section and says he’s got a son coming through who passed in a vehicle accident.
(It was at this point I noticed how bright John’s aura was – it was really really cool - like a very white yellow :rainbow2: )
11-06-2004, 04:01 PM
So...what was this slight surprise?! I'm just itching to find out...lol!
He plugs the page we had all been handed and that TJ will be coming out at the end of the seminar to share a slight surprise.
11-06-2004, 05:58 PM
John said there is anniversary that is now, like yesterday, today or tomorrow, but around now. The son also acknowledged that he took the responsibility for crossing himself over, like he has to assume fault for the accident.
John acknowledged a photo of himself at Christmas time as he was standing on one leg off kilter (John demonstrated and it was really funny).
The family acknowledged that the move John did looked like a Christmas photo of him while he was roller skating.
There was an S connection – which the family validated
Today’s date brought up significance for the family, John was quite insist upon this
The family wasn’t getting it yet.
He also acknowledged the baby on the way, the mom validated that her daughter’s baby was due on his birthday.
John then was bringing through the uniform – military or police. The woman acknowledged that her father was, and Cathi (the woman who was first read) acknowledged that her father had a uniform connection. But John felt he was with the woman who lost the son.
John went on to say isn’t there someone else who he would be connected to that he saw as a father figure. This person could still be here.
AT that point she realized John was talking about her son’s roller skating coach, who had a birthday in November. She hadn’t kept in touch with him after her son’s passing but she did remember he had a birthday in November.
John went on to say that despite the fact that this coach was in her life for a two year period, he had a strong influence in her son’s life.
John also had a stomach surgery come through, she acknowledged that it was her husband.
John said that her son was pushed forward first and now he is bringing the husband through, his dad.
John asked if the son went before the dad, and she said yes.
What was the connection to the 3rd or the 3rd of a month.
She said that was when his liver transplant was, March, her husband passed 18 months ago.
John acknowledged the relationship between the father and son that it was rocky while they were here, there was a little friction between the two. The issues had to do with not being appreciative of the other’s life issues.
John then asked her if she knew what a scudge was, and she said no, and he said, well I would consider your son to be a scudge, a ball buster.
Like when her husband was crossing and he came through the tunnel and was at the pearly gates, her son had locked the doors and said you can’t come in, what’s the password. (which got a laugh).
John classified her husband as a sort of judgmental man, like he was adopted, and that he some how didn’t belong with the family who raised him.
John validated that he was on life support for two days, and he told them that there was nothing further that could be done for him.
There was a decision that was made between him and God that it was his time to go.
John’s last validation to her was, watch the ear or earring, and don’t lose it, if you did it’s in the seat cushions. To which there was a relieved thank you from her.
Family pulled back
More to come
11-06-2004, 07:28 PM
Thanks Megan! Look forward to the next installment! :)
11-06-2004, 10:21 PM
To the far right corner to me, John pointed to two people walking in late, he asked if they were sisters, and insisted to the staff that they get a mic over there.
John asked if Dad was passed. They said yes.
John asked if Dad was a pain in the ass? They laughed and said yes.
John acknowledged, Dad is clearly here, he then asked, where were you? Where were you coming from?
One of the sisters responded, that they were trying to park…
John said, did you have like two choices and you picked the second one, and well, your dad wants me to tease you about that.
John then was getting a Waller or Walter Street reference. John said that he walked up and down a lot of hills today but that he wasn’t that familiar with the area, and he didn’t know street names.
He said he was getting the reference through a radio talk show host he knows in NJ, Mary Walters (at which point I was going OMG!! Cause of Amy) The family acknowledged Waller Street in San Francisco and that it had a connection to them.
John then brought up that there was a misdiagnosis issue or health issue he needed to reference. Like he suffered from 2 issues, like one issue was treated, but he had something else.
Then he referenced the 6th or 6th month and that there was an birthday or anniversary then.
She said yes.
John asked if this person was with her, and she said yes. He asked if she was the oldest girl and that there was something with 2 groupings in her family.
John said that he wants her to tease the oldest sister.
Then John said, okay I’m getting a reference, and I don’t know if I should be acknowledging this as its personal to me, but at church, might there be a confession that needed to be made involving a collection basket?
The oldest sister took the mic and she was like uhm, no.
John elaborated, and gave a hypothetical story that involved a time in her life when she might have been oh, six or seven or so, and the kid is BORED out of her mind, and parents or person of authority is not sitting close to them and mom or dad gave them a quarter for the collection basket, but instead of just putting that quarter in the basket, they take out the five… (which made the audience laugh).
She was like ABSOLUTELY NOT, my dad would have seen it.
John’s like, he did, which is why this is being brought up and he says he’s putting it to the oldest. She still said it wasn’t her, but John was definitely sure of what dad was showing him, so he left it with the family.
Next John was getting someone who had passed from a suicide.
She responded that it was her husband.
John said that he was now coming through but John said that dad wouldn’t let the husband come through until the daughter acknowledged the collection basket story. The dad gave more information to the daughter, as John said to her, he’s telling me it’s when you changed churches, at which point she still wasn’t sure what John was talking about.
John also validated a Thomas or T
That was another reference that the family didn’t get.
John validated that she was one of five kids.
Then as John was about to move on, she said to him, yeah know as we were trying to park the car, I said Daddy is so going to pick on us for being late.
Which led the audience to a nice round of applause and John moved on into the next reading…
11-06-2004, 10:30 PM
John was pulled to the center balcony, a daughter, or younger female was coming through with a unique A name like Adrienne or Aidan, and a celebration in May.
(a few people up there tried to claim this one, but John finally found the right person)
The woman said it was her mom’s sister Aida (mom was sitting next to her) and her son was born in May.
John said that the acknowledgement of the month of May was like a psychic shout out to her son.
John said he was getting someone coming through that had potential invasive tumors in the head and there was going to be an invasive procedure.
She acknowledged that her uncle died from what they first had thought Alzheimer’s disease, when it turned out the dementia was due to cancer.
Then John validated a Patty or Patrick name that was coming through, and she again validated the information.
John asked where the Aquarian was or the January baby, and she said the daughter was the Aquarian.
Then John said she’s showing me pink roses and that the Grandmother is there too.
John concluded the reading by asking who the painter was, and she validated that it was a dear family friend.
11-06-2004, 10:48 PM
Oh, I promise you'll love the Q&A portion of the seminar. I stayed up til 3:30am just to hear this story. :)
11-06-2004, 10:48 PM
Then John took the opportunity for question and answer, he went around the room and selected three people to have ask questions.
First Question: Do your guides, the boys, have guides? Do they get information from someone else?
John responded that there are many levels on the other side and that his guides were so high up that he didn’t think that they really did. That a moderator could step in from time to time, but really their boss was God. John didn’t think that they did get their information from someone else because they were so high up.
Second Question: A family member tragically passed, and is John getting anything…
John used this question as a teaching question for those in the gallery, that whenever someone seeks out a medium or psychic and they want to connect, it is really really important that you not share information so that way when you get to a point and you can’t pull it apart anymore, then you know your experience was real.
John went on to say that the best thing that we can do when we do lose someone tragically to keep the inner dialog going with them, and to journal those conversations with them and move through the grief. MEDIUMSHIP IS NOT A CURE FOR LOSS.
Third Question: Came from the family he read earlier, Luis, was he getting anything more from his family?
(more Q/A to follow)
11-06-2004, 10:54 PM
awesome details megan!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you did a lovely job!! ooo my favorite part is coming up!!!!! :jumper: :jumper: :jumper:
11-06-2004, 11:40 PM
Then John took more questions, now on a personal note at this point I raised my hand as high and as hard as I could and thought with the largest think I possibly could OVER HERE JOHN, he called on someone to my left, (OVER HERE JOHN) and then he pointed at me and said you, then someone to my right on the opposite side of the room. The guy in front me turned around and said did you have your hand raised right and I was said yes.
To say that my heart rate picked up was an understatement, thank God I didn’t have to go first. :eek:
First Question: Where and what is the other side?
John responded by saying it is right now and coexists with us. He said that his boys gave him a great analogy to use, that it is like the Internet. To demonstrate, John said, well where is the internet, out there somewhere right? You can live there and do a whole bunch of stuff, and when the other side wants to contact you and send a message, they send you an email.
John then went into a cool story about his flight to SF.
In the terminal before he got on the plane he was in the terminal and the gentleman behind the counter really agitated John and he went on to say that he doesn’t easily get agitated, to give a description as to how awful this guy had been. Practically everyone was on board when this happened. He said he was going to send someone at headquarters a NASTY letter about his experience. Especially knowing how much John dislikes flying and how much white lighting and praying he does around the plane.
So he got on the plane, took his seat, ears beat red as he was slightly agitated. The woman seated next to him, was making small talk and said, so what do you do? (he laughed to himself, and thought okay what should I say…) he responded that he was an author, figuring he could leave it at that. She responded, Oh really, about what? (John then was like darn, she got me there), He said, uhm, about Parapsychology and psychic stuff. She said, Oh! You know I’m a little bit psychic myself. She said, don’t worry about that guy, he’s really not a very nice person. John’s jaw almost dropped as she wasn’t in the terminal when the conversation had gone on, and there was no way that she could have heard the exchange that he gone on between the two of them. So for him that was a psychic experience, knowing information when there is no possible other means to know that information.
John then told another story about his grandmother.
His Grandmother had decided her exit strategy she had an infection on her pinkie toe and that was how she left the world, John went in to check on her, and it was 3:30 or 4 am in the morning and when he opened the door, John gasped at the amount of people that were in the room to bring his grand mother over.
The woman also asked, well what about re-incarnation.
John used the analogy of well, think about the actor Tom Cruise, how many movies has he done, a lot right? Well think of it this way, each movie is like a different life time, under the façade of the actor is the spirit of Tom Cruise, same thing.
The audience clapped and it was finally my turn… after 1 year, 2 months and 12 days. Except John couldn’t find me he was looking up the balcony (thank God the person up there said they were number three…) as the next thing I knew I was talking into the infamous mic.
Question 2: I said, over here John and after he found me… (this is all from memory no tape recorder or notes could be used so if someone has notes or further information on what he might have said exactly I'd love to hear it)
When John turned to look at me, the world faded away and it was suddenly like he was the only one in the room...
Megan: I said, First I want to thank you for all that you have done,
John: Aw that means so much.
Megan: I have a message from Amy in NJ who heard you on the Mary Walters radio show (His eyes bugged out and jaw dropped.)
John: We were just talking about that show(referring to the earlier reading)!
Megan: She wanted me to tell you that she heard you and she wanted me to say thank you, it meant the world to her
John: The blue rose is on my desk, then you know how special that blue rose is!
Megan: I want to thank you for acknowledging the blue rose at last year's seminar, (at which point his jaw really dropped.)
John: I have an apology to make to you (At that very moment my heart dropped to my stomach)
John: I was walking up and down all the hills in San Francisco and we were in a shop in Union Square and TJ, where’s TJ?
TJ: uh, up here John
John: Well we were in this shop, and we saw this blue rose (something I didn’t catch what) and I was like I’m supposed to get this for someone and TJ also had the same feeling.
TJ: Yup (my jaw dropped.)
John: I’m so sorry because I decided not to get it because of what the symbol means to me, someone who’s recently crossed, and I was like I’m not going to get that for someone.
(I was dumbstruck for a moment and he was about to walk away)
Megan: John, I have one more question, (he had walked to center right, but there was no way I was not going to ask my question….) (I some how spit it out) In your new book Final Beginnings, on page 186, (He gets this look on his face and comes right to the edge of the stage, like I was asking the most left field question) you have your psychic bring through a blue rose for Conrad that represents love, where did you get that inspiration to have the blue rose represent love?
John: I co-wrote that book with Natasha and we played with the symbols and mixed them around a bit and changed the meanings a little bit and he had a feeling my family may have had a hand in the creative process
I had my answer. :jumper:
The next question turned into a reading
11-07-2004, 12:18 AM
what can I say???!!!! i am soooooooooooooooooooooo honored and touched by what you said to him!!!! I can't believe it!!!! this is beyond incredible!!!!!
theres no coincidence that he first talked about mary and the radio show--that definitely happened for a reason!!! I wish i coulda seen his reaction!!! that makes me feel sooo incredible special that he remembers me. you have no idea what that makes me feel and what that means to me!!! so thank you a million million trillion times!!!! YOU ROCK!!!
wonderful notes meg! :jumper: :goofy:
11-07-2004, 04:10 AM
Amy, what a very special acknowledgement that was! You must be so pleased. :jumper:
Megan~ Your notes were fabulous! I got up at 4AM this morning to check to see if they were posted; I just couldn't wait another minute! :thumbsup:
11-07-2004, 07:12 AM
Wow! Great reporting Megan and what a great validation! :stick:
11-07-2004, 08:19 AM
Congrats to you both Megan and Amy Rose. What a wonderful experience and something both of you will never ever forget!!!
11-07-2004, 08:30 AM
Fabulous notes, Megan! And Amy, your spontaneous joy is so enjoyed!!!
I believe I've just had a piece of that no-cal cake John talks about. ... or do you guys think i'm reaching? I'd hate to be the dreaded "relative stealer"!!! :hmm:
Megan, you mentioned that John said there was a daughter, or younger female coming through with a unique A name like Adrienne and a celebration in May. I (Adrienne) am a daughter, born on May 11, the day before Mothers Day.
John said that the acknowledgement of the month of May was like a psychic shout out to her son. I'd say it was a shout out to ME! (Mom always wanted a son, thus named me Adrienne, the feminine version)
John said he was getting someone coming through that had potential invasive tumors in the head and there was going to be an invasive procedure. My sister had cancer, which spread to the brain, but there was no invasive procedure done for that. so that could be nothing for me.
She acknowledged that her uncle died from what they first had thought Alzheimer’s disease, when it turned out the [u]dementia was due to cancer
John asked where the Aquarian was or the January baby, and she said the daughter was the Aquarian. My daughter is also an Aquarian.
Then John said she’s showing me pink roses and that the Grandmother is there too. And my mom, my daughters grandmother, is there on the other side, and has been sending me dimes.
John concluded the reading by asking who the painter was, and she validated that it was a dear family friend. Painting is my son's business, and my husband is a painter, (artistic).
Thanks for all those great notes!
11-07-2004, 01:20 PM
:) Hi all! I too went to this seminar , had an amazing time in San Francisco as well as continuing to learn from John's wisdom in his presence.
---Megan I thought that was you after I heard your question and intent on relaying Amys appreciation. ( I thought it was pretty cool I knew what you were speaking of since I knew this from the board...).
John was quick in wit and clever in response as usual this time, but I felt even more so from being in such a cool energy city. It felt like we were at his house..at least most of us...the first reading, there was a lot of miscommunications from the family..as megan relayed....
I have been wanting to ask John a question, that had come to me in Pheonix after the third seminar. Sometimes family will use the moment to slip in some messages, and in the hotel room pre-seminar, I wondered if I would be brave enuf to ask, let alone would my Mom say hi ( or my Nanny, her mom ) if I opened up the opportunity..As I finished the thought, the hotel lamp blinked. So a hi was in the works right there. :P
Though Carol was right next to me, sitting down ( I don't think she felt well that night) I didn't raise my hand....dag nabbit....but the first question Jhn took was about his guides having guides, and it was so strikingly similiar to what I was going to ask him about our guides, it was sort of a validation/me-too question.....and he stated what a good question it was...lol :rolleyes:
I so enjoyed the city, the colorful people, and the drama on the streets there; performers, cable cars, the beach.....such a healing time! And having John be a part of my stay there was icing...
Phigalilly, did you mean me ( Mindi ) when you said you missed me altogether? I didn't realize anyone here knew I would be going to the seminar...
Oh and the surprise at the end was two tickets to John's gallery-like seminar in January in San Fran. His announcemet guy JT gave them to whoever's b-day was September 18, his b-day...
---peace to all ....Mindi
11-07-2004, 01:56 PM
Sorry this is taking so long guys, I'm back at my computer and ready for another session of minutes.
Adrienne, I have to say, ya, I do think you did get a piece of the cake too. John has often said that he get's letters from people who after watching his show felt like they had received a validation. Cause what's interesting about that family is that they were seated in the balcony above me close to my right.
I'm glad I could be a messenger - :thumbsup:
I've got 18 pages of double sided notes left to go through, and lots more to tell... so stay tuned... more to come really soon!!
I told my aunt about getting my question answered and she was a bit skeptical as she has never watched the show, but has remained open, but I know it to be true in my heart (that and after seeing all the blue roses that day, I don't doubt it at all.) At least she has remained open :) One of these days I'll get her there so she can see what I'm talking about first hand. It's a fabulous start :)
Alrighty back to typing!!
11-07-2004, 02:26 PM
Megan you have done a wonderful job of relaying the info from the show. There is so much to hear about and usually a new lesson as well. The Q & A sessions are the most interesting to me because it provides us with valuable insight.
I'm ready for the next session - hands folded and sitting up straight :D
11-07-2004, 02:27 PM
Question 3: Can you connect with someone who speaks a different language?
John told a story of a co-worker who was of Arabic decent and their father was coming through. For nearly close to an hour John kept trying the name, he knew it was an S name and thought it was Sayid, Say-foy-at, S something. For 45 minutes he sat there struggling to figure it out, until finally he said, tell me what is it, she said, Sam, okay but that’s short for something right? She said, Samuel, and he was born here.
His guides used that as a teaching experience.
1996 was a tough year for John and his family, he lost his grandmother and aunt and Sandra’s grandmother had passed. His Aunt came through to him within hours and his grandmother a few days. Sandra’s family is Portuguese and she had to fly to Portugal for the funeral. She’d call John to ask if he had heard anything and John had to tell her he hadn’t. Well she kept bugging him and finally John said, YES I’ve heard from her and I’m not going tell you.
Sandra asked is it because you don’t understand her?
Sandra had gone out and purchased a special crucifix for her grandmother. At this point John did something that guys can do to their wives, he opened his mouth and said, Sandra its not like she’s going to know you gave it to her.
John said, it was one of those moments of oh God just shoot me.
Now at this point in time, John reached out to the guys in the audience and said, guys in the audience will be able to back me up on this as its something we’ve all done, I wished I could take it back. Sandra was really upset with me to say the least.
Very hotly she said, When my grandmother gets there she’ll know.
It was shortly after Sandra got home that Grandma came through, and John was like, I’ve got your grandmother here, and she’s telling me that you put the crucifix in the coffin. Well uhm, your mom took it out cause she wants our kids to have it.
Sandra’s like, What? No she didn’t.
John told her to call her mother cause she’s playing with it right now. (sure enough her mom did take it out).
Then he asked her, Sandra did you take any thing like from the gravesite, like a rock or flower or something.
Sandra took a step back (John demonstrated) and coyly said, You always say the validation is really important.
John was like Sandra, you live with me, and she was like it was really important to me to get that validation.
The next reading…
11-07-2004, 02:35 PM
John turned back to the right side section and said was someone thrown from a horse, cause they are showing me Christopher Reeve. (Several people tried validating, but finally he found the person the information belonged to.)
Woman said, her niece’s name was Chris was killed in a car accident, it is her brother’s daughter, and she did horse shows.
John asked if there was another person in the car, she validated by saying yes, but that person wasn’t killed.
John was also getting someone who was non blood but of the same age, a Jenny or a Jeannine. (They got stuck here a little bit.) Finally she validated that her daughter in law, Jennifer, had a neighbor that died who was in his early twenties and would be a contemporary to Chris, the girl who died in the car accident. John was bringing him through as he said they were together.
Next John said, now there’s a grand-daughter on the way? She validated by saying, yes she is due November 6.
Then the family pulled back.
11-07-2004, 03:01 PM
In the same section John went to the far wall almost and said, I’m coming to the fire family, from smoke inhalation, no one was jumping on this one. So he walked to that corner of the stage and with his fingers drew a box in the air and said I’m right here.
A woman seated within John’s “box” acknowledged that her whole family had been killed in a gas chamber in Poland.
John asked if it was during World War II
She said yes.
He asked about the lung cancer or emphysema issue.
She validated that it was her father.
John then was getting a confusing reference of something going back and forth, like in and out of captivity.
John asked was he like the sole survivor.
She validated that both her parents were, her dad was from a family of seven, and her mom a family of nine, and both were the sole survivors from each family. Her dad did escape Auschwitz and was recaptured and later released.
John validated that the family he never new meet him on the other side.
He asked if she was aware her family had a well known painter in the family? She validated that her mom was a well known painter in Israel.
John asked about an Olga or an Al name, she wasn’t sure.
Dad also had a female to his side, like a sister.
She validated that it was his first wife that he lost in the concentration camp.
John said that they were all together (and pulled back)
11-07-2004, 03:16 PM
John returned back to the center balcony area and asked, who missed the cruise, and that this would be a funny story, and that they were supposed to leave from the East Coast.
A woman validated that she missed her cruise because her nephew had been killed in the world trade center on September 11th.
John validated, well your nephew wants me to talk about you missing the boat.
John also asked about the twin.
She validated that his father was her twin.
John said that her nephew wanted to acknowledge the Godmother, she validated that it was her sister.
John said that he was validating her.
John asked if he worked in the towers as he wasn’t getting that he was of service.
She validated that he worked there but his family was having a tough time with closure as he worked so high up there was nothing found to help bring them closure.
John validated Kenny or Chris name, a K name.
He asked if there had been two babies since he past.
She validated Caitlin and Julianne
He asked if there was a Sandy or a Cindy connection?
She couldn’t validate, but the women next to her could.
Is she related to the nephew?
She responded that he wasn’t.
John said pass the mic
11-07-2004, 03:29 PM
John asked, is your mom’s dad passed?
She said yes.
How do you feel about cats?
She validated that she and her mom used to have a cat.
John asked if the cat was missing an eye or blind in one eye?
She couldn’t validate that.
John said really?
Then John asked if there might be any other pet the family owned who may have had a pet with one eye?
She said she was sure that there was no pets she was ever aware of who had one eye.
He said, well mom’s coming through with the one eyed or blind in one eye cat.
John said it was like the cat had surgery to have the eye removed.
He asked that she ask someone in the family about this about an animal missing one, eye and at this point he’d even take a stuffed cat that was missing one eye.
John asked if mom died of cancer, she said yes.
John acknowledged that she wants me to thank you for helping her with her treatment. She was on chemo right?
She said yes.
Did you help color her hair?
She said yes
Did you guys joke that when it grew back that you would color it funky colors?
John asked if she was the only girl or the baby of the family, she said she was the baby.
John said that mom was acknowledging that the responsibility fell on one person more so than the other and wants you to let her know its okay.
Then there was a reference to the month of February. He asked if the surgery was done around Valentines day
She validated that the surgery was in February and her dad’s birthday was in February.
John said she’s thanking you for the eloquent words at her memorial as they touched someone else in a special way during a very dark time.
She asked if she had a grandson, she validated and said yes.
He asked if he was 2 months or 2 years old, (John was way off) she validated that her son was 8 years old but she never saw him.
John asked where the Matt, Matthew or Mark connection was, she said she didn’t know an Ma name.
John validated that there was a 2 something and got the feeling then that someone is pregnant. He asked if there were 2 kids born since she passed, and she said no, only one.
John announced that another one is coming.
He asked her why does she want me to talk about raisins?
She said that Heard it Through the grapevine was one of her favorite songs.
He said, she wants me to let you know that she survived the physicality of what consumed her, life could not have been more beautiful and she was used to being in control. She wasn’t afraid to die, she was afraid to surrender control.
Family pulled back and John took some time for more questions…
11-07-2004, 04:15 PM
Family pulled back and John took some time for more questions and selected three people…
First Question: Do you see it more crowded in here or how do they all fit?
John quickly responded that he felt it being more crowded. Like when he first came out he was going to tell us three stories but then the first family happened and that plan was changed. He just goes with the energy. He said your family and loved one’s get you here for a reason and he brings things through for you to validate, and those that need to get read, do so for a reason.
Second Question: How do you control the flow of information?
John responded that he doesn’t. The woman asking said she had a fear of not being able to help the person. John said, then this might not be the line of work for you, as there are a great deal of responsibilities that come with this work and ethics that go with it. You shouldn’t worry yourself with always getting it or being right. He then made the analogy that if the medical system was always right or perfect, then they would have been able to cure his mother. Every field doesn’t have 100% accuracy.
Third Question: In my dreams I often speak to someone who has passed who tell me information about the future? Am I crazy? She also made some reference to John in her dreams.
John responded, well, am I crazy? Which made the audience laugh
She said no, and when he pressed her about him being in her dreams, she was like I plead the fifth, which really gave the audience a good laugh.
John went on to explain that dreams have the capacity for our guides and loved ones to show us information about our own lives. John calls them pre-cognitive dreams. He also explained that almost all deja-vu was more from those types of dreams, rather than having to do with past life experiences.
She asked about what he might mean in a dream, and John explained that sometimes guides might use him as a teaching method and he reflected back on the earlier conversation on where the other side world, and that he was more like AOL broadband, the delivery method.
11-07-2004, 04:35 PM
John then jumped into a reading in the center balcony section for the next question, but instead he was pulled into a reading.
John relayed that a brother or male figure to the side was coming through.
She validated that it would be her husband.
Was he gone in the past five years?
She said he’d been gone 11 years but they were together for five years.
John said that her husband was excited to do this, he asked, if they were really more like friends.
She said yes.
John asked if at the end they were down to just liking each other.
(which got a good laugh)
Then he relayed that her husband though had very good memories of affection.
John also brought up and issue with substance.
She validated that they were both alcoholics.
John relayed a story of a man who he was reading and said, where’s the alcoholic, and the man said to him, well I’ve been sober for the 32 years, but with alcoholism it is an illness the person is always aware of, it is part of your imprinting.
She said that she’s been clean and sober and just got her four year chip.
(the audience gave her wonderful applause)
John acknowledged that after she acknowledged that was the direction the husband was first going and he misinterpreted.
He validated that it was not okay to ever be drinking. She validated that she doesn’t have a friend she hangs out with during foot ball season, because he thinks its okay to drink beer during foot ball season.
John was also getting someone who crossed himself over.
She asked John a question about a dream she had about her husband, that in the dream he appeared to her naked but his back was to her and he had no face or innards, and she turned and said, honey you can’t come back, he was an organ donor, you see we gave everything away. (again led to lots of laughter)
Then John relayed that he was getting a Brian or a BR name, then he asked if there were two Brian’s here.
She relayed that she had a friend Brian who passed away when he was a teenager.
John asked if he caused his own passing
She said no, he died of cancer
John asked if he asked somebody to leave a bottle of pills on the night stand and walk out.
She said she didn’t think so.
John said, well I’m getting someone who has an issue with crossing themselves over. Wait, this person hung themselves?
She validated that Richie or Ricky passed from a hanging.
Brian was bringing through Richie
Ricky is Brian’s brother and they wanted you to know that they come through together.
John asked if Brian passed within a couple of days of a major holiday, if not on the actual holiday, and he was specific like 12/23 or 12/27 like within three days max, and John said he wouldn’t be surprised if it was on the actual day.
Family pulled back….
11-07-2004, 04:43 PM
---( to add on )
I had written down that John said dreaming of him was "representing the connection" we all have to the other side.
This woman also mentioned in her dream of seeing a headstone with her friend's name on it, ( who is still alive ). John's eyebrow lifted, and he asked her if she saw a date on the stone, and she replied no. He called it "de-markation"; no date to mark a passing since we don't truly die.
Another question someone posed was how our family knows to come and meet us when it is that time- he explained it was like they get a "spiritual s.o.s." and then our loved ones rally to meet us. :love:
Also, the impression I got with Sandra's grandmother finally coming through, was that granma had told John Sandra took something from the gravesite, ( a stone, or rock, or some object). Sandra admitted to John that she needed to know if it REALLY was her grandmother if John validated that she had removed something, so didn't even tell John about it, just to make sure it was really her...I believe John joked about Sandra "testing " him..
p.s. phigalilly...I recieved your e-mail after I got home..I had left already on thursday..also found the thread back in May I had got my ticket!! Mental skip....
Megan, how in the world did you both manage to write this all down and listen too? I would have been. :goofy: Fantastic report! We all feel like we were there with you.
11-07-2004, 05:26 PM
In that same section area, he said I’m coming to my nurse, the woman he was pointing to said that she was a research scientist.
John joked that it was all the white coats, same thing to him…
She asked him a question about a dream she had about her co-worker, in her dream they were walking through a cemetery, and they came to a tombstone with her co-workers name written on it.
John asked if the coworker was still here, she responded yes.
He asked if she saw a date on the tombstone
She said no
John acknowledged the dream as one of the pre-cognitive dreams where guides give us the chance to validate that the love that connects us here in the physical world doesn’t end when a person passes.
(There was a little bit more of the exchange between John and the woman, but my brain was starting to fade at this point in the evening so my notes didn’t fully capture this part).
Mindi thank you for clarifying more on that... I got into listening to the story and the fingers momentarily stopped capturing.
11-07-2004, 05:29 PM
I am coming to the end, I've got 7 pages left of hand written notes.
I was an English Major in college and my professors like John talk fast so I had to learn how to listen and take notes really really fast.
Alrighty back to the note book!!! I am almost done!!!
For some who might be wondering what happened to the story that John told about his mom coming in his bedroom, I had it in the wrong place...
Coming up next on the saga of the San Francisco Seminar...
John's story of his mom's pre-cognative dream...
11-07-2004, 05:32 PM
John told a story about his mom and that one night she came in John’s room, at 3:30 or 4:00 am in the morning. She slammed open his bedroom door, and said, Johnny are you okay? Are you okay? Where were you tonight? Are you okay… John told her that he was fine, he had gone out that night and everything was fine, nothing had happened.
Uneasy, she turned and said okay go back to sleep, I’ll tell you about it in the morning.
So the next morning, John said, okay ma, what was up with last night.
She said that she was wide awake and she turned over and John was next to her all in white and he was telepathically saying to her everything is going to be okay, everything is going to be just fine. I am going to take care of everything. At which point she freaked and ran into her son’s bedroom to make sure everything was going to be okay.
And in the end, John did take care of everything, and everything did turn out okay, just as his mother had witnessed.
11-07-2004, 05:49 PM
John then went back into readings. He was pulled to a section to my right, and he said,
“This is a first for me, but is there anyone in this section who had a family member killed by a serial killer?”
John was unnerved by the five raised their hands.
John relayed that this killer had taken the lives of six or seven people and they were found in a desert or hilled area.
Those with hands raised tried acknowledging it, but it was the woman from Australia who validated that it belonged to her.
She was from Perth and had a childhood friend who lived in the Bushland to the South West who was killed. Except so far they had only found three bodies.
(Someone else jumped in and said that they have a best friend killed by the Yuba City Serial killer who burned 27 people and buried them in an apple orchard – what was eerie was how everyone in the room was like, ooh I remember that) but John said it wasn’t it.
He was with the woman from Austrailia, John asked what was in the north eastern part of the country. She said that was where her brother lived.
John validated that he had mom coming through, with a connection to the name of Alice and there was a bad skin connection.
She validated that Alice was her Grandma and her dad had bad eczema and dad had major issues with it.
John validated that someone had passed at the hands of a serial killer, and asked if there had been a large animal mauling or found near a carcass.
John asked if it had been about ten years, since the passing of this person, she validated that it had been 6 or 7 years.
John said that they were going to get this person, he was getting the imagery of the Canadian Mounties and that they always get their man, Aussies though are bit more vindictive, doesn’t matter how long it takes, they will get their man.
John also got that this person was in a position of authority.
The woman validated that recently the papers were suspecting it was a person of authority.
John said he was hoping that this had already happened, if not, there will be 7 bodies found.
Family pulled back…
11-07-2004, 06:05 PM
John then told the story about the time he was in Australia and how the Aussies’ have a wicked, wicked sense of humor.
In April 2005 he is planning on doing a charity even there he said.
So he is in Brisbane, and its 3 or 4 am NY time and he thought of doing something to unite the room by telling them about the SNL skit they did on John and Crossing over.
Except John called it a spoof, which of course led the Australians to burst out laughing. Then as he would get a pull and say I’m coming over here, the audience would erupt in raucous laughter again.
He said that Aussie was an incredibly spiritual place and how connected they were and were just excited to be part of the process.
John also learned that the terminology “pissed” means to get drunk.
Well John started each seminar that first year, with that story, and always got the same reaction, so at the end of the tour someone clued him in and gave him a book on Australian Slang.
Well in Aussie slang, spoof means something entirely different as it means to ejaculate, (which of course got everyone in the SF audience to laugh) and to demonstrate the point he pointed various sections and said I’m coming over here, and here, and here, which again resulted in hysterical laughter.
He also once told a story about giving a girl his ring, which of course resulted in laughter, as that too has a different meaning. He asked the Aussie girl he had just read, and she said she couldn’t say it, but pointed to a body part. He also told the story how he was trying to explain psychometry and he said that he would hold someone’s object, and that again resulted in laughter… as that too has a different meaning.
After a good laugh, he went back into readings.
11-07-2004, 07:32 PM
---Wow, Megan...such wind-in-your hair at being so fleet-footed in note taking!! I took my best notes at the Ohio seminars, and love to read through the teachings, let it absorb again..I usually tack down snippets of wisdom and processes, such as during Q and A times, and bits of readings that will jog my recollections..
I must bow, however and offer kudos to your serious passion in note taking, and relaying John's message as yummy pieces of cake for everyone!
---peace mindi :)
11-07-2004, 11:36 PM
After a good laugh, he went back into readings.
John went back over to the far right and said okay I’m coming over here and the person coming through is bringing up something that they actually don’t really care about, but did someone just paint a room, Kermit the Frog green? Like Florescent Kermit Green?
(this was a night of mic stealers, but finally John found the right person)
A woman acknowledged that she had just painted her sun room that green.
John joked, to enhance the greenness? She acknowledged that the color turned out differently than she expected.
John asked about a Barbara connection, and she said she was Debbie, John made a joke about a hearing impairment, but redirected... and said he was getting a connection to a B name like Becky or Barbara…
She validated Becky.
John said that he had a mom.
She validated that mom had passed.
John said, that mom was critiquing the paint job.
He asked if at one point in time the room was used for storage, and she acknowledged and said that it was at one point in time.
He asked where the Ja or James or Jack was.
She said that was her husband
John was getting a reference to colon cancer or blackness to that area.
She acknowledged that he had a liver transplant and died.
John validated that the sun room had great significance for her and her connection to God and her family, and now Muppets.
Next a Secret Garden reference was coming through.
She at this point handed the mic to her daughter as this hit closer to home for her.
They had just put a fountain in the front yard as a memorial to her husband.
John acknowledged that he didn’t die from the liver transplant. From an infection?
She validated that it was from Aspergillus’s, a staph infection that he got from the hospital. That the surgery was a success.
John validated for her that he was applauding her for not suing the hospital that she made in fact a bigger statement by not doing so.
She acknowledged that the hospital did in fact all they could to save his life and to do so would be like a slap to them for the great care he did receive.
John asked if he had a hot nurse named Caroline
She acknowledged that they were all pretty hot, and yes there was a nurse named Caroline.
John said that he was acknowledging her.
John confessed that there was this one nurse who came over to care for his mom, and every time he’d talk to her he’d be dumbstruck.
Next John brought through a George or Jerry reference.
She validated that it was his uncle.
John validated that he was met by his father.
John also validated for her that she made his passing easy for him, and thanked her.
He acknowledged for her that she had x number of phenomenal years with her husband and that she knew she was going to see him again, and that she still had him and was still connected to him.
John said, uhm, he was getting a bird sign and you might have to clean the fountain quite often.
He also said he was getting the sign of Aeries, and where was the March connection.
She said that the surgery for his liver transplant was in March.
John said he was also getting an acknowledgement of the 2 hour commute they had to the hospital. She said ya, it was 2 hours with traffic.
Then John was getting a Steve Lawrence and Edie Gourmet reference, but she was not able to validate that.
John said that he was going to leave it with them, and then gave a little plug for the Bridges newsletter and talked about how she could write to him and share the validation later. And it may end up in the newsletter, under the personal experiences section.
She still wasn’t getting the reference, at which point John said, well I could be completely misinterpreting this, but I think I am going to just leave this with you.
He elaborated more on what he was seeing, he explained that he saw Steve Lawrence and Edie Gourmet at a concert at Westbury Music Faire, and that was the only reference that John could think of.
He asked if she painted the room green after he passed, she said she painted it a few days ago.
John said that she’d be changing the color in the room so that she could feel comfortable in there and so that she’d have a place to go and connect.
John said there maybe a problem with the electric in the room and to check the outlets.
He said he had to go back, the Jack or James reference, she validated that Jack was her son.
He asked if there were ties to FL or the Caribbean, she said her son lived there. John said it might be a hey for him to come up.
Family pulled back…. One more Q/A session and the final reading coming up
11-07-2004, 11:59 PM
John then took some time for Questions and Answers
Question 1: The person called on wanted to know more about Déjà vu and if John had precognitive dreams.
John explained that Déjà vu was more from precognitive dreams than past life experiences.
He said that his guides used precognitive dreams when they wanted to get his attention.
Question 2: When a spirit crosses over, is there a period of time that they can come back?
John said that in his experience he has heard of this happening and he said that this probably has been happening with our military families with loved one’s who’ve been killed in Iraq. That they know their loved one is crossed before the military even contacts them, because they’ve already heard directly from their loved one.
Question 3: A man had a friend who lost someone to suicide and he was being counseled by religious counsel that the friend was burning in hell.
John also said that those same people also said that he was going to burn in hell.
He also said that suicide is never the answer. Dropping out of life lessons is like dropping out of school. People do drop out of school, and their life is much harder than those who do finish school. He went on to say that he read a book by a medium once who said that stated in a hypothetical situation that a person took their life at 20, and they were supposed to die at 80, that they would spend the next 60 years working out their life lessons in a sort of limbo.
John said that he’s never had someone on the other side come through and talk about hell or limbo. He did say that the person who did take their own life is in a sort of hell over having to watch the agony that their loved ones and family go through over the loss of that person.
John also relayed a story about intent.
He told the story of a woman he had read, and her husband came through, and she said to him that he didn’t kill himself. A while later in the reading the husband showed John how he died, he had put a gun to his head and pulled the trigger, he had crossed himself over but he hadn’t intended to kill himself. John said that made a difference, he didn’t intend to kill himself.
He also told another story of how he was reading someone and that it was her friend. So he told the friend to call the mother. It was in his younger inexperienced days, cause he kept getting the imagery of call mom, call mom, call mom. So the friend called and said, ya I’ve got John Edward here and he’s got a message from your daughter. Well the woman let out this blood curdling scream and hung up the phone. The friend then cursed out John for putting her deceased friend’s mom through that. Later on it was found out that the mom was reading a book by another medium, and she said to her deceased daughter, well if this is real, why doesn’t a medium call me to tell me he is talking to my daughter. It was at that moment that John called.
11-08-2004, 12:01 AM
WoW Megan! When you say you're going to take notes, you don't fool around! :thumbsup:
The only thing I can add is a little more about Luis. He was sitting in my row with about six of his relatives even though he told John he was alone. Luis may have sounded developmentally delayed, but really he was just drunk. Carol handed my mother the microphone to pass down the row. His whole family of six kept right on passing it until it got to Luis, and then they were like "Oh my God! He's been drinking!" :laff2: Duh. Why'd they give him the microphone? He was pretty funny though. When he finally gave the mic to his wife the whole place applauded.
It was also a really grabby audience. There was a really positive vibe, but with lots of people nowhere near the pull zone yelling out and trying to swipe someone else's grandma. Thankfully the vibe was so pleasant John could give a teasing kind of 'knock it off' and things settled down. I've never seen so many attempted relative stealers.
The serial killer thing was really creepy. The first thing John said was that this was the first time he'd ever had this come through. Then he asked if anyone in a certain section knew someone who had been killed by a serial killer, and at least 5 people raised their hand! :eek: They weren't all in that section, but still, that's a lot of serial killer deaths! Scary.
I had a little more but my notebook was in my purse and unfortunately my car was broken into today and my purse, backpack, and overnight bag, are now the property of some poor crackhead. I hope he enjoys my expensive Jung textbooks, lecture notes, and beginning converstional Chinese tapes. The schmuck.
One other thing, just for the sake of posterity, it was JE's Grandma who went into the hospital with the infected toe.
11-08-2004, 12:09 AM
The final reading of the evening…
John came back to the left side of the room, he had a two or three year old coming through to him, there was an issue with a chemical inhalant, or problem breathing.
John was confused.
He also said that there were 4 pregnancies, the woman validated that she had 8 pregnancies.
Her daughter was 2 years 9 months and 28 days
John almost called her daughter a boy cause her energy was so dominant and explained that female energies tended to be soft and male energies more dominant.
The child was claiming to have a sibling and that the mom had gone out of her way to recognize her to the rest of the children every day, which John validated as a beautiful thing, because he said, sometimes when parents lose children, they are stuck in the moment when the child died and can’t remember the sweet. She has been able to.
She has been able to use the memory of her daughter to move forward.
John asked what was the issue with the bone cancer (cause his whole body was hurting) like the cancer went to the bone.
She relayed that she had bone cancer.
Then he was bringing through a Danny or a Daniel name
John said it was her way of making her presence known.
John asked what happened in 1990.
She said she had another daughter born.
John asked what was their commonality cause he was seeing the parallel lines.
She said that all of her other children were blonde and both girls were born with dark hair.
John asked if she had the first child’s name as a second name?
Where was the Maggie, Margaret M name
She validated the name Molly
The family pulled back…
It was at this point that the seminar was concluded.
John remembered the surprise and said that TJ would be coming out with the surprise. He said that he really loved the San Francisco venue because the energy just flowed there and was really appreciative of everyone there. He also wanted to give a personal shout out to a show in San Francisco called the Dog House, and he said to tell them that John says woof!
He then said good night and walked off.
TJ came back out and gave away two comps for the gallery seminar in San Francisco on January 21, he picked two people, one with a birthday on that day November 5 and the other on his birthday September 18.
11-08-2004, 12:13 AM
27 pages later, its done. There is the San Francisco seminar in its entirety, please if there is anything I missed or didn't capture accurately, please let me know. Towards the end my brain was completely gone.
Most of those notes actually written in the notebook are just short abbreiviations to jog my memory to put into a sentence later. (had I waited on any of this by a few more days, this posting of the notes would look a little different.)
Thank you all for your patience as I posted this, sorry it took so long.
I'll try and do it again at the SF Gallery, Fresno, and Sac seminars...
God Bless and thanks!!!
I'm so sorry to hear that you've lost some important personal articles. I know how expensive those textbooks can be, and I hope you can replace your lecture notes soon.
Maybe you'll get a call that some good samaritan has found your backpack and/or purse. Years ago, I had that happen to me a few weeks after my purse was stolen! It was found in some shrubbery by an office building. I got everything back but the cash, which was least important of all.
Wow, Megan, good job! :thumbsup:
That was about as close to a transcript as we could ever have hoped to get! :D
11-08-2004, 12:32 AM
:jumper: Way to go Megan! I can't wait to read through my copy of this amazing "transcript".
Talk about believing that I was actually there sitting next to you. ;)
Go give those fingers and wrists of yours a rest, and catch up on some sleep. :)
11-08-2004, 12:38 AM
Oh my gosh!! That stinks!! How horrible!!! Thank you so much for clarifying, that story just wasn't making sense to me cause I thought it was grandma too cause I recognized the story but in my notes I had mom written, silly me.
Well I hope they catch the creep!!!
God Bless and prayers ascending that your stuff is found!! :musicnote
11-08-2004, 01:14 AM
(((Jude, Megan))) Thank you, both. It would be nice to get some of my things back. I don't understand why they have to take everything when so little of what was there was worth anything to anyone but me. :shrug: What a miserable life they must have.
Anyway, back to the more pleasant topic...
Great job Megan!! Reading your notes is like reliving the whole event! :jumper: That was a tremendous amount of work. Thank you.
11-08-2004, 02:23 AM
Thanks so much for sharing that with us!!! I love to hear about your visits to see John. Well done!!
Sandra - hope that you do get your stuff back.
11-08-2004, 12:45 PM
((Sandra)) On the positive side maybe the creep will have his/her life changed by something in your belongings. But then again maybe not. That really stinks when someone takes your belongings - been there. :(
(((((Megan)))))) Absolutely fantastic job! :thumbsup: :jumper:
11-08-2004, 01:32 PM
After Megan's great notes, I really don't have much to add. I must say that John did seem to be the most relaxed I have ever seen him, he answered more questions than he did at the other seminars, and he also when past time, which was great, because I always hate to see it end.
This time there were 4 readings directly behind me, and I really enjoyed being able to see the reactions so close.
The Chris Reeves reading was interesting for me. My mother was an equestrian who excelled at jumping competitions. (I still have her outfit). One day she, an aunt, and a cousin were out riding. The cousins horse got spooked and ran under a tree. The riders neck was broken and died in my mothers arms. My mothers last name was Reeves. She never rode again after that day. Since John was pointing at a group opposite of where I was sitting, I didn't interupt, but it was odd.
Anyway, it was another great seminar, and I'm so glad I was able to go. Though it is not in the budget right now, I went ahead and secured a ticket for the January, smaller seminar!
11-08-2004, 01:33 PM
Great job Megan!!! :thumbsup: it felt like i was there all over again. I was sitting a few rows behind you on your right. Sandra , sorry i was unable to meet up with you and everyone else. :( hopefully next time
11-08-2004, 02:46 PM
wow megan! again excellent excellent recapping!!!! i really feel like i was there!! bravo!!!!!!!
aw Sandra i'm sorry to hear that your things were stolen. I really hope you get it back!! Just think maybe that person will learn something from your books.. and don't forget what goes around comes around. Prayers that you get it back!!!
I'm glad you all had a lovely time!! now megan get some sleep lol :lwink:
and thank you everrr so much again
11-08-2004, 08:55 PM
ml9652 I do hope we get another chance to meet at the next seminar :wave:
Recapping from the notes was a lot of fun and my pleasure, I'm glad to hear folks are enjoying them :musicnote
All the best :)
A huge thank you to you Megan! I am so glad you take such great notes. Now I can feel like I was there. Sounds like it was an amazing night.
Sandra: I hope you get some of your stuff back. It's so invasive and lousy. What did your neighbor think of the show?
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