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11-02-2002, 01:46 PM
Just walked in the door. No we didn't get read but someone from here I think did. He mentioned that he would post on the JohnEdwardFriends.org and then john mentioned something about his web site. Who was that guy ? :confused: Didn't see Steluna until we were leaving the garage.( they were in front of us) Way too many people there for me. I think it was more than 3,000 hubby thinks closer to 4 or 5,000. Give me a small venue anytime.
check back later
11-02-2002, 04:34 PM
I was also there with my boyfriend and his mother, and unfortunalty we were also not read. But the guy that "chargeit2him" mentioned did say he would post his reading on the the site here.
11-02-2002, 05:03 PM
Stacey and Sandy - sorry I didn't see you guys anywhere in the room but then....there were thousands there! Sandy, I looked for you but it was useless. Were you up in the front? We were in the left middle section toward the rear of the room. We got there in time to spend 15 minutes in the 'holding pen'!! I thought the readings were excellent and I had some tears with some of them.
I laughed when that man said he would post his updated info here on JEFriends....I bet he thought he could get JE to read the board if he did that. Can't wait to hear who that was; bless his heart, I was almost as nervous as he and his wife sounded like they were when they were getting read.
You know, I think that being a parent is going to make JE even more of a softie with those people who have lost a child, if that's possible. I did think he was going to cry at one point and I know I already was! He told a nice anecdote about how hard it is to lose a parent and how he wished that his mother had been able to be there at his son's birth so that he could place his new son in her aarms. He said that every time he gets a message from someone who has crossed over that they were at an important event in their family's life, he also is sustained by that. As we all are.
11-02-2002, 07:22 PM
Yes it was me- the big guy in the white JE Friends shirt (with the glasses) who was the last reading and mentioned this website so that more people would know about it. And yes I took good notes and will post them here. I thought the seminar was great. My reading was the last and John was rushing and did not do the checking of all the items that he normally does. We are still having trouble making things fit and in all honesty think the reading was meant for someone else, which, of course, is so frustrating. But hopefully someone in the direct line of sight behind us was able to make everything fit. Because he sure did point directly at me - that is such a very strange feeling, and said the guy in the white shirt with glasses. So we had a wonderful and horrible time all at the same time. Yikes. I will post as soon as I pull my notes together - 15 pages of them. So you will get details - you folks like me that can't get enough of details. Bill
Bill - thank you for solving the mystery. Cyn called today and told me that someone who was read said "I'll post my validations at the JohnEdwardFriends.org website" and I about fainted!
I'm sorry that you felt the reading was not for you, but I applaud your honesty in saying so. Maybe it was half and half? Hopefully those folks will show up here, so you can talk about it.
Thanks for the plug big guy, checks in the mail! ;)
(that's a JOKE for all you JREF'er's lurking!)
11-02-2002, 08:43 PM
Philadelphia - Sat Nov 2, 10:30 AM show.
Marriott Hotel. 3,000 people. 2 large screens either side of stage. Not filming for TV. Just so we could see.
Johns Introductory Comments: (not verbatim, but as close as I could recall it and could read my scrawls.)
Everybody thinks New York has energy, but Philadelphia - Wow. The people here last night were unbelievable. The intensity was incredible. Their relatives didn’t give a “rat’s ass” about me wanting to explain the process and answering questions. They just wanted to get into it. They bombarded me. It was totally out of control. So tonight I am going to gain control back.
So don’t get pissed off at your girlfriend if she gets read and you don’t. You’ll be going back to the car grumbling “You were not even supposed to be here”. If you are supposed to get the message, you will. He told a story about how he had once tracked down a woman who was at a retreat because he was so strongly receiving messages for her. It took him 1 1/2 hours. So relax - we don’t control the time, they do. And don’t just focus on what or who you came for. There are 3000 of you here; I’m obviously not going to be able to read you all. Be happy for those who are read and leave with faith in the process and the message that you don’t need a medium to do this. It’s nice, but you don’t need me.
It does not matter where you sit. And your seating is no accident. You will find there are common themes with people who are sitting in the same section. Last night we had a “mooning” theme. But please do not moon me hoping it will get my attention. It won’t, but it will get hotel security’s.
((Other comments I may add later... then he was talking about feelings involved when loved one is so ill they just want to die.... led to first reading before he finished comments.))
JE: I’m feeling the same sentiments over here. Person here thinks they could have done more to help this person. Died of cancer. You made the decision to ???? ((That means unfortunately that I can‘t read my notes)). Your sister or Mom. (Mom.) JE: was a long struggle .. (Yes ) You made the decision to keep her home (yes) then rushed to the hospital (yes) male figure to the side involved (yes) given liquid morphine (yes) you feeling guilty. I want you to know that her illness took her, not the medicine. Yes, it accelerates it, it loosens up the soul so it can depart, but it was the illness not the medicine that led to her death.
JE: The 22nd or 23rd important ((Answer was Birthdays - I think)) Are you wearing a bracelet of hers? (A ring) Is it on your wrist? (No) then no - I don’t talk about jewelry because everyone has something that has from someone. Only comes up if some special connection. ((Never followed up)) Your sister wasn’t there. (No) She needs to know it was no big deal. You were the caretaker...you and another person (yes). What’s upstairs - 2nd floor? (She was on the 2nd floor in the hospital.) No. Hospitals have elevators, I am seeing stairs. What is up the steps? ((I did not get the answer)) Most important thing for you to know is that you were not responsible for her death. Thank You.
11-02-2002, 09:29 PM
I thought it was AWESOME that you mentioned the JEfriends board....the second you mentioned it I turned to my boyfriend and I was beaming saying "I'M ON THAT BOARD!!!!!!!!!".....what a privledge!!!!! I am sooo happy to be friends with all you guys.....it is one of the greatest feelings, and I am soooo glad that I could be apart of today's seminar, even though we were not read....it was still a learning experience, and I consider it a once in a life time chance....Bill, thank you for sharing and mentiong the board!!!!
Bill, even though you haven't validated it was all for you, I still added you to the list for being read at the seminar. :) After the "plug" you gave us here, some of the other people who were read may check us out.
11-02-2002, 09:38 PM
PhilsGail - ATMYTV - Steluna - chargeit2him - Pam
we should meet in the chat room one night to talk about our experiences!!!
set up a time...I will not be around tomorrow.
11-02-2002, 09:47 PM
Back from Philly and it was Awesome!! I left my house at 3.a.m. We got there at 6:30 a.m., and waited on line for 2 hours and 15 minutes. But it was worth it. We sat in the third row, in the middle, and had a wonderful view of John and the event.
John was so great, as usual, and such a proud Daddy, mentioning his son several times. I wasn't read, but I said before I got there, that it wouldn't matter, that just being there was enough. (It would have been nice though).
There was close to 4,000 people at the seminar. The room was hugh. I never connected with anyone from this site. I looked for balloons and T-shirts, but it was almost impossible, in a room that size.
John pulled one lady up on stage because her niece was on the other side of the room, and he wanted to make it easier for everyone to follow the energies coming through for both of them. When it was over, he gave her a big hug. Later, after the seminar, as I was leaving the ladies room, I bumped into the lady and blurted out, "Your'e the lady who got a hug from John Edward!!" We both laughed and chatted about it.
It was an awesome seminar; even though I got lost somewhere on the Pa. turnpike, (I don't know how I got on the Pa. turnpike, I was way off route) and for a short time I thought I wouldn't get to the seminar at all. Then I got lost coming home, somewhere in southern NJ looking for the NJ Turnpike. It was all worth it!!! I can't wait 'til the next one!!!
11-02-2002, 09:53 PM
the lady that was pulled up on stage has to be one of the luckiest people alive.....i felt soooo good for her....what an experience.....she had to feel like one in a million....i know i would have...even though i was not read, i still feel like one in a million just ot be there!!!! that was all i asked for...to be at a seminar.
11-02-2002, 09:54 PM
Sat - 2nd reading(s) (Involved several people)
Fielded some more questions from various places. Then:
JE: I’m coming over here - not a question - a reading. ((Pointed to man in same row as us about 7 seats down. He ended up reading several people in the same area who were either related or had come together. It is almost impossible to tell who is being read at times but it is clear he is switching when he does. Also, of course, I was furiously writing, not looking. So, I’m sorry if there is any confusion, but I was doing my best.))
JE: Father figure - J.. Joe Jim (I’m J..) getting a political feeling - liked to chat about politics. He spent a lot of time doing that...different points of view ...debating different positions. ((Man was validating non-verbally; I am pretty sure and laughing))
Someone here has had major dental work - major jaw work - (woman near man - yes - younger brother) but major. (Yes - 17 teeth) That’s major... Why is your mom talking about your hair and saying “it’s finally done “? (I let my hair grow out. It was very short) She knew that? (Yes, and always wanted me to grow it long again)
I’m seeing earrings - or an ear connection... pair - jade related - green but smoky like ((I did not get the answer))
Why am I seeing Tokyo? (Maybe I am going there?) ((Laughter)) Someone there now? (No) Did someone go? (Oh yes - Uncle Jimmy. He was stationed there) ((I think that was the original “J” here, but I might be wrong)) Passed? (Yes) Wife still there? (yes) ((John waves hand as in “he is saying hello to her“)).
9th or 19th. No...Dec - 9th of month. Someone passed from liver or pancreatic cancer. ((Person to left of last person responds)) (Husband). Lost daughter years ago. (Great aunt.) To his side? (Yes) I’m going to say No. It is someone younger than you. ...((I did not get response))
Someone is planning a major cookout. (Yes a family reunion) I see 4 - 4 people (No - will be lots of people there) There are 4 links to the event - 4. Connection to Maureen...Mary ...but longer (Margaret) There will Karaoke at this event. (I don’t know) and the 4 sisters ((I think)) will be involved. They are telling you to be supportive.
((In same area)) I’m seeing a massive fall (Uncle in the basement - fell down stairs) Was he shopping? (No) In a store? (No) I’m seeing a big flopping down in a store...feet flying and everything. (That was me) In a store? (Sacks). Were you alone? (Yes) No, you weren’t ...((Pointing upward I think, obviously meaning that one of their deceased loved ones saw it))
Ok. I am seeing Fruit of the Looms ((the commercial, I think)) You know the 4 guys dancing in the fruit costumes. When I see this symbol it means one of two things. One. Someone wore a costume like this or representing fruit . Or 2...that someone ((female) was wearing someone’s Fruit of the Looms. ((Answer from lady in same section)) (I might have done that) ((Laughter)). ((Friend says)) (It was her boyfriend’s. She used to wear them all the time.) ((Laughter)) JE: Stop. You are giving me too much information ((by saying it was the boyfriend)). Connected to Michael? (Oh my god) ((an obvious shocked yes)).
What is the Bill the Bear reference? ((Woman holds up battered gray bear))
((Ok - this was pretty amazing and dramatic and was only three people down from me. So sentimental sap that I am, I was crying by this point, as were a number of others in the audience. So the next notes are scrambled. I think he just reeled them off as additional information and have no idea if they were validated, but think they were)) His sister? Danny? ((I think)) 3 - March or 3rd of month.... Older male still here ....Mom gone.... Stroke..... dealing with collapse of the pool....ripping up of the liner....5 in family.
This was an extremely crude family (Yes)
Kathleen connection? (Yes) Why am I seeing a pancake breakfast? (My husband is home with the kids. I told them he would be cooking them pancakes.) Either he didn’t or they sucked ((Laughter))
I’m seeing a police officer. Ray is the cop. (Cousin married to a cop)
Besides the boyfriend ? ((From the fruit of the loom comments before.)) (Yes)
He has a little boy with him. (I lost a baby when I was 19) You are not connected to the father anymore, but you still have issues about this. (Yes) It happened and no one brings it up (yes)
This all happened courtesy of the Presidential debater down here. Thank you.
11-02-2002, 10:06 PM
Ditto!!! I am so hyped, I can't even think of sleeping, even though I've been up since 2. a.m.
11-02-2002, 10:24 PM
JE: I am seeing a correctional facility connection .. a father figure.. (A man is in jail for murdering my daughter). No .a father figure. Person next to you - May connection to sister ((I think- this was a confusing and disjointed reading that I could not see and hear too well)) Birthday in June. connection to an R name .. and somebody is shot ( ??? Committed suicide by gun) White dog connection - Bijon or poodle..(Beagle) is it fluffy? ((????))
Capicorrn connection - (Father died ) What date? (Gave date in late Dec)-((which is Capricorn)) Person responsible for shooting - (Don’t know - the body ((of her child)) was burned) I’m getting an impact. R? (Robert. Killed in a motorcycle accident) ((confusing here - not sure how these were related - sorry, but it seemed to make sense to the person JE was talking to))
2 children - never made it here They are coming through courtesy of her family ((pointing to someone who was read))
He says his leaving was peaceful ((I think he was referring to Robert here)) even if it didn’t look it. It was if he just went to sleep and left. And he had a phenomenal drink before he left.
Lost another one. K (Katie) This case is closed. Not ongoing investigation. (Yes. But we don‘t know what happened). It will be forever open for you. I am seeing it as the complications of a freak accident. Drugs are involved. They are saying you have to step away from this You have to continue with your life.
11-02-2002, 10:51 PM
Bill...Thanks for the plug today and for taking such excellent notes and sharing them with us. I was also at the seminar and it was absolutely amazing to see John do his thing live. We sat in the center but towards the back. There were just SO MANY people there. Makes me really want to get to the gallery someday. Anyway, the readings were great and I do think John choked up when he talked about the woman who lost her 2-day-old baby. That was the only time I really lost it. The rest of the time I just sat there with my mouth hanging open. He is just so amazing. What a gift, and how wonderful for him to share it with us.
Anyway, Bill...please keep those notes coming. I'm reliving it through your words!
11-02-2002, 10:58 PM
JE: I am getting a Mom - with 6 kids - 4 and 2 - either 4 boys and 2 girls, or 4 girls and 2 boys. ...Heart problems...complications. She passed from 2 different things at the same time...two taken away.. younger male also passed at same time...not her son. ((All the time John was saying this he was pacing up and down the length of the very wide stage, not even looking at the audience after initially pointing somewhere))
Someone says: (She had 4 girls & lost 2 boys) Seeing a big impact (automobile accident) She escorts him - everyone was treated like family by this person. T (Tommy) He there (brother) He is big, but was known as the stringbean. Not fat. I’m seeing muscles. Are you familiar with Saturday Night Live - the I’m Going to Pump You Up skit? I’m seeing that.
Brian or Bryan (yes) Both here (yes) January connection. Strong piano connection (Played classical piano)
Daughter know this family? Sam? (Grandfather) also piano or violin connection (Made pianos)
((John says to himself. I’m losing control again - referring, I think, to Friday night and the fact that the information is coming through very fast and confusing him)
Twin, or Gemini. Sam. No actually it is a twin (Yes)
They all came together - his twin, your brother ..Courtesy of her brother and courtesy of her grandfather.
Is there a Mets connection here? or Mike Piazzio. I’m confused. I am seeing 10-10-220 ((the phone commercial)) A California connection.
Huge, huge business opportunity for this family. ((never followed up))
Over here. ((Note. He is almost always pointing directly at someone when he says this. At one point I don‘t remember which reading, not this one, he directed the microphone person way to the back of the room and then said stop. Now go up 6 rows and the person 7 in (or something like that))
Pointing. Someone passed in a car fire or a truck fire (Man sobbing - Yes. My best friend) It is ironic that you are here because you were dragged here (Man sobs - yes). You are here because you need to hear this. Number one. His passing was very fast. Number two. There was nothing that you or anyone could have done for him. People think they could have, but they couldn’t. (Man sobs: I Know)
((John must have gotten some pizza validation because he said)) Ok- Mike Piazzio. Pizza. I couldn’t figure out why they were not showing me a baseball or the Mets. I was seeing him and the 10-10-220 commercial. Ok That’s how I know I’m with you.
Bill, congratulations on your reading, or partial reading, as the case may be. One thing's for sure, if JE said he was with you, there are some messages there for you!
Thanks for sharing your notes on the seminar. We're enjoying it.
11-02-2002, 11:11 PM
Greta. Thanks. I remember feeling the same way after my first seminar. I was just floored and so jazzed from all of the amazing validations and things John absolutely could not have known. And when I got home and tried to relive it, I could remember about three of them. I was so upset. I wanted to share this incredible experience and had little to say. After the first few hits you just kind of sit there dumbstruck as you realize what you are seeing is real, much to your amazement.
So I decided in the future I would take detailed notes and I did for Baltimore and St. Louis last year. My only concern in doing it is that I am keeping others from sharing their impressions, correcting me, adding on or otherwise commenting. My wife thinks I am crazy for doing it, that I am missing what is going on. And yes I do miss some of the facial reactions and who he is talking to.
But in such a large crowd it is very difficult to see any way, and sometimes hear. I was the one who shouted out "Microphone" at one point when John started to lower it and we couldn't hear. I got an elbow from my wife. :-) But he apologized as he realized what he was doing and it was better from then on.
But by taking detailed notes I am able to relive it and remember so many parts I would forget otherwise. And I hope I can do that for others and let people who have not been there have the experience of what it is like. Heck it is after 12 midnight and I am still pumped from this morning so I probably couldn't sleep anyway.
11-02-2002, 11:39 PM
Okay I have a Wonder Woman thing going on in this section. A wonder woman costume. Like you could pull it out and show me.......((to lady in front row, laughing)) No, not a Wonder bra. ((Laughter))
Woman stands up (My daughter - costume for Halloween) You have a mother that has passed? (Yes) This is for a developing young woman? ((Said with a sly smile, obviously visualizing what she looked like)) 9Yes)
There is an N in this family and there is food - lots of food. (My family is in the food business) ((further validated the food business )) The N? Nora .. Norman? a Grandfather connection (Nick) Daughter has passed (yes) Josephine or Johanna (I’m Joanna) . OK now I know I’m with you.
There was a passing at the beginning of September...early like before the 6th. (Mother and Daughter both passed) Where is Marie? Still here? (Here? No, she is home) No - folks when I say here I mean living, not crossed. ((Laughter)) Ok, she is here? (Yes)
Okay. I have a breast cancer - your mom or her sister - ((pointing)) right near you, Wonder Woman’s mother. ((Woman says yes)). Your sister did not tell you she was as sick as she was. So they found it too late. (yes) Something near her, no 2 things near her freaked her out and she could not deal with it. (yes)
((Something about daughter, pregnancy and baby girl)) This is coming to you courtesy of Wonder Woman’s grandmother. Thank you.
11-02-2002, 11:49 PM
I'm sorry I am so long winded. And I realize that some of it is jumbled. If you have been to a seminar, however, you know that your brain is scrambled by about the 5th reading because there is just so much information coming in. By the last reading you realize you are not going to be read and just want to get out of there and eat and pee.
So I'm going to pack it in for the night. I am only on page 7 of 14 pages. But I remember from last time, as I do this I start to leave out more and more from sheer exhaustion, so the next posts will probably be more condensed.
Hope what I've done so far is readable and gives you a sense of what went on there. Me. I want to hear about Friday night, whcih was supposed to have been wild. :-) And I'd like to know if my notes jibe with my fellow attendees recollections and notes.
I want to thank you for all your hard work. Your notes are not scrambled. I know exactly what you mean when you say your "brain is scrambled" because of all the info pouring in. I have been to two seminars and had a reading at the first. My friend took notes for my reading and as soon as it was over I tried to write down everything I coud think of. After that I was so shocked and amazed that I think I missed the next two readings and floated through the rest of the night. Anyway, at the second one, I struggled with the question of should I take copious notes or stay in the moment and watch every single minute? I voted for the latter but kind of wish I had tried to at least record a little on paper for later. So, in a round about way I am saying thank you for doing this because it helps me remember the feelings and excitement. :clink: to Bill the :angel:
11-03-2002, 02:36 AM
Long winded? No way! I'm hanging on every word. It's really hard to take such detailed notes at seminars, I really appreciate you thinking of everyone here who couldn't go. I'm looking forward to hearing your thoughts about your reading. It must be something to have him point right at you! Soooo, as soon as you're rested, I hope you have pages to go!:D Thanks Bill :king:
11-03-2002, 02:44 AM
Hello everyone! I just wanted to mention that I was also at the Philly seminar today, and Bill and I made plans to meet eachother for the first time, as we enjoy eachother's posts very much.
I am not that great a note-taker myself, so I opted to simply enjoy the seminar to the max, because with over 3,000 people there, I didn't really expect to get read anyhow. Now I'm waiting patiently for Bill to post the notes that he took on his own reading, because towards the end of that reading, I began to relate to quite a few things that John was saying to Bill. But DUH! I completely forgot that the circle of love might be opening up to me and my husband. I went brain dead I guess and forgot about the process.
You see, when Bill called me from the holding room, I was already upstairs and seated. He asked me if I could hold two seats for him, and although there was nothing left in the fifth row, center, with us, I asked a woman a few rows back and to the left of us if she could save the two empty seats next to her until I got back with Bill and Susan. She gratiously agreed to do that.
I went to the escalator and watched hundreds of people go filing by. Bill said they would be in white CAV tee-shirts, and that he was wearing a green jacket. He also said that he was a big guy. Over the next half hour, I asked about seven men in green jackets if their name was Bill, and I finally hit paydirt! :D
I showed Bill and his wife to their seats and spoke to them for awhile. A little later on, they came over to say hi to my husband and our two friends. So we were connected, man! Why I didn't realize this right away, I'll never know.
I was thrilled for Bill when John singled him out for a reading. He doesn't feel that he was able to relate to all that much, but I'm sure that some of what John told him was definitely meant for him, and that his loved one brought through my husband's dad for us.
I won't go into detail just yet about our own validations of what John said, because I'd first like to read Bill's notes and refresh my memory of exactly what John said. But I do know for certain that several of the last things in Bill's reading were for my husband and myself.
I'll check in again tomorrow and see if Bill posted his own reading. If so, I'll add my validations to his. Bye for now!....... :) ......neo
11-03-2002, 07:21 AM
Thanks all who are encouraging me to continue. I never know for sure that people want this much unless you give me feedback. Trust me it is much easier not to do it, or to stop transcribing, then to struggle to recreate it and read my notes and figure out who said what. And if any of you were there and notice mistakes or have things to add, let me know. I can edit the posts to make them more accurate. If you want to do this privately, just e-mail me.
One other note. Neophyte posted here about meeting us and saving us some seats. That was just great and many, many thanks to her. (It is just so great to meet other people from the Board. I walked around a bit before the seminar hoping someone would yell at me because of my CAV shirt, but no one did.)
I did not know who Neophyte was here because on the TVTalk board, she posts as Neofight, which is just so appropriate, I am in stiches. She is even a more regular defender of the faith there than I am (reference the I feel like a missionary post - but don't bump it up or Pam will kill me).
OK. back to making sense out of notes.
11-03-2002, 07:50 AM
Your notes are very accurate. 5 stars!! How great that you took them. The incident where John laughed about the wonder bra was funny, and John turned very red when he realized that right before wonder bra was mentioned he had said to the woman, "pull it out and show it to me". (He meant the lasso that wonder woman carries).
I wish I had seen you. I was right up front, by the stage, in the 3rd row, and looking for "signs" from people from this site, but didn't see any. At one point I did see a yellow smile face balloon way in the back, but it was too far back for me to see who was holding it, and the next time I looked, it was gone. I wore my appreciation pin on my collar, but no one said anything to me, so I assume I never made contact with anyone from here.
The notes are great, because even though you are there, in the excitement of the whole thing, you forget so much of the readings. What a day!! I am still reeling!!
11-03-2002, 08:10 AM
((By the way. My notes are more disjointed from this point on as this is about an hour or so into it and I’m tired. ))
JE: I’m bringing in a younger male ...shot in a robbery...not responsible , but blamed for it.
R. Roger..Rodney.. its weird...This is connected to somebody in this area here, pointing. (Yes)
With an older male, brother in law. An f name ...Phillip, Frank .. ((No response)) On Mom’s side. 3 in family. Or mother in laws . Another male there. boxes a lot of boxes. someone is moving. His mother is still here. Dog hit by a car is with him (no) Yes..with them ((I lost the thread here. It was a confused reading with several things being repeated and John bringing forth more information each time to zero in. It seemed to get resolved, but I missed how.))
((John immediately walks all the way across the stage again to the other side without any hesitation))
OK. I’m getting a Nurse or healthcare practitioner. Or Physical therapist. (I am a physical therapist) There is a b name . Betty or Betsy. Older female crosses. C or K name. ((Both of these are later validated but I missed the names)) Not done with something. Black lab. (Black dog). Son, nephew or grandson. (Nephew) But also wants to make sure we acknowledge the son. The nephew is the reason you are here today.
reference to making toast (Dad) 3 slices, not 2 (yes).((Her Laughing)) Change in occupation within health care field (I’m changing to a Nurse practitioner). They are saying you are too serious...using them as a cop out. There is also a female here - still living, who is being kept at a distance. ((More here I missed)) ((It appears these things are being validated but I am so busy taking notes and he is talking quickly and I can not see. Any help from others who were there to amplify or amend would be appreciated. E-mail me so I can correct or post them))
3 children passed in family. Dad passed . Was a difficult energy. Again , ((?? - Obviously I missed something)), there is some type of interracial, inter-religious, same sex relationship going on here. ((I think related to the sister being kept at a distance)) It is not a big deal . Let it go ((Just so the readers here are clear, this is not John lecturing. This is him passing on what the spirits are saying))
Why are they telling me “The first step is enrolling. The first step is enrolling”? (Well. I’m in the process)....((She hems and haws some)) (I’m taking courses) JE: you have credits here that can be used. ((More attempts at explanation)) But you are not doing this yet. ((She finally admits)) (I’m on the fence.) ((Note - that was a very interesting progression courtesy of John persisting with her spirits on the other side. Started out with her saying “I’m changing professions”, then was “I’m in the process” then the truth “I’m on the fence” )).
They are telling me to tell you to enroll. That is the first step. ((John then talks about moving on is a good thing that the other side wants us to do))
11-03-2002, 08:15 AM
I thought the plug for JEFriends was great!! And even more than that, your notes are exceptional!! Very accurate, picking up the high points, sequential and just all-around perfecto!. What was it with that stage-left section over there!!??!! That area got a lot of readings on Friday and ALSO on Saturday. I left my notebook at home - maybe subconsciously I 'knew' that a pro would be there doing such a good job. I also liked that John brought that lady up on stage..you know, the one with grandparents like Estelle Getty and the Muppet guy who sits up in the balcony!! That was really a happy reading. AND, those of us in the back could actually see the person! The 'wonder(woman) bra" thing was really hysterical. Thankfully there were a lot of light moments inbetween the sad ones...and I think lots of good vibes and healing went on there as well. Is your wife the short lady with the dark hair who had on a white t-shirt with the CAV logo on it? Thank you, everyone, for the anecdotes from Philly. They are really informative, especially since I was there! Neo, I can't wait to hear about your validations. Apparently you were sharing the reading with Bill. Pegasus, where were you coming from? For once in our lives, we drove right into Philly and found the Marriott - no wandering around.
11-03-2002, 08:24 AM
Pegasus214. Yes. It is so frustrating when you know there are several of us there and you don't know where they are. I figured you guys would be right up front. But before the show, there was a lot of milling around up there and I did not feel comfortable parading around in full view of 3,000 people saying "Look at my shirt. I know you are here. You should recognize what this is. Speak to me". :-) I should have though.
Someone who creates these here should make a transfer decal with John Edward Friends.org in very, very big letters on the front so it is easier to see. The sole purpose is to advertise the site and get recognition from others. Sweetness and subtlety are not the point here at these venues. Recognition is.
And in my case, with my girth, I have lots of room on the shirt for very very big letters. :-)
11-03-2002, 08:50 AM
I have never posted here before (mainly a lurker reading what everyone has to say) but I was at the Saturday seminar too. Needless to say, I had 2 hours sleep before we left and I am so grateful that you took notes. Our group did not get read. We were about 5 rows from the stage in the center. Although I thorougly enjoyed this seminar, I must say that the first Philly seminar 2 years ago was much more intimate (only over 1,000 people?? if that's intimate). It was pretty obvious that Philly was going to hold John hostage and not follow the scheduled break and meditation time. There were way too many people there (and on the other side) that were waiting to come through. You would think that 2 1/2 hours is a long time, but when John is on a roll, the time flies by so quickly. The wonder bra thing was hysterical. Also, the fruit of the looms reading. We could not see what was going on back there but I got the feeling when the girl said "wait a minute" that she was checking to see if she was wearing her boyfriends underwear. Not sure though. Hey Bill, by any chance did you count how many readings actually got done. Usually we figure 12 or 15, but this seemed to be a humungous number of readings done on Saturday. I also agree with someone else here who said that it seemed John was particularly sensitive to children who lost children (babies). His comment about how he would loved to have put his son in his mother's arms just wrenched my soul. So my hats off to you Bill for being able to take such great notes. Please continue. I am reliving the experience through you.
11-03-2002, 08:52 AM
Well, I was so lost. It was my first visit to Philly, I'm from northern NJ (about 2 minutes from NY State). I went equipped with maps and directions from "Map Quest". The directions from Map Quest was so inaccurate. It is scary being lost on the Penn. turnpike at 5:30 in the a.m. Especially when I am told that I wasn't supposed to be on the Pa. turnpike. Somehow I got off, and into Philly. Drove around and I don't know how, but found the Marriott. Going home, I was lost again. Those one way streets are brutal. Couldn't find the Betsy Ross Bridge, so I took the Ben Franklyn, thinking "just get me back to Jersey". WRONG! Rode around Southern NJ for 2 hours looking for the NJ turnpike. But---I would do it all again today, if there were a John Edward Seminar. It's worth it!!!!
I sat next to a wonderful young couple who got their tickets from E-Bay and paid a ridiculous amount of money for them from a man in Arizona. It's a shame that their are people out there making money on other people's pain.
11-03-2002, 09:20 AM
Philly was great!!
All I can say is WOW! After seeing JE many times, I am STILL, SO MOVED by the way he makes people feel and for them to truly understand the WHOLE process. I am still taking it all in.
I had the pleasure of meeting ((Heather--new member,Bracken)) and ((AnnieMarie--AnnieB)) and her mom, and it was such a pleasure meeting you. If anyone has the chance to meet any member for the first time at a seminar, it is such a joy to do so because of our connection from this site. (((Friends)))
Deb7073 (from Texas), if you're out there, I was in the lobby waiting 45 minutes, but no luck meeting up with you. :( I hope you and your husband had a wonderful time at the seminar and that you had a safe trip.
(((Bill))) (Atmytv)-----THAT WAS YOU!!!!! I almost fell off my chair when you said, John, I'll post my validations at the JEFriends site....I clapped!! Did you hear it? LOL!! John said, ok, and you can send it in to Bridges also and they'll put it in there :). I just laughed.
3500 hundred people and Bill says.....I'll post my validations on the JEFriends site! *snicker*... That was great!! I did call Pam and told her that.......it was priceless ;) Pefect ending to a great day.
Bill, your reading was excellent. I am so very happy for you and your wife. Was it your "wife" who said to JE, I don't think this is for us? JE said....aaaahhh yes, I do. ;)
Your accurate notes and description of the day are incredible!! Thank you!!! I took notes for the lady who lost her son in the car accident (fell asleep/losses control?), she was two down from me. Her daughter was right behind her. There was another woman directly behind me that was read, I took notes for her also (the egg reference?).
Being in the same area, there were some mesages that I and the people that I was with could validate also. (casper the ghost, the egg reference again?). But of course, we did not say anything for they were being validated by others.
At one point, when the above reading was going on about the egg reference, JE mentioned Rita/Rebecca. The Rebecca was validated. Then JE said Granalgia?. One of the people who came with me her name is... Rita Gramalgia. I leaned over and looked at her.....she did not hear him say Granalgia/Gramalgia? And since the Rebecca was validated, she did not say anything when she heard "Rita".
Bill, if by any chance you have in your accurates notes, at the time of the above reading the Granalia reference, Rita, was being mentioned, PLEASE let me know. I just need to clarify for myself and to know if anyone else heard the name Granalgia-Gramalgia mentioned. It would be deeply appreciated!
Looking forward to reading the rest of the wonderful description of the day and THANK YOU to everyone who posted about Philly. Reading this thread makes me re-live every moment and I would do it again in a heartbeat.
Bringing people to a JE seminar for the first time and for them to witness him, his work and the process in action is so gratifying. They walk away with strength, hope, and a knowing, that is instilled in their hearts.
Alot more people the second day of the seminar, that was confirmed.
For the people who will be at Omaha seminar today--have fun!! If by chance there is a member here that goes by the name Tammy F (from Omaha??).....please email me ;) Thanks.
God Bless everyone.
11-03-2002, 09:26 AM
((John again immediately walks all the way to the other side of the stage))
I have a grandmother and grandfather here. They are very funny. She is like Sophia from the Golden Girls. He is like the older guys from the Muppets who are in the balcony.. They have been together forever - for like 57,000 years. They are fighting and funny. ((directs microphone holder exactly where the pull is coming from. Towards the back. Stop. Okay 6 more rows. 7 seats in...counting))
They were always bringing people over to see them. House was like a big party.
Why am I seeing them throwing meat at each other? (One Thanksgiving she served Chicken instead of Turkey and he threw it at her) They were married for a long time (65 years) There is a joke about him making “woo woo” with one of her friends ((Confirmed)) Also some questions about her? (He was sure everyone was after her). She wore her dresses higher ((John points to his thigh)) and she was older. ((Yes she always wore them that way and he hated it)
Get your mom to tell you the “Blue dress story”. (I know the blue dress story). OK. Spill it. (She went into a casino with this fabulous blue velvet dress on and when the singer came out she was wearing the same dress. My grandmother had to point it out to everyone there). OK. I didn’t think you knew the story. (Oh yes)
Even though they were very funny, this was a very repressed family. (Yes) But they were very generous. (He built houses for all 7 of his kids). But more than that. He was also generous to others. (He used to dress up in a Santa Claus suit and go around to the neighbor hood houses and give the children money.) She also gave ... something about soup. (She made loads of fish head soup. She gave it to everybody.) ((John shudders )) Luckily, I only saw soup.
They have got their boys with them. I don’t like to pick favorites but one was definitely more than the other. One of them died before them. (Yes). Because they are showing me that they were met by one of them.
OK. Your grandfather is telling me I have to go on the other side ((of the room. Points across the stage))..that there is someone there who also knows them. (( Starts over there)). Is there someone over here who knows this family? ((Asks the original woman her name and repeats it.)) ((Woman stands up and says yes)) You know her? (Yes)
((From original woman )) (She is my aunt). You mean you let me struggle all this time and you knew she was here. ((Then says laughingly to person holding the mike)) Liz. Smack her.
((He then tries to communicate with the person on the other side of the room and then back to original side and says something like this is not going to work. Signals original woman to come out of audience and get on stage with him. She hesitates, seemingly because he has not said come on down. He signals again and again with his hands in an unmistakable “come here” signal. She still hesitates. John asks What’s the problem? Liz (microphone woman - in real life, one of the assistant producers on the show) says “She said, You are going to smack her.” John bursts out laughing. Woman comes up on stage and they walk nearer the person on the other side of the room.))
(My dad ((on the other side)) said he would do this) (When he was dying he said he would find a way to communicate with me. I said like Harry Houdini. He said. Don’t worry Honey, You’ll know it is me)
((My notes now say “friend - reason acknowledged” which is drawing a blank for me. Also very disjointed here)) Susan or Stephen. Similar dates. Dec 31st (Died) Seeing bones broken in legs. Your sister passed quickly.
What is the rabbit connection? (We called my older brother that all the time. He was a very fast runner)
Oldest girl.. ((??) There is a Carolinas connection - North or South Carolina - to a sister.
Are you pregnant? (No) Is your sister pregnant? (I hope not) ((Someone else was standing up next to her))
The reason I am saying this is that when I get a feeling in my stomach like a fish out of water, it means that someone is pregnant. And I’m getting that feeling now. T Tracie...(I might be)
((Missed some things here but they all seemed satisfied )) John hugged woman and she left the stage.
11-03-2002, 09:29 AM
I haven't seen Bill mention this from his notes (but I am sure he wrote it down). Sandy Goodman was also mentioned to those that are grieving the loss of a child. John mentioned that "Love Never Dies" would definitely be a good book for them to read. Also someone asked John if he thought maybe his son had inhertied his ability. He said that he had really hoped that he did not but he has since had an astrological chart done on him and it appears that Justin's chart is just about identical to his own. So he made some kind of joke about his relatives (who he does not read for obvious reasons) making appointment for 10 years from now to see Justin. It was just so cute.
11-03-2002, 10:01 AM
I sat next to a wonderful young couple who got their tickets from E-Bay and paid a ridiculous amount of money for them from a man in Arizona. It's a shame that their are people out there making money on other people's pain.
Yes, it is a shame. I must tell my ticket story at Philly.
I had an extra ticket for the Saturday seminar, because a friend was unable to come. I wanted someone special to have the ticket, someone who would really need it, or appreciate it. I had visions of selling it (at face value) to a scalper, who would in turn make $$ from it, which would have infuriated me.
So, I actually walked around the seminar with this extra ticket for an hour and a half........not advertising that I had one I was trying to get rid of, but silently praying that it would be made obvious to me who I should sell it to. I thought to myself, this is silly, I am gonna get stuck with this ticket. If I don't advertise that I have it, who will know?
Well, as my sister in law and I headed to the lobby for a drink, we had just gotten off of the down escalator......there was this lady with several other women who were on the up escalator. The one lady was very loudly pleading......
"Does ANYONE have an extra ticket????"
"I came on a whim......hoping I could find one".......
I thought to myself......well, it can't be any more OBVIOUS than that!
As I heard her plea, I turned around and raised my hand, knowing SHE was the one......
"YES!" I yelled.
"Are you kidding me?" she yelled from the top of the escalator.
"No!" I yelled back, and waved her my way.
She raced down the down escalator (probably would have come down the up one had there not been 100 people behind her). She said to me, (out of breath) and looking puzzled.........
"Did you change your mind????" (about going to see him?)
I said "Of course not!" "I just had a friend who couldn't come" She thanked me over and over, and I knew my prayer had been answered...........there was no way I could have missed her!
And I must also add that, I encountered NO-ONE else that morning looking for tickets. In fact, there were several other people SELLING tickets..........so, just another confirmation, that my ticket was meant to be hers!
I hope she received whatever comfort she came for..........
It made my day.
11-03-2002, 10:01 AM
I am Amazed and in awe...John is one of the most powerful and funny men I've ever seen. I left that seminar with the most peaceful feeling when I left that place.. He has made me want to go back again and again.. I am so happy for everyone who got read and I want to see this again.
11-03-2002, 10:15 AM
Bill, even though we were there your posts were great. I think I prefer a smaller group of people. Couldn't even see the other side of the room. (we were on the right hand side about half way down) I did see a happy face:) balloon but that was about all. We saw Steluna (Diane) and her hubby in the car ,we pulled out after them. I would also like to hear about Friday night's seminar .
11-03-2002, 10:18 AM
Another friend who attended with me said that she knew someone who would be there and that he paid A LOT of money for the tickets and that the guy who sold him the tickets said that they were "third row" seats!! The seminar was General Admission!! :(
I asked her if she knew where he had gotten the tickets from. She did not know, but is finding out for me.
We cannot stress it enough, please be careful on buying tickets......it is truly sad that people want to profit on other peoples grief and succeed.
At the last minute, my friend could not make it due to her husband not being well. So I had an extra ticket about an hour before leaving to the seminar. Once in the lobby, besides meeting up with some people from here, my goal was to give this extra ticket to someone. A man, walking by said, does anyone have an extra ticket? I said, I do! He said, how much and said I do not want anything. He said could you please hand it to my wife, so I did. She later came over to me and gave me hug and said thank you very much. It was just meant to be. I hope they had a wonderful evening.
11-03-2002, 10:30 AM
I "second" all that you posted above! Philly was just awesome!
I still think it "no coincidence" that I found you 10 minutes before the event started, all because I was heading for a bathroom break!! The funniest part was, I never even GOT to the bathroom, and didn't even remember I had to go until the event was over!!!!
Tickets for Friday and Saturday seminar...$300.00
Food, travel expenses, etc. ...$100.00
Meeting new ((((FRIENDS))))... PRICELESS ;)
11-03-2002, 10:31 AM
Annie and Cyndy! I loved your extra ticket stories! I bet you were showered with prayers that day! How great that you both found people who wanted a ticket so badly that they just showed up like that. :D I love to hear that kind of stuff!.....neo
11-03-2002, 10:34 AM
:jumper:Oh Bill, thank you, thank you, thank you for your WONDERFUL notes. This was my first seminar (2 year dream finally came true). I didn't need a reading, just wanted to see John in action. I loved it, but had forgotten so much. I am reliving the whole thing now with your notes. I, too, was very excited when I heard your comment about John Edward "Friends." My friends all looked at me because they know how much this website means to me. The lady that went up on the stage was a "Lutz." The only reason I remember that is because I thought John was coming to me in the other section (I knew a Lutz that is deceased). So keep on posting, I am LOVING it.
Steluna: I too loved when John said about putting his baby in his mother's arms.
Anne: I loved your ticket story. A man kept coming around when I was in line asking for tickets--he's the only one I saw.
EVERYONE WHO ATTENDED: ISN'T JOHN WONDERFUL?!!!!! ;) Can't
wait for the next one.......
11-03-2002, 11:22 AM
Sat - 9th reading.
Ok. ((Pointing)) I’m coming to you, the woman in red. I have a husband who died. Cancer in the throat area. Just had surgery. Originally thought he had polyps but found cancer (Yes)
Who has the General, Sergeant, Lt name? the title name? Marcus (Mark) No. Morris - a unique M name.
(Marcus Aurelius) What ? (She repeated the name) (It was a nickname for my son from him) A nickname from the father for the son? (Yes) OK. He was 10 when he died (9) He is telling me 10. (Birthday was the 10th)
((Switching to another person, I believe))
I am seeing going to Casinos, slots - this woman won $5,000 or $10,000. It is on the wall as a winner. (My sister) Just passed. (yes) And this was on the wall...like her claim to fame (Yes)
Someone is having ((garbled))............Having a boob job. And she is not in her 20s. ((Missed response)) Leonard. (uncle). Tonsils operated on (Nephew). I’m seeing a #2. Operated on twice (Yes)
Is there a Phillipino doctor involved? Because I am seeing a Phillipino or Indian doctor who is advocating a very aggressive form of treatment. This is cancer, but not cancer. I’m not sure what I’m seeing. Cancer, but not cancer (Yes it is very aggressive, very quick)
I am seeing lacerations in the gum (pointing to his gums) as a result of treatment (Yes)
Thank you. Moves to his right.
11-03-2002, 11:50 AM
((John hesitates, then)) Years ago I was having a private session and I got the feeling from a woman that she earned her living through sex. It turned out that she was a sex therapist. But this was definitely not what I was thinking. Well, ((Smiling)) I am getting the same feeling again. ((he was definitely looking in one direction but was discretely not pointing.))
((He waited a bit to see if anyone would own it)) ((Then looking sheepish and slyly humorous.)) OK. Lets put it this way. This person has a musical background. And she liked being on the stage. ((Pause )) Maybe a stripper, an exotic dancer. ((Bigger Pause)) And he says you are good. ((Laughter)) ((Woman in that area stands up and says )) (My sister was an exotic dancer and a masseuse. Then later she was a masseuse only.) Your dad has passed? (Yes) And he was not happy about this...it was frowned upon. (yes) The 17th is important. He fixes it as a big deal (My son passed) Would your son have known him? (Yes) ((Garbled)) Your father says he is a better Grandfather there then he was a father here. (I hope so). I’m getting a pink rose from your son. (explains about pink rose symbol)
I’m seeing a group tattoo. ((Loudly and immediately followed by )) (Oh my god)
I’m seeing a Casper the Ghost reference ...the movie. (Ghost?) ((The Movie)) No that’s not it. I’m seeing Casper. And when I see Casper the Ghost, it either means Casper, or in this case ...my friend Andrew and a song from that movie ((sings)) “Remember me this way” That’s the feeling I’m getting.
I am seeing a t-shirt with a number on it (Yes) A school store I can’t tell how old this person is - whether he is 2 or 35, but this store has something of his.
Michael ..some connection to him. Seeing 17 again. His passing is not it. Something about donated organs. Did you donate his organs? (No.) JE; (( Shocked )) No? (They asked me to. I said no) Twice? (Yes)
His passing was delayed so people could get a chance to say goodbye. He was waiting for someone to come and see him ((woman confirms and explains))
After he saw him, he died. This was necessary. It was not his fault. He was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. This was in the headlines and then suppressed. A lot of attention and then it went away. ((Confirmed, I believe))
You had a premonition of his passing. (Yes) Several times (Yes, in the weeks before it happened) You also got involved with another mother doing something because of this. (Yes) He is thanking you for doing that. It is a gift to him.
((John commenting)) You are on a long journey of grief. Sometimes it is okay and sometimes it sucks.
The other younger male - there is a large photo - blown up. ((woman cried out))
Rita - R - (Rebecca, his girlfriend) The police think he fell asleep at the wheel (yes) I see him losing control because of the road. He is not taking on responsibility for this. He seems alert - trying to correct this. I am not seeing him as asleep and then wakened. ((Woman next to me speculates to me - maybe a flat tire - a blow out)
((to same area, but different person )) Is there a reason I am seeing someone throwing eggs. ... and putting eggs in a pillow? This is not just Halloween stuff... more like a food fight. ((Woman at end of aisle says that her son does. Explains in obvious dismay that he puts them in the sofa cushions, everywhere.)) ((John explains that Rebecca, from the previous reading was the lead in for this)) ((Garbled)) Son is a twin. Lost him Rebecca opened the circle of love that allowed him to come through.
Does the dog have an issue? Like he forgets to go outside? (yes) Keep your son away from the dog. And away from Garbage cans. ((Woman confirms))
Peter, petey , patrick. passed ((Garbled))
((Different woman - I think)) Referring to you as “The Administrator”. (I rule the world) They are serious. Not that you just administer things. They are showing me Napoleon. (I am an attorney) Be careful going to Canada ...on a road trip. Check your tires, your battery.. that kind of stuff. (I live about 20 minutes from the Canadian border so I make frequent trips there. We have one coming up).
This is not your practice ((referring to her being an attorney)). ((She says yes it is)) They are telling me you do it on the side. (yes) And that if you really put your energy into it, it can be huge. (They used to tell me that)
11-03-2002, 11:55 AM
Sorry for busting in on your notes, MyTV, which I have been reading like a hungry wolf.
I was getting ready to click from page four to page five when I started thinking what *I* would send to my husband if I had crossed and were trying to get him to recognize me.
I was thinking I would send him some reference to Russel Crowe, and maybe something from "Gladiator".... we had just sat through an awful TV edit of it last night... ( I am a real admirer of RC; I recently found out my sister's SO's brother is his agent- It's insane but I find it very pleasing to be less than the usual six degrees of separation) And then your notes bring up "Marcus Aurelius" right when I am thinking about that!
I wouldn't bring it up but for the fact there have been so many little coincidences with this board recently... sometimes I think its being used to give me a head's up, or make a connection.
11-03-2002, 12:22 PM
And if it is someone trying to make a connection, I have an idea who it is.
Marcus Aurelius, in the movie Gladiator, is Emperor of Rome, but in the movie his principal role is that of powerful father figure.
My father-in-law was such a patriarch,( even a physical resemblance to the move character) and in my family there is a son (who was born with a cleft lip and palate) who has "issues" similar to that of Commodus, especially with regard to rivalries for his father's attention and approval, issues of succession and inheritance. There has been some bad blood and even a bit of treachery on his part related to this intense need to "measure up" and have the love and approval of the father figure.
My husband is very much the gladiator - but I don't want to rattle on with superfluous detail.
Just this is still a family issue, and if my father-in-law is on the other side, he would be aware of and concerned with the difficulties of the brothers.
11-03-2002, 12:37 PM
JE: I have a brother who committed suicide. It was an overdose. There were toxins in the body. It is over here. ((Pointing)) ((At this time several people where he was pointing tried to grab the reading)) John would listen, then say Was it a suicide ? ( No ) No. This was a suicide.
((Next person)) Did he have toxins. (No. Alcohol) No. Let me repeat folks. Listen to what I am saying. ((and repeats the basics)) ((Finally a woman claimed it.)) ((John then confirming.)) There is an October.. a 10 connection to this. (It happened last Friday) He was met by others there.
This was his 2nd or third attempt. (2nd I know of). This was not really suicide which implies intent...more mental illness (yes). There was also mutilation involved, like he pulled out his eyebrows or ((missed whatever he said)) (yes)
You have to know that it was not your responsibility to fix this. There was nothing you could do.
Others are also feeling very guilty because there was a big argument the day before about how to deal with the situation and then it happened. (yes)
You could not fix it. He would not go for counseling. (No) And I don’t think he would take his pills (No, he didn’t)
Michael (Nephew) J (Husband, son and Grandfather) OK I was just making sure this was the right family.
He had additional issues with his medication mix. He did not intend to commit suicide
11-03-2002, 01:02 PM
"There was also mutilation involved, like he pulled out his eyebrows or ((missed whatever he said)) (yes) "
Right, Bill. John indicated like his chest area suggesting that the fellow used to scratch himself badly or something. More of the self-mutilation stuff which it seems the brother-in-law was into.....neo:(
11-03-2002, 03:35 PM
It's wonderful to read all your posts about the seminar. Bill and I have been brain-occupied by nothing else since we left the seminar. We're ignoring our parrot, who is giving us real grief for that today. Talked endlessly until late at night about "our" reading, (which we'll tell you about as soon as Neo and we get all the validations straight), had trouble sleeping; done NOTHING today but deal with all of this. So, it helps that you want the info Bill took down.
I don't take notes at John's seminars - I need to watch him and drink it ALL in - only about our own reading, I took some notes - but many of the things Bill forgot or missed from other's readings, I remember. If any of YOU were read, and you have questions, let me know - I may be able to fill in some blanks for you. I don't want to spend MORE time on that if someone doesn't really need to know!
If I'd known you all wanted to meet each other at the seminar I would have done something about it! I made our T-shirts before the St. Lewis seminar, and not a single person said a thing about them! Many people asked about ours Sat., but no one from this list approached us. For the future - it's easy to do something so we can all find each other - just mention it - I'll run with it, if I'll be there!
BTW, I joined and posted to this list a while back, but it got too time consuming - I'm on 2 other lists that mean a lot to me, too. I need to work sometime! And I work from home - so it takes REAL control not to fall into the computer and NEVER work!
Instead, my husband, who IS as nice and sweet as he seems, (well, except for when he drives me crazy...but we're still very much in love, so...), ignores me and our household and our marriage to be with you guys! :lwink: I have to drag him, kicking and screaming, out of his chair and away from his computer (we each have one) quite often!
So, I'll be on for a while today, I'm sure, but I intend to NOT get roped in!
BTW, Neo is really pretty, much younger looking and acting than she could possibly be, warm and down-to-earth - in a word - everything you would want her to be. I'm honored to have been able to meet her, and happy about Bill's connection to her here that made that possible.
And to the guy who wanted to know if I was short and dark-haired, :jumper: OK, so 5' 2" isn't tall, but - I have lots of friends who are shorter than I am... :lwink: And I'm a REDHEAD, and it's pretty light - really carrot-topped. Listen, I spend a LOT of money to have this hair color - get your haircolor ducks in a row, please!:D Humph, "dark-haired," unbelievable...
"Talk" to y'all later.
11-03-2002, 03:46 PM
I'm looking forward to your account - these readings seems to be a really powerful experience for folks who get them.
The philly seminar positively vibrates off the page (thanks, MYTV for all the hard work it took to share). I almost feel as though I were there, not getting a reading but feeling like I got one of those "secondary" messages JE talks about (see above).
I'll be on the lookout for your "reading story." :)
11-03-2002, 04:06 PM
I am still so happy from yesterday...I was really excited when I heard Bill say he would post on here I elbowed my mother and I was like that's the message board I just joined...I was looking around to see if I saw anyone from here but being new on here and all I don't really know what you guys look like..I was wearing a purple and blue sweater...and cast on my right leg...with my trusty cane (only till thursday I hope) and we were sitting second row on the left hand side...I was able to make eye contact with John several times and it was an amazing experience...Mom and I are ready to go again and hopefully meet some of the great people from here. You have all made me feel very welcome.]
11-03-2002, 04:31 PM
I remember seeing someone in a great purple-ish sweater with a cast on one leg and a cane! You must not have noticed me and Bill. We both had on white, long sleeved T's with our CAV logos on them. Bill's a big guy, and he's about 5'10", but always seems taller to everyone, and he's...um...greying/whiting and is otherwise hair-challenged... I'm shorter, but NOT THAT SHORT !!! at 5' 2", and a redhead. You know where we were sitting - John sort-of read Bill as his last reading.
11-03-2002, 04:56 PM
Hee hee, how many seminars have you seen?
From reading this board, it seems like many enjoy his seminars and follow him as he tours (his own following of
"deadheads"? :) )
I'd love to go to one but have to live vicariously.
This time of year I always feel short (I'm 5'7"). The sons and daughters of Yankee captains of industry and their model wives have just returned to campus. They tower into the clouds, with willowy limbs and fabulous boots. Mean height for the young ladies must be at least 5'9" or 5'10". :)
11-03-2002, 05:10 PM
The Philly seminar was our 4th. We went to DC and Baltimore - over a year ago, I think, and then to St. Lewis. We went out there because our son lives there, so we got 3 tix, and combined JE with a visit to him. He liked it a lot!
Oh, I HATE those tall, willowy women. Something I always wished I could be - knowing that I need to accept my capsule for what it is - and being unable to do that. But I can blame all of that on my mother, of course!
Hi Susan, is Bill going to change his name to "atmypc" ? :) I know I spend more time at my pc than my tv. :D
11-03-2002, 05:44 PM
:jumper: :jumper: I went on Friday got there at 12:45 with about 10 peeps in front of me. I think we had a good time talking and joking, waiting until the time they took us upstairs.
He looked so comfortable in jeans, shirt and his leather, even the glasses which threw me off.
I ended up sitting right in the middle in the second row (first was reserved but no one sat there so I had a clear view of him. He is truly amazing. Anyone who doesn't believe should have when they left.
Actually, I looked for "plants" to see if there was any, just in case anyone asked and of course there wasn't any.
I loved when he went to his left and kept up with the one reading from the little girl and couldn't get a connection for about 10 min. and then finally it came through. I will continue to watch him and if he comes back I will definately go again.
PS I also loved that he took no break, just kept drinking the water and joking, has a great sense of humor and is adorable and better looking in person, lol
11-03-2002, 06:00 PM
Thanks so much for the great note taking. It is so neat that you can compare notes with others that have been there.
And welcome to all the new members:)
Kathy (a not so willowy New Englander:D )
11-03-2002, 06:06 PM
The setting: The time was just a little after 12:59PM. I had just looked at my watch because John’s assistant had just told him their time was basically up. John was clearly tired as he had a very taxing show the night before and had been going non-stop this morning for two and one-half hours. I mentioned to Susan, my wife, that the audience also was very restless. None of them had eaten since probably 8AM. Some not since 6 or 7 am. Most had not been to the bathroom. And he had been answering questions along with readings so it was clear that it was ending. So most of the energy was gone from the room, I thought.
He then answered one other question I think, then came across the stage and said something like I’m over here in this area. Then he pointed directly at me. I was probably 25 rows back and there was a cross aisle one row in front of us. So I was pretty visible. I, of course, did not think the reading was for me but for someone in the many, many rows behind us.
But I was staring at this finger pointed directly, and I mean directly, at me. It was very strange. I did not respond. But then he said “I am with the gentleman in the white shirt with the glasses “ and that was clearly me. So his assistant came over and handed me the microphone. My wife tells me I had this startled but pleased look on my face. I was thrilled.... wondering why I was getting a reading, but thinking how sly it would be of my Dad to wait for the very end and sneak in rather than fight the hoard who had been trying to get to John for the last 2 1/2 hours.
Unfortunately, John then started to speak and I knew I was in trouble right away because things were not immediately clicking for me. As far as I have been able to reconstruct it, it went like this.
I have a father figure or older brother. (Yes) But it was not really a father. This would be someone like a father, but not a father. (No) Do you have an older brother who has crossed? (No) There is an insurance connection here. (No response) ((Going through my mind is that I do not have an older brother, cousin, or friend that has passed, that I would see as a father)) ((I wait for him to modify insurance to include some other aspect of financial services. My father was an accountant. I am one. My son is a financial planner)) ((he doesn’t))
((I finally mutter, feebly)) (Well I used to sell insurance) ((I probably also say something like:)) (But I really don’t think this is for me) John of course laughs and says: You used to sell insurance but don’t think there is an insurance connection there. ((I continue to be non-helpful))
((John, now realizing he is with a total idiot, asks)) Who came with you? ((I hand the mike to my wife to John’s obvious pleasure and relief.))
John repeats the “father figure or person like an older brother who has crossed” and to my surprise my wife responds (yes). ((John now is saying more but I am driving her crazy by asking “who”. She tries to brush me off and not answer so she can listen to John. I, of course, completely ignore her protestations and press her until she finally in exasperation blurts out “Eddie” to me, and it goes out over the microphone. Away from the microphone she says Eddie would have seen himself that way, which I realize is true. ((Eddie is her stepfather who was 12 years older than I am.)) John then admonishes her for giving a name. He tried to get her to validate the insurance thing, I think, but gets nothing more, so he goes on. ((The following answers are Susan’s... the intelligent, responsive one with the microphone))
Now the rest of this is not necessarily in chronological order, because by this time we were both in such a stressed state, we’d stopped writing anything.
John says “I’m getting brain disease (yes) ((Her biological father died of lung cancer that presented first in his brain.)) I am getting a person in a wheelchair for someone who does not really need it. (Yes) ((Her mother)) ((I thought he said “passed” and her mother is still living, so I am doubting Susan’s answer here. Later, we realized that my mother used a wheelchair in the last months of her life, but it was just for safety – she could still walk.)) A C or K connection (yes) ((my sister who is living is named Carolyn)) ((But John didn’t say to say hello, or to acknowledge or anything. He mentions just the letters. We don’t know why.))
Someone has a rash and you need to check on it (yes). ((She is thinking her mother who had a problem over a year or so, or me, because I’ve had itching on my arm)) I see a real estate opportunity coming up in 2 or 3 places (Real estate, a condo or timeshare) it looks like a good thing. (Great) ((I don’t think so, but I don’t know what is coming up in the future and I would be delighted to have a good thing happen.))
I am getting a T - Tom. And a baby, a 9 pound baby (No) A post office connection. Handling of mail west of here... I’m getting a Jack.... Post office post office post office.((He said it three times))
((By this time both Susan and I are completely bewildered because none of this, absolutely NONE of it REALLY applies to us, we’ve been stretching on every item we’ve validated, and we have been either unresponsive or answering, “No”.)). (I mumble something about being really sorry but I just don’t think this reading is for us, and Susan says to John that we don’t think this is really for us.) John answers, “I think it is.”
He says there is an Alexander and a Dolly, as in Dolly Madison ice cream – maybe it’s a connection to ice cream – or a DL connection. Then he brought up Tom and the 9-pound baby again ((no validation from us.))
Another person who was there (Neo) says he said Dolly again, then Dillon then DL again. He said Alexander, Alexandria, Alexis. ((We remember none of this. I know there were people behind us waving their hands and trying to get his attention, since we were such obvious duds. But John stuck with us until I finally apologized and said that I probably just have psychic amnesia, and if I figure out the answers I would post them on JohnEdwardFriends.com. John said, “There you go! Also send them into Bridges ((His only occasional newsletter))
He then thanked us and proceeded to close out the day.
Now, Susan and I have talked about NOTHING else for over 24 hours now. AND, we’ve been emailing a lot with Neo. Let me put the upshot of that into my next post – but just remember one thing – Neo saved seats for my wife and me. She had a nice woman put her coat over 2 seats to save them for us. And then when we arrived spent time with us there at the seats. So, the plot thickens!
11-03-2002, 08:42 PM
Susan and I were in shock on the drive home. I had been read, it seemed. But it sure didn’t feel that way. Instead I felt like I had been kicked in the stomach. Not exactly the way I expect the experience to feel. And certainly not the way others who have been read described it. :-) And why? If we were read, Why? What lessons were we supposed to get from this? From our past experience with John, we knew that the other side usually came through for a reason.
First. Was the reading for us?
John seemed to think so, even when I questioned it later. And he certainly singled me out. He got validations from us on the insurance, the father-like figure, the wheelchair, the brain tumor, and the rash. Susan had blurted out the name, to shut me up, so John did not try to validate a name. Why should he? Why wouldn’t John accept the fact that he was supposed to be with us? So he then brought through a lot of other information that wasn’t validated. It was late; I acknowledged the possibility of psychic amnesia, so he knew he was dealing with someone who had at least watched his show and knew that such things were possible - that everything does not always get validated right there. So he did not then make sure that it all fit. It is not his fault. He had obviously been right-on all morning.
Why do we question it?
I do not have an older brother figure that has passed, especially that relates to the insurance connection. But, say you; you validated the insurance connection. Well, yes but it was very weak. I did sell insurance for maybe 9 months, but it was never a significant factor in my life, certainly nothing that I would be identified by. Susan’s stepfather would see himself as an older brother type figure to me. But just because he is the only one we can think of that fits that bill does not make it a connection by any means. And there was nothing that followed up his appearance, if it was he, to establish that. I was not in insurance before he died and I am not now, so it makes no sense that he would use that for a validation.
I was sure that the wheelchair reference was to someone passed and I realized later that my mother kind of fits that. But for her to also make a cameo appearance without any other corroborating evidence again is not logical. So the basic stuff that came through first to set the foundation is very weak, very questionable.
Are we now stretching to try to make it fit?
To make it fit? No. To hopefully find a connection, yes. We know how the process works. If he connected with a distant cousin who died of brain cancer and was trying to get a message through to his mother, my cousin, great. Or if it was the uncle (who died last week) of a kid who works in the same place I do, who was using me to get to him, fine. Or even if it were my recently deceased mother-in-law, who hated my guts, using me to get a message to my ex-wife, I would laugh, but be cool with that. We are both open to it being real and there being a purpose for it. Their purpose for coming through does not have to coincide with our purpose for being there. We might be just the conduits for an important message for someone else. I see trying to make those connections as very different from stretching the facts to make them fit.
What about the things you completely did not understand?
We think we have a possible logical explanation for those. Neophyte (Jackie) who posts here had saved us a seat. We have admired each other’s posts on the TV Talk board and she saved sets for us several rows behind her. She had her coat on the chairs and came over and spent some time there with us before the show. I was very clearly visible and noticeable to John. So did one of her relatives use that to come through? You be the judge.
John said there was a Post office connection. In fact, he said it three times. Jackie works for the post office. Her husband works for the post office. His dad works for the post office. Her husband has a connection out west in the post office.
John mentioned Jack = Jackie. Her maiden name is Alexander. Her daughter’s name is Dolly. Phil’s dad is Tom (which I don’t know if I even mentioned was one of the things John said). Her daughter is expecting a baby. Is this a heads up about it being 9 pounds?
Aren’t you stretching here? Maybe. I’m not sure. If you have watched John for long, you know that stranger things have happened. The other side sometimes uses the weirdest ways to come through. Why? Because they want to, and they can! Sometimes they are invited and Eddie would be the type to do that. And sometimes they just jump in, especially if the person being read is having a hard time making sense of what is coming through, as we were.
Aren’t you just trying to please John Edward here?
Skeptics think that we believers worship John Edward and all we want is either our 15 minutes of fame or to please him. And, as a result, we will answer yes to anything. Trust me, pleasing him is the last thing you are thinking about while being read. You are thinking only about your loved ones; what John is saying; and trying to identify who it is and what they are referring to. If you are not understanding the information coming through, as we were not, you try to be respectful to John because you are mindful of the effort he is putting forth and what you have seen him do for others. But please him? Absolutely not.
I was aware that I was letting John off the hook in my closing remarks when I was really pretty sure he was not with us. But that was because it was very late and it was clear that resolving this would take a great deal of time and energy on everyone’s part. Had it been earlier in the seminar, I think I would have been more forceful in saying “I would love for this to be for me, but I don’t think it is.” While there can frequently be difficulty in initially establishing who John is supposed to be with, almost all of the subsequent information that comes through is right on target and validated, as you have read here. In our case, none of it fit, even though it was on-target for Jackie and there was a clear connection there. But we did not learn that until later.
Based on your validations, lots of people probably think your reading was good. And is it not likely then that that is true of most of the other validations we have read about here? That if you examine them carefully, they are very questionable?
No. I don’t buy that for a minute. If they had done a post-analysis with us, it would have been a disaster, filled with many, many doubts. Think about the post analysis segments you have seen. There may be unanswered questions, but total doubt? Not very often. And I have read enough testimonials and posting by others that have been read to know that our experience is absolutely atypical.
So where are we left?
At this point I would like nothing better than to find out that three rows behind us there was someone who can identify with every aspect of what was said. That would mean we were not read, even though John was pretty sure he was with us.
Based on Jackie’s validation of all the stuff that came through in the latter part of the reading and John’s clearly targeting me, maybe, however, it was for us, and our relatives on the other side did a really poor job of helping us make the connections.
Or maybe we were the ones that were at fault and a week from now; we will get the big “Oh my God”, kick ourselves, and post it with much chagrin and joy here.
One thing I know for sure is that John did a wonderful job all morning and we enjoyed every minute of it, except for the last 5 or 10 minutes, that is :-)
11-03-2002, 09:21 PM
I just read your last post.
I think it will be resolved in the fullness of time, though it is frustrating now.
I think you may be right that this information is MEANT to make sense later.
I want to jump in here with suggestions, which you may or may not find helpful, based mainly of other stories of validations that "kicked in later" for folks read by JE.
Check names and dates on your insurance policies. Perhaps you will find a surprise that makes information you received fall into place.
You did sell insurance for a time. Did you have a boss or partner at the time, or were you on your own?
What kind of insurance did you sell? Were you a broker, or was it one particular companies insurance you sold. Perhaps there is a clue in the name of the company.
What did Eddie do? did HE have an insurance connection?
11-03-2002, 10:15 PM
In the beginning before the readings, after the first one, and then near the end, John entertained us with stories about the work and his experiences. He also answered questions. I include here a few that you may not have heard.
How can you walk between the worlds, so to speak?
I really don’t have any difficulty there. I recognize that I can be wrong. It is not about me but the process. You believe in the process and you do the best you can.
Do you hear much from them about heaven or hell?
No. I hear absolutely nothing. I have never been told “Oh this is great. I got my wings and halo this morning and am scheduled for harp lessons this afternoon. I also never hear any one say ”well, its okay, but it is a little hot”. I do believe you go to different levels over there depending on what you have learned and how you have lived your life here. So maybe we could call the lower levels there some form of hell. I prefer to think of them as dropouts...that they didn’t learn the lessons they needed to learn yet.
How do you relate to the religious issues?
As you know, I’m Catholic and I have a very large number of friends in many different religions. So I really don’t have those kinds of problems. Having said that I have an uncle who still does not speak to me.
I think that what I am doing is dealing with energy. I am painting a portrait for you of that energy. How you frame it is up to you.
Tells wonderful story of the day he read his first nun, his fears about it, and how she turns out to be a bereavement counselor who later invites him to her church on a regular basis to hold sessions for parishioners and clergy. Throws in a fun little story about how at one of these sessions he compared it to a “seance” and got elbowed in the ribs by the nun, who whispered “spiritual gathering”.
The same day he read the nun, he read his first priest. That day was instrumental in letting him come to terms with the Church and what he did.
He also said when they find out that the entire meditation that he does is with the rosary; it helps him with new people.
Told a story about once being fearful for his life.
Many years ago he used to do readings in people’s basements for groups of 15 to 20. Once he was at a woman’s house and the last reading of the evening was for the hostess who had invited him there; John started out with “I have your mother coming through” followed instantly by the woman saying “Does she hate me” . John says “Why would you say that?” The woman answers “Because I killed her”. John: I am quickly realizing at that point that nobody has any idea of where I am. But I put on my best contemplative look (he illustrates) and I said “How did you do it?”
It turns out she had helped her mother to die when she was very ill. After a little discussion about the issues involved, and discussions he had with his mother about it, he says “the reason I am telling you that, is because... ”. He then leads into the first reading, which if you look back, involved a woman with those kinds of guilt feelings about the liquid morphine she allowed the hospital to give to her mother.
11-03-2002, 10:25 PM
SarahW. Thanks for your input. This is, of course, exactly what we have been doing since about 2PM yesterday. I am totally open to it having a far-out connection, like a collegue of mine back then who died recently and does not realize that I don't know that he died.
11-03-2002, 11:25 PM
Okay, now that atmytv has posted about his experience, I'll just recap a bit and then we'll be done. As atmytv and I have said, we met eachother for the first time on Saturday morning. Luckily, I was able to save a couple of very decent seats for his and his wife, Susan, probably around the 12th row or so. I was in the 5th row, Bill, and you weren't all that many rows behind me.
Anyhow, John was already into the Q & A and then did that reading with the suicide, and was on his way back to center stage because the readings were really over by this time. But then he stopped and singled Bill out just the way he said he did, and began reading him and his wife. First of all, when that happened, I was ecstatic for them both, and I listened to what was coming through, but did not take any notes at all.
By this time, everyone, including John, was a bit drained from the long morning. After making a one or two validations, I heard that Bill did seem to be hesitant or unsure about a couple of things, and after a while, although I still continued to listen, it was in a kind of detached way. I had heard John say the name Alexander, which neither Bill nor Susan could validate. Alexander is my maiden name, but I was taking it to mean a first name. After a moment, when no one validated Alexander, he said, maybe Alexandria or something? Fine, whatever. I certainly was not thinking anything at that point.
Then he started talking about a lot of post office connections. I think I confused you, Bill. I don't work in the P.O., but my husband is in P.O. management. My two brothers are also P.O., as is my good friend Jill who was there sitting next to me with her husband. My husband's dad, who is dead about seven years or so, also worked in the P.O. His name was Tom. John had mentioned a Tom. I can't validate the nine pound baby, but my older daughter is due in February, so we'll just have to wait that one out. lol
John mentioned Dolly a couple of times. Since our daughter was born, my husband and I have always referred to her as Dollie when speaking of her to eachother, although that is not her name. Again, no one validated Dolly, but John was still getting it, so he asked about Dillon, or some D-L name. No one said anything. In my head, I acknowledged that the name Dolly works for me, but then, I was not thinking ME here. In my mind, this was Bill and Susan's reading.
Now you guys know that I watch every "Crossing Over" show, and have for two years now. I KNOW that people who come together to be read are usually read together. It starts with one, then jumps to another in the group. Why was I not thinking in those terms then? When John again went back to Dolly, my husband and I were starting to look at eachother and made a few comments under our breath about how Dolly means something to us, and then BAM! It was just beginning to dawn on us (a big DUH here!) and just then, John says the name Jackie! OK! That's it! At that point I was raising my hand, waving both arms, and jumping out of my chair!!! That's me! I know them! (Bill and Susan) It's me!
My husband was laughing at me doing that in front of 3,500 people. Anyone who knows me knows that is NOT me! rofl But too late! Other people were also raising their hands for last minute questions, and I could not get John's attention. The seminar was officially over, and I had lost my chance to get read. After all, I could not blame John! He really did try. He gave me.....
Tom - my deceased father-in-law
Alexander - my maiden name. Tom knew my parents, Mr. and Mrs. Alexander
Post Office - many references to the P.O. that Bill couldn't validate
Dollie - My husband's dad knew about the name Dollie
Jackie - For gosh sake, he came right out with my own names, first and maiden
When nobody validated these things, they stopped, and that was the end of the reading. I could KICK myself. Had I been sitting next to Bill, I would like to think that I would not have taken that long to recognize what was happening. Thinking about it now, I can't believe that I did not realize that the circle of love that began with Susan's deceased step-dad and possibly Bill's mom had opened to include my own father-in-law, Tom. I was not expecting it, and didn't see it coming in time to get the actual reading, and I really feel badly about it because we all, myself, my husband, and our two friends, all had deceased loved ones whom we would have loved to hear from. (sigh)
So that's the story. I came THAT close to getting a reading from John. Had Bill's reading been the first one of the day, and not the last, it may have worked out differently and John may have been able to spend a little more time on trying to work it out. Unfortunately, that wasn't the case. I do feel good even to have finally been able to make some sort of a connection to things that John said, because unlike Instig8R, who makes most every reading fit, (ahem) I can honestly say that this was the very first time ever that I was able to relate in this way to a reading. The only time. So I'm thrilled about that, but sad that it was aborted before the reading was actually completed.....neo :(
11-04-2002, 07:05 AM
Sounds like you really did get a reading.;) Maybe they were making a "candid appereance" just to let you know .We were on the right hand side of the room so we really didn't hear alot of the replies.
11-04-2002, 07:37 AM
I know things got rushed at the end of the seminar but those validations sure belong to you!! I wish I had seen you jump up and yell...I love when people do that! Too bad it was in the last moments of the seminar; I think you would have gotten a lot more if there had been more time. JE worked really hard, I thought, right up to the very last second. You gotta like that in a person. I am delighted you guys got a read....!!!! It's exciting for all of us!!
Diane:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
11-04-2002, 08:05 AM
Hi, chargeit2him and Steluna! I really do believe the second part of Bill's reading would have been for us had we been able to validate those few pieces of information just a wee bit earlier. As it happened, we never got to talk to John. :(
Knowing my father-in-law, who loved us all dearly and who enjoyed getting up in front of people and speaking, (unlike myself) ;) I feel certain that our actual reading, had it followed, would have been phenomenal! Go Dad! Maybe next time!
I know he has a lot to say because my sister-in-law got read by a medium on Long Island, where they live, and he came through loud and clear for her with unmistakeable messages for the family. I was so hoping that he would do the same for my husband.
Bill and I do intend to write to John and explain exactly what happened that day, since he, too, is disappointed when the pieces of the puzzle that he gets in order to find the intended sitter are not validated. It's frustrating for him too.
As I may have mentioned somewhere above, I have watched "Crossing Over" for two years now, and I've taped every show and have seen many of them several times now, and I have never really been able to identify with any other reading until this one. I don't believe that is a mere coincidence!:D regards, neo
Great!, Neo, I was hoping you would post your information on here. :D
11-04-2002, 09:31 AM
Hello, Gail! But of course! I'm :) and :( all at the same time, if you can understand that! lol.....neo
11-04-2002, 10:20 AM
((Neo))...we want you to be :)
If you can walk away with just the "knowing" of what was said, (maybe not directly at you), but meant for you, and hold it close to your heart, then that is all that matters. Only you and your love ones can make that connection.
Remember, JE states that me too's happen all the time and if someone is in the same area of someone else being read, it's no coincidence.
Take it all in Neo, never doubt what happen, and cherish it forever ;)
Bill & Susan...your posts have made me feel that I am back at the seminar.....a huge "thank you" for sharing your reading here with "Friends" :)
Yes, Steluna.....ditto, it IS exciting for all of us to be a part of this wonderful, memorable experience. :D
11-04-2002, 10:41 AM
Wow - thanks so much, everyone who was there (esp. Bill), for the excellent notes. I almost feel like I was there, too!
11-04-2002, 11:06 AM
"Remember, JE states that me too's happen all the time and if someone is in the same area of someone else being read, it's no coincidence."
True, scrambled. But that's just it. This was not a "me too" at all. Bill and Susan couldn't validate this info. Bill and I had arranged to meet eachother for the very first time that morining. I had saved those seats for them, and stood there talking to them for awhile before John came out. Susan's step-father opened up the circle of love, and brought my father-in-law Tom through for my husband and I, and I was too slow to react! (sniff)
I'm kind of okay with the validations that did come through, but my husband could really have used a bit more, especially in view of the fact that his sister did have a reading a few years ago in which their dad came through, but my husband was not acknowledged at that time. :( So I felt badly for him that he didn't get more of a message this time. Well, there's always the next time!.....neo
11-04-2002, 11:12 AM
I think the last time we got such wonderful accounts and note taking was when Amfie (I think) took notes and transcribed them here. We were all blown away.
Jamestown, Philadelphia and Omaha - wow! What a whirlwind weekend for everyone. I bet you JE is sound asleep right now - whattathink???? I surely would be pooped.
Doodledink, thank you for what you did also. You gave a lot of people in the midwest a chance to see JE in person that would never have been able to otherwise. Sweet hugs to you.
Bill and Susan, what a neat couple you are. Glad to know you and thanks again. Neo, bless your heart. How close can you come and not get close at all??? Man, that broke my heart for you guys, but at the same time you really were able to validate nearly everything. I am thinking that you got a reading after all. Please do write to JE and let him know. He will be happy to hear that his efforts did get noticed after all...
Last night's chat was huge, 16 people at one point. Kristenr has a beautiful comment that JE made regarding his crossed over family. I hope she puts it in her post.
Nice job everyone - very nice job.
11-04-2002, 11:55 AM
Neo--as I said before ;) ....If you can walk away with just the "knowing" of what was said, (maybe not directly at you), BUT MEANT FOR YOU, and hold it close to your heart, then that is all that matters. Only you and your love ones can make that connection. :)
I understand what you are saying about how you wanted more for your husband, but please do not be so hard on yourself. Try to move through that.
I am no expert here Neo, I can only express to you in my learnings from JE and others here. But maybe, if you can take into account that the reading that his sister had some time back was what "she needed" at the time, not your husband. Just because your husband was not acknowledged, doesn't mean the fact that his loved ones are not connected to him.
All these emotions of "what if" or "what could be"....is a us thing".
You got a piece of the cake Neo......enjoy it :)
11-04-2002, 01:01 PM
Well, another fitfull night has passed for Bill and I. Bill must have been online for 10 hours yesterday. For me, about 6.
We are quite sure now that "our" reading was really for Neo. I had the mike for most of the reading, and Jackie (Neo) wasn't in my line of sight - if I'd seen her gesturing, I would have instantly "gotten it"! I watch John every day, too. Have watched John almost from the beginning of his show, - so the 3 of us are all really comfortable with the entire procedure and we all know "how it goes".
Bill and I are a little shell-shocked, can't help being disappointed - but thrilled that Jackie can validate so much for her and her loved ones. If that's why we were there, that's just fine with both of us. I just hope my step dad will get to us again sometime, but for US! And that's being extremely selfish, I know, but there are a lot of very difficult things for me with much of my deceased family that I'd like to hear something about. Plus Bill and I so want to know if our fathers (not my stepdad) have met over there - they didn't here. And both of us desperately want that absolute, indisputable proof of life after death that a reading gives you. Since Eddie wasn't REALLY validated - we only THINK it was PROBABLY him, that doesn't do it for us.
As Bill said, it's such a weird and unexpected feeling for us - we were "read", but we weren't. And Jackie hasn't gotten enough either, although much more than we have. And none of us want to believe that will be our only chance, ever! You probably think we're all being very selfish.
Well, I really hope to meet more of you when we next go to a seminar - and we'll go anyplace remotely near us! This was our 4th! Save your pennies up, if you've never been. John is really an amazing package of stuff - in addition to his extraordinary ability, he is a GREAT speaker, HUGE stage presence, so down-to-earth, so comfortable with himself, so open emotionally, FUNNY, FUNNY, FUNNY, (as you probably can tell from the show), he's very quick with the come-back comments, and girls, he is soooooooooooo adorable! The muscles...the leather jacket...even the glasses, which he seems to wear for seminars, but not on TV, look cute on that face... It's disconcerting!
Thanks for listening to us - we've really appreciated everyone's support here. We feel like we've gotten lots of cyber hugs! And Jackie, we gotta get to work on our letter - when we gettin' together?
11-04-2002, 03:29 PM
"You got a piece of the cake Neo......enjoy it"
Thank you so much scrambled6! Your post absolutely brought me to tears! I want to assure you that I am enjoying my piece of the cake! I really am. And what you said about my sister-in-law probably needing what she got at the time of her reading with a local medium, is so very true. Her dad lived with her ever since her mom died from breast cancer over thirty years ago, and he was such a very big part of her life, as well that of her whole family. You are so right in what you said. Thank you for that wonderful perspective.:)
As for my husband, I think that he feels more blessed today, after thinking about it, than he did at the time. If nothing else, he might be finding my excitement about it all a bit contagious after all! lol Thank you everyone for your kind words.
Now for Susan and Bill. I have to take the two of you to task here! lol ;) I think you are having a bit of the same problem that I had on Saturday. That is to say that you are having a problem seeing the forest because all those damn trees are in the way!
To me, the things that John gave you in the beginning were all yours. John singled Bill out. He was very confident in what he told you. Those first several things just do not work for me. They are yours! Embrace them! That was your step-dad Eddie Susan. Had it been someone else for me, John would have gotten a name. You inadvertently gave out the name Eddie, so he lost that option.
When Bill said that he didn't think that the insurance connection was for him because he only worked in that field a short time, John was incredulous! Remember? He said, you mean you worked in insurance, but yet you don't think this is for you? lol Take it! It's for you!
I never had anyone I know that used a wheelchair, yet could walk without it. That was Bill's mom! You said that your biological father died of brain cancer when he was 32 years old. That was HIM coming through for you! Bill has a recurring rash on his arm. John mentioned this! He said to be sure to keep on top of it. I know you will!
The things that came after that, okay! There's a reason you could not relate to them. Those were for me and my husband. But that first half of the reading was for you, Susan and Bill. Maybe the reading didn't develop quite the way that you were hoping. It didn't knock your socks off, but I think that you can safely claim all those puzzle pieces as your own. They fit, they really do! Without stretching! Who else could it be for? Forget about it belonging to someone a few rows behind you! What connection could I possibly have to them? If nothing else, MY reading should be further proof to you that YOUR reading truly belonged to you. How else would I have gotten mine? :)
I think in time, you might feel a little better about claiming this reading. At least half of it. Let's take scrambled6's great advice, huh! Let's enjoy our piece of the cake. All those people, and we got read. Be happy! Hugs to you both!
Susan, don't wait for me to write to John. He invited you guys to do that, not me. I'll write anyhow, but you and Bill get your letter written, including names, and I'll write my own letter, and this way our two letters will each corroborate the other, and we'll be sure to cover every aspect of the reading and the surrounding circumstances of our meeting more completely. Also, this way he will have it from both our perspectives. I think he's going to like this story, and the way that our loved ones worked together to bring us each a message of love, even though we were not sitting together at the time. I love it! ;) .......neo
11-04-2002, 04:28 PM
Neo. Your comments that you would not have had any connection to anyone behind us are very interesting. I never thought of that. Because the second half of the reading sure had your name on it. And John was rather certain three times that he was with me.
In addition, we had mentioned brain cancer before, but Susan thinks he actually said "brain disease". If that is so, that would relate to my mother and make more sense. If the others that were there have any recollections of the details of our reading that we have not mentioned, I would sure love to have them.
So now I'd like to know exactly why your father in law knocked my poor saintly elderly mother out of her wheelchair and grabbed the microphone? :-)
11-04-2002, 05:46 PM
This is one of the better threads I've read. I just came back from the Omaha seminar and had a wonderful time and hope that between Pooh, KristenR and SVMAXX, who were taking notes, that they will post the stories because I was lost in JE, totally in awe. (This was my first seminar).
But this is a great story. I really think you, Bill, Susan and Neo, had an amazing experience and I do think that JE would appreciate getting letters describing the connection.
I ditto all comments:D
Good story to pass on to JE and the crew.
P.S. What great notetakers you are!!! I felt like I was there:D
11-04-2002, 07:55 PM
wow so kewl. I am going to be coming back to this thread and reading and reading. So wonderful.
I am glad that JE doesnt seem to be afraid to interact with folks at seminars. I mean, as far as getting close to them or pulling them on stage.
I remember at the very first seminar I went to in New Haven CT. I was blessed with front row seats. I was center stage the aisle was to my left. JE was pacing back and forth arms length distance. He was gascinating to watch. Then he looked like he wanted to go down the aisle. Then he stopped like there was an invisible wall right in front of him. Like he couldnt handle the energy. I felt bad for him. To be so senistive to energy and be around all those people. Of course this was last year when there were only 1000 people at seminars. 3000...wow I couldnt imagine all that energy!
I'm adding Neo to the reading's list. She did not receive a "me too" which I normally do not post, but a reading she just didn't get the chance to respond to. If John hadn't been at the end of the seminar and probably exhausted, I'm sure he would have found out the connection of Neo to atmytv.
11-04-2002, 10:41 PM
"So now I'd like to know exactly why your father in law knocked my poor saintly elderly mother out of her wheelchair and grabbed the microphone? :-)"
lol, Bill! I don't know what got into him. He was the epitome of a gentleman while he was down here on earth! lol But he did love to talk, so I can see him grabbing the mike, too. ;) I'm glad you are feeling better about your reading, Bill. I am too, about mine!.......neo
"I'm adding Neo to the reading's list. She did not receive a "me too" which I normally do not post, but a reading she just didn't get the chance to respond to. "
Gail, thank you for doing that! :)
11-06-2002, 12:51 PM
I apologize for my stories dominating this thread. I don't mean for my obsessive note-taking to exclude others because they are not as fanatical as me.
And also sorry if my own experience was so frustrating, not like the others. If it was not fun to read, you can imagine how we felt. :-( I am kicking myself for forcing my wife to blurt out "Eddie". If she had not, we might have received more validations that could have confirmed it for us while he was still talking to us.
Be that as it may, I would love to hear from others who also have stories to share. And particularly I'd like to hear from some of you Friday night people. John said it was wild. Come on fess up. Were you one of the ones with the "mooning" validations? :-)
11-06-2002, 04:32 PM
Let me see if I can help here...From what Mom and I could remember from putting our heads together about the reading for Bill and Susan...My Mom and I both remember John saying Brain disease or "like a brain cancer" Because Mom was thinking it could have been my Grandmother but we were in the wrong section...But I hope that helps.
11-06-2002, 08:32 PM
I finally got home late last night, and couldn't wait to see if Bill had written his notes, as promised. WOW! I had forgotten most of the major details. Bill, you're incredible!)
It was a real pleasure to meet you, Susan, AND Neo. (Neo, I was the blond sitting in front of you, (with hubby) chatting with all of you)
My heart went out to all three of you during that last reading. Everyone was tired, and it could be felt throughout the room.
I believe part of the reading was for Neo, as well. We stood and talked for a few minutes after the seminar, and I knew you would have given anything for ten more 'high energy' minutes. You looked excited, but drained at the same time. We saw Bill and Susan again, across the street having lunch. They both looked shell shocked. It was obvious they were going to be processing for a VERY long time. Y'all may not have got to lick the spoon, but you did indeed get a piece of the cake. Not to mention a wonderful experience. One you'll never forget!
We all came out of the seminar with much more than we'd come in with. It was my third time, but the anticipation and wonderful energy was still as strong as the first time.
I think John gets better each year. (or maybe I'm beginning to keep up with him now) Either way, he seems much more relaxed.
Whether the rest of us got a reading or not didn't matter. It was great just being in the middle of it all. It would take a dead person not to feel it. (pardon the pun) ;)
Sorry I didn't get to meet the rest of the Philly group. Scrambled, I had no idea where to look. There were WAY too many people.
Maybe next time?
In the meantime, since JE's son has his same astrological aspects, (WOW!) I'm getting on his waiting list. :)
11-06-2002, 09:14 PM
"I think John gets better each year. (or maybe I'm beginning to keep up with him now) Either way, he seems much more relaxed."
Hello, deb7073! How nice to *see* you again! lol I enjoyed chatting with you at the seminar! I agree with you that John gets better and better all the time. I think he seems to be getting more complete names and less initials than he used to as well. Doesn't it seem that way?
You do have a point about how we are probably beginning to keep up with him a little better now, as we grow with him and learn more and more about the process as it relates to the information that is coming through. I find that whole process extremely fascinating, and it's always interesting to hear John explain another of his symbols, or tell us how he interpreted the impressions he receives.
BTW, I did write John a letter explaining about why Bill and Susan didn't understand the second half of the reading. I wouldn't have wanted him to think that the messages were not received. Bill is also going to write to him and update him on whatever he and Susan remembered after the seminar was over.
Again, Deb, it was a pleasure meeting you! Hope to see you again one day!:) .....neo
11-07-2002, 07:30 AM
Deb, there you are!?!?! :) I was wondering about you. I knew you had a quite a distance to travel home, and if you did not post soon, the national guard was going to be called in ;). Glad to see that you and hubby made it home safe and sound.
I was in the "lobby" waiting for you and I am sorry that we did not get a chance to meet. Maybe next time? ---you got it ;). I had the pleasure of meeting up with (((Heather and Annemarie))) :) It was a memorable night but waaaay to short.
The most important thing is that you enjoyed the seminar (which was great) and you DID get a chance to meet other members from here. :)
11-07-2002, 02:20 PM
This has been a great thread, but I never started reading it until this morning, and I think I spent the majority of the day reading it. You all did a wonderful job of reporting your experiences. I hope when they get the two letters, they put the two together so they get the whole picture, as we did. Again, great job guys! Thanks for putting so much into this.
11-07-2002, 02:32 PM
Hi, megray! That IS a lot of reading to do all at one sitting! lol This really has been a great experience.! I never would have thought in a million years that we would have been read by John, even to the limited extent that we were, so it was a very pleasant and wonderful surprise, I can tell you that! ;) ....neo
01-11-2003, 11:33 PM
Hi there all. For no particular reason, I was rereading this thread for the first time two and one half months later.
I really wish that I could tell you that I had put all of the pieces together in my "reading", but that hasn't happened yet. :-(
Yesterday I was thinking about it for the first time in a while and realized that I had been restricting my thinking about a "brother figure for me" to relatives, when maybe it was a friend or business associate. I got all excited as I explored this possibility. But, unfortunately, still no luck. It was interesting to realize, however, that I had never even thought of that when I was trying to make the connection. Maybe if I had someone in my life who fit that role I would have. But when you are "under the gun", and something does not easily pop into your head, it is real easy to totally go blank, as we have all seen and some here have experienced.
In rereading the posts I was, and still am, so thankful to all of you that encouraged me and expressed your appreciation of what I had posted. It is very hard when you are either pouring your guts out or rambling on about something you found interesting to know if others are interested at all, especially if you are long winded like I am.
The other thing that stuck me is after such exciting uplifting posts that reflected the excitement and energy at the seminar, how depressing it was to read mine. So I apologize for that kind of an ending. Just because our day ended that way didn't mean that yours had to.
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