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WPBEAR14
11-03-2002, 11:32 PM
I guess I must be the first one back from the Omaha seminar. It is late so I won't get into the readings. But we all have Tammy to thank for John's visit to Omaha and it was a great visit.
I personally did not get read, but I know there were messages for me through other's readings....things that I need to think about and relate to my crossed loved ones and my beliefs.
It is all about the process, the learning, and the connections we make when we are at a seminar.
It was so wonderful to meet all the JE friends who were there. What a great group of people.
John started out taking questions, but the spirits took over and it was almost non-stop readings....he must be exhasted as he said Philly was similar.
He did tell some very funny stories throughout the session.
This is a reminder for those who were there.....can you believe what his Grandma used to crochet for bridal showers? That has to be one of the best JE family stories.
And I liked the part when the critical care nurse of 15 years, kept going on and on about "how cute he was" and how embarrassed he got.
Well those are just some tidbits to make you want to check back here at the Omaha seminar thread. I know Kristinr and I took lots of notes so we will post some of the readings when we get a chance.
Love, light, and peace,
POOH
chargeit2him
11-04-2002, 06:57 AM
Even thought I did attend Philly, I love to hear about all the readings. They are all a new experience.:D
Sandy
As always Pooh, we are all looking forward to your seminar report.
I must have missed how Tammy is responsible for getting John there. It was mentioned in chat also but we had so many people there I forgot to ask. How did you do it, Tammy? :)
Gail
doodledink
11-04-2002, 07:46 AM
Pooh, it was really nice to meet you and the rest of the gang! I am so glad that you were able to make it and that you had a good time. With regard to the shower gift ROFL!!! Sorry folks...don't think that can be posted here!
How did you do it, Tammy? Well...;)
Anyway, I am going to step back and wait for the rest of the attendees to post their experiences. I am just so thrilled that everyone enjoyed the event and pray that those who were there found the message that they needed.
Love to all!
Tammy
Gypsy
11-04-2002, 09:12 AM
We're back from the Omaha seminar. We all had a great time (I guess I shouldn't be speaking for all, but I had a GREAT time). I met up with KristenR, SVMAXX, Visioncat and Pooh. We had our pink balloons to guide us to each other, Visioncat had her cute Visioncat sign, Pooh had her pink flowers and pink flower jacket, and SVMAXX had made up some tags for us to wear. Of course with all our paraphernalia, all the people around us in line had questions about our group and we were more than happy to tell them about this site. I handed out Pam's business cards with the site listed till I ran out (should have sent me more, Pam, ha ha).
It was really fun meeting up with other members. I didn't get to meet with Doodledink, but I saw her there. She was sitting right in the middle of the front row. John spoke of her, but I'll let her tell you what happened. It was great.
Anyway, we had great seats, fourth row back on the main floor. JE came on and the place just rocked!! :jumper: The applause for him was amazing and of course he looked embarrassed about it.
He talked for a short while and made everyone so comfortable. What an amazing guy. Then he started with questions and went right into readings. But it started out on a bad note. The first person he was reading had psychic amnesia and he was getting really frustrated, you could tell. He finally told them that he was getting frustrated and to remember what he said.
Things went great from there. He had to extract information from some people of course, kind of like pulling teeth, but he did it. He had some great anecdotes that made everyone laugh. I can't say it enough, he is an amazing man. A friend of SVMAXX was read, but I'll let her tell you about that.
Anyway, it was amazing (I use that word a lot, don't I?). I'll let the other members tell you more.
Gypsy
Gypsy
11-04-2002, 10:23 AM
I don't know how I missed this thread this morning, but I guess I had a JE hangover or something. I posted on another thread, so maybe Pam will merge them.
I had a great time meeting everyone and of course JE was wonderful. His grandma was something else, huh?
I saw you taking notes Pooh, and Kristen, so I hope you will do the reporting. Since this was my first seminar, I was in awe. And yes, thank you Doodledink for getting him to go to Omaha. I didn't go and introduce myself to you, but I did see you!
It was fun:jumper:
Waiting to hear from everyone...
Gypsy
scrambled6
11-04-2002, 10:32 AM
Thanks for posting.....looking forward to hearing all about Omaha.
Sassy
11-04-2002, 10:52 AM
OK I am just dying to know!! :jumper:
What in the world did Grandma Rosie crochet for showers?? It must be good!!
Maybe you guys can email me if you can't post it here. :confused:
I love to hear of the seminars. Waiting anxouisly to hear about the readings..........
Sassy
Irishrose
11-04-2002, 10:57 AM
Gypsy
I am glad you posted here as well. I was so anxious to hear how SVMAXX was doing. She was about 3 feet off the floor from the time she got her tickets. How neat that her friend got read. They must still be on a 'high' because I have not seen anything from SVMAXX at all - but then they had a long drive home didn't they.
Thanks again Gypsy to posting. Maybe someone will be able to 'soften' the ancedote about JE grandmother. Sounds like they were quite the family...LOL
Can't wait to hear more.
Irishrose:D
Sassy
11-04-2002, 01:28 PM
I am so, so SO happy for all of you. :)
Especially SVMAXX and her friend!!!!!!!!! Yea!!!!!!!!!!!!
I can't wait to hear all about it!!
sassy
Gypsy
11-04-2002, 01:50 PM
Terry was sooooooooooo excited. Her enthusiasm for JE and the process is absolutely amazing. She was taking notes for her friend during the reading, but she looked like she was in shock. I can't wait for her to get back and post on her thoughts of the day. She said she might not get home until late Monday or early Tuesday. She had a very long drive ahead of her and I believe she was staying one more night in Omaha, but she was undecided at the time.
I will let Pooh tell you about John's grandma. I think she could word it better than I could, plus she took great notes and she would be able to tell you exactly how it was brought up. Hopefully she'll be on later today again after school. I can't wait to hear her report.
JE has definitely changed over the last few years, he is so very comfortable and relaxed now. I noticed it on this new season's shows, but it is more prominent in person. I am sorry to say that I was one of those people who was so mezmerized by him that my brain hasn't quite put everything in order yet. I think I was watching him so intently, his expressions and his movements, that I kind of got lost a little bit :lwink:
But when John was talking about what patients in the critical care ward talk about when they are dying, he pulled a critical care nurse out of the audience and it was funnier than hell. She went up to the stage, GRABBED the microphone out of his hand and just started talking away. John was blown away by her and just laughed like crazy. Then she stopped right in the middle of what she was saying and said something to the effect of 'man, he's gorgeous, isn't he'. John got soooooooo embarrassed, but he laughed. But she was right of course!
Anyway, I could go on and on, just sitting here :cuser: (and I am smiling). I'll let the others jump in here too as I am rambling again......
Gypsy
WPBEAR14
11-04-2002, 02:01 PM
I don't have time to post much, but it was a great trip for me 31 hours roundtrip...my husband was my "driver." He is still skeptical a bit. But I wanted to share the following info with all who were there: "It rained a lot when we were in the building during the seminar." according to my husband.
After I told him about the Bahama story, even he showed more curiosity about what JE said. (Any of you who were there and recall this better, please add on, as I usually don't take notes during the stories.)
The Bahama anecdote: A friend of John's had lost her husband, so they (I assume he and Sandra) were helping her by taking her to the Bahamas. Well she was sad and not having fun until it started to rain. To make a long story short, she had asked her crossed over husband to bring rain. It rained buckets, record setting rain for the Bahamas. JE told it so funny, he quipped, " Can you ask him (your husband) to refund my plane ticket?" He said he (JE) made them all go lie on the beach in the rain, too.
This story was tied into his comments about looking for signs too hard and not realizing them until the otherside "over does" themselves.
Seems to me just retelling the story had an effect in Omaha! LOL
Love, light, and peace,
POOH
Gypsy
11-04-2002, 02:06 PM
Isn't it funny that while we were waiting in line, it was cold, but did not rain. I didn't know it rained while we were in there, but when we came out, the sun was shining beautifully. :cool:
clareb
11-04-2002, 05:01 PM
MORE...MORE...MORE!
please:)
These posts about the seminars are so great...
MJH41
11-04-2002, 05:41 PM
Thanks to all who have posted so far. You put a great big smile on my face and i thank you for that. I can't wait to hear more. You are all great!!!
Mary Jo
DeannaR
11-04-2002, 06:33 PM
I was in line beginning at 6:30. What a great group of people! I met some wonderful people and did quite a bit of Tarot readings while we were waiting.
The one thing I recall was the predominance of suicide stories -- did anyone else notice that? It all started with the first question and snowballed from there.
And, does anyone know the family of the father with heart problems? JE scared me a little when he spoke of how ill their father was and his need to really watch his health.
kristenr
11-04-2002, 07:38 PM
I'll post as much as I can now and more later with help from others who were there.
First, a huge hug and a Thank You to Tammy (doodledink) for getting JE to come to the midwest!
The seminar was so amazing, and meeting (((JEFriends))) just made the experience 100% more wonderful. It was a huge honor and a pleasure to meet all of you at the seminar!
DeannaR, you must have been right next to us because we were at the front of the line and got there real early too. Sorry we didn't meet, but I'm glad you enjoyed the seminar~
Also, as Gypsy mentioned, we met tons of people who asked about the signs, balloons, roses, and pins that all said JEF.org!!! A Lot of people were interested in knowing about the board, and were amazed that we came to the seminar and met each other. People were so nice and friendly in line.
I am so happy I went to the seminar - there was an amazing energy that you cannot imagine until you go to a seminar (as you all have said, but you need to experience it) :) This was my first! I almost didn't go and almost gave my ticket away because I was scared to go by myself! LOL! That is really funny now because I was sitting in my hotel room the night before the seminar, and remember KNOWING that my dad was with me and that I was not there alone. It hit me out of the blue and all of the sudden - my daddy is with me and I feel his energy ~ I remember thinking that it was very distinct! It was such an amazing feeling.
I really learned some life lessons and know that I was meant to go to the seminar! My whole perspective was cleansed and I am see things more clearly.
~~~~~
We sat in the fourth row and turns out that there was an extra seat next to Pooh! The whole time we mentioned to people it was there, and it remained empty until the very last minute. A guy behind us (who turned out to be a skeptic and did not believe in anything - as he pointed out) sat next to us. This upset me slightly at first because I wanted everything to be positive and was hoping everything would go "right". Well, I learned a lesson and got the message when VisionCat said that it was like we were saving the seat for him the whole time, and Pooh said that we sit next people for a reason! After VisionCat said that it clicked that he was suppose to be sitting there next to Pooh (who was very patient with him). I was suppose to learn patience and learn something from him sitting there. It turns out things were fine after I opened my mind to him sitting there... Thank you guys for helping me to see :)
My notes are rather choppy, so I'll do my best; rather rusty especially because my first seminar! Readings and stories continued on next post . . .
forgiveness
11-04-2002, 07:45 PM
Great stories. I want more. More I say!
Hugs
Angelina
njjem
11-04-2002, 07:55 PM
Originally posted by chargeit2him
Even thought I did attend Philly, I love to hear about all the readings. They are all a new experience.:D
Sandy me too!! Pat
kristenr
11-04-2002, 08:05 PM
I'll post more later tonight, but wanted to mention a story that John told about his son briefly. (Please add or let me know if I am missing something).
This was tied into the story Pooh was mentioning about his comments about looking for signs too hard and not realizing them until the otherside "over does" themselves.
He mentioned that he mediated a half-hour before his son's birth. He went into the delivery room expecting his mother, grandmother, etc. to be in the delivery room to see his son's birth. When he went in he said he was disappointed, sad and annoyed that he didn't feel it - he did not feel them in the room. He said he expected that they would be there for such a big occassion to support them.
Well, he received the validation in an unexpected way. The nurses were talking to each other across the delivery room and one nurse said to the other, "Josephine, are you coming to lunch?" (a validation - his grandmother's name). The other nurse said back, "No, I'm going to meet Rachael." (a validation - his aunt's name).
After his son was born the nurse said to him, "You son looks like a prince." (Validation - Princess - his mother's nickname).
John commented that they must have been trying hard to come through if they came through that way.
I really liked that story :) I'll post more later and give others a chance to add.
WPBEAR14
11-05-2002, 01:25 AM
Kristin the story of John's delivery room validations are just as I recalled it, too.
I don't know if I've mentioned yet what fun it was to meet allthe JE friends and other people too. I happened to connect with another science teacher, while standing in line...small world, hey? ((((hugs sent out to all new acquaintances))))
"E." was a kick, too, he was the skeptic sitting beside me (I will only use his initial, since after all he was there only because of his girlfriend.) I remember she gave him a hard time at the end of the seminar, but really he listened, he laughed (at JE's funny stories), and even asked me a few questions. So he was exploring, learning in a way. And at the end of the seminar when JE has everyone rub their hands together, take deep breaths, put hands palm up on lab, and sign....E. followed suit and did it. I thought that was pretty special.
The one thing I recall was the predominance of suicide stories -- did anyone else notice that? It all started with the first question and snowballed from there.
To respond to DeannaR's quote above, all I can say is that I definitely felt the "suicide" theme, too. It started with the first question and even later in the session that theme kept popping up.
[Note: tonight's SciFi show was related to suicide, too] John did once say (when talking about Shelley Peck) that he tended to "get" enegies who's crossings were bizarre or strange (perhaps suicides fall in that category.)
The two people who knew men who were killed in car fires was pretty unusual, too.
There seemed to be two or three people in a section with similar energies for some of the readings.
I haven't organized my notes well enough to write about specific readings yet, but I will try to get that done soon. I am still mellowing out from the event, the JE friends, the people I made contact with living and crossed.
I also will wait for Terry to post her friend's reading or perhaps her friend will log on soon, too.
Goodnight, peace,
POOH
SVMAXX
11-05-2002, 03:42 AM
Hey everybody,
Sorry I'm so late. We rolled into Rock Springs, WY about a couple of hours ago. I still have 200 miles to go before I reach my home, but I will go in the morning. I have been praying that everyone made it home safely. Has anyone heard from Visioncat? Hey cat, check in as soon as you can, OK.
Irish, I'm not sure what you mean about me being 3 feet off the floor? I'm sure any of the "friends" who were there can tell you that I was calm, cool and collected the entire time. Right guys? ...Right Guys???
...OMG...!!!!!!
I have never had such a wonderful experience. It was so much fun. JEFriends ROCK!!!! (Special thanks to Tammy). I was so proud to be involved with this site. I tried to log into chat on the computer at the hotel last night, but I COULDN'T REMEMBER my login in. I was kicking myself. There were a bunch of people there, and I was dying(not literally) to talk. I am pretty jazzed right now, and am anxious to jump into writing about all we experienced. But there is no way I can do it justice at this time. It is going to take me a while. One thing I am certain about is that Marla's son Jordan is quite the little Orchestrator. I can't believe all the signs I missed along the way that this was going to happen. I encouraged Marla to post in her own words. I'm not sure if she will, but she said I could certainly post the story. Please be patient with me. See you tomorrow.
Terry
I LOVE YOU GUYS
DeannaR
11-05-2002, 08:35 AM
Kristen -- I think we were right next to each other. I was in the 4th row, center. One the people with me was called to the stage as a critical care nurse (the one who developed amnesia as soon as she got there?) right before the other woman was called down. She was so embarrassed!
Gypsy
11-05-2002, 11:12 AM
We must have been pretty close in line too. We were right up in the front of the line on the right hand side of the Music Hall. Did you see our pink balloons and VisionCat's sign? It's too bad we didn't get to meet.
I have heard from VisionCat, she made it home just fine. I hope she posts her thoughts here soon.
And Terry, I am ROFL at your comments about being calm, cool and collected. I was more worried about you floating away than the balloons, LOL. :lwink: Like I said earlier, your enthusiasm for JE and the process is amazing. I had a blast meeting you.
I'm still waiting for someone to tell the story of grandma's bridal shower gifts. Pooh? Kristen?? SVMAXX??? VisionCat????? Someone step right in and explain!!
And Doodledink, I want to thank you again for evidently getting JE to Omaha! You have to post how that came together. :jumper:
Anyway, gotta go.
Gypsy
Thank you everyone for this wonderful thread!
Kristen, I'm so glad you went, after reading your post. Last I had heard from you, you weren't going. I'm glad you changed your mind :)
I look forward to Terry's (and her friends) experience. I am always happy when someone gets a healing message from the other side, and even happier when it happens to someone who is from this board! <--selfish, I admit it ;)
Even though I wasn't there, the "mystery" crochet item has been revealed to me via email, by someone who is not sure how to put it.
Let's just say it's more of a gag gift, and that it represents something not *usually* or *traditionally* seen until the wedding night. Use your imagination folks! And if you guess...keep it G rated!
I laughed myself silly, picturing Mr. Edward's grandmother crocheting these things while watching soaps. In the truest East Coast terminology, she must have been "a pisser" to hang out with :)
doodledink
11-05-2002, 11:44 AM
I appreciate the acknowledgements from everyone regarding the role I played in the Omaha seminar. I know that several of you have asked "how" and "why". Let's just suffice it to say that the invitation was extended and accepted. The details of "how" do not matter. What does matter is that John and his wonderful associates DID accept and gave all of us such a wonderful gift. The "why" is simple, because there were people who needed to be there and so they came.
I am so grateful that they have been scheduling seminars in the Midwest (Kansas City, Wichita, Chicago) because getting to the east or west coast can be very expensive for those of us in the "bread basket". I hope they continue this practice.
It was wonderful that so many of you were able to attend the event. I hope you all walked away with a great big piece of the cake. This time for me, I took away a completely different flavor! To be able to support John and his work in such a manner was one of the most wonderful experiences of my life. I was proud to be able to show this support openly when I was asked to speak with the media. I just wish that there had been a little more focus on the message from them.
Anyway, I can't wait to read the rest of your posts and hear each one of your unique experiences and reactions. It is so beautiful how each person walks away with a different message, with personal meaning, isn't it?
VisionCat
11-05-2002, 02:24 PM
Hey, I'm here - didn't mean to worry you, I even made it back in record time as I set my best "qualification" the whole way home! :angel:
Even though I was there, I'm still enjoying your alls posts so much, I feel like I'm redoing the seminar. It is so cool to finally meet everyone who we've been talking to each other for a year +! Meeting you guys was as good as seeing John himself! And man oh man - I just have to say everyone - I am SURE there is not a bigger JE fan than you SVMAXX! You are the best! We didn't really need those pink balloons, we could've just tied a string to your ankle! :lwink:
I was really happy about your friend getting the reading and would LOVE to hear her feelings/confirmations about the whole thing! WOW! I'm soooo happy for her!!
Gypsy, you're so cool, you have to get my LEO sista on here too! POOH and Kristner you guys are so sweet and I'm so stupid - I didn't get why you were taking notes about EVERYTHING EVERYBODY said! I thought you guys were working awfully hard and of course now I get it. So let me tell everyone - listen up because we are going to have a lot of validation stories to enjoy!
More from me later...
Heather C.
11-05-2002, 02:25 PM
Originally posted by Gypsy
I'm still waiting for someone to tell the story of grandma's bridal shower gifts. Pooh? Kristen?? SVMAXX??? VisionCat????? Someone step right in and explain!!
OKAY, I CAN"T STAND THE SUSPENSE ANYMORE!!! What did JE's grandmother crochet? One of you e-mail me and you can be as graphic as you want...;)
Phigalilly
11-05-2002, 03:20 PM
Originally posted by Heather C.
OKAY, I CAN"T STAND THE SUSPENSE ANYMORE!!! What did JE's grandmother crochet? One of you e-mail me and you can be as graphic as you want...;)
Ditto! The only thing I can think of is a little nightie or something, nothing too shocking. I can't think of anything else crochetable(?) that could be...ummmm...*useful* to a bride. E-mail please. I'm waay over 21:D
doodledink
11-05-2002, 03:35 PM
LOL!!! Phigalilly, even though it might not be "ahem" *useful* to the bride.....your mind is headed in the right direction.....head straight to the gutter and you will probably hit the nail right on the head! LOL :lwink:
Gypsy
11-05-2002, 04:34 PM
Okay you guys. Let's put it this way: <ebm> picture a sweet grandma watching her soaps and crocheting.... :lwink: I tell you, the audience roared. It is not something you would picture a grandmotherly person doing. But what a picture it paints. I get this vision of a Grandma Moses in my mind crocheting away. ROFL!!!!
Gypsy
VisionCat
11-05-2002, 05:07 PM
Bravo Bravo Gypsy! <ebm>
I have a different "flavor" to post too about John too. A side I was glad to see! I just have to be able to spend more than 5 seconds at this darn computer! But gotta go vote for now! B back soon!!!!
WPBEAR14
11-05-2002, 06:52 PM
John first began the seminar thanking Tammy and explaining how he got to Omaha. Then he started in on stories.
He told the story behind, the story behind, his reading of the garage mechanic behind the old studio. Did you know it was a Norweigan or Danish tall blond guy who worked for JE that decided on his own (with help from the other side) to go check behind the studio wall. He later told JE that he was "compelled" to do it (ie help from the other side.) [So I can see that being our new catch phrase. Were you "compelled?"] When the blond guy went out the door, who should be standing there but two NY city policemen....and of course he had to ask them if they had a brother that died on a bicycle! (Luckily, JE said they were friends of the show and understood, so his friend was not carted off to the police station.)
JE also said that the worker told him that he was glad he was not him (JE) because now he knows in a very small way how JE feels when he is being drawn in one direction or another. Then to top it off, JE said there was an A&P next door to the studio and he (JE) had visions of the grocer saying: "IF you, in aisle three and have a Aunt who recently crossed, you are needed next door. We were all ROFL again.!:lwink:
Then John told a story of visiting a group of seniors(ie over 80 yr. old) at a YMCA, an early job in his career. He told how he would ask very specific questions about being on several medications and just being taken off two of them.....expecting one or two people to raise there hands and .....practically the whole group raised their hands. LOL [Note: it is difficult to get these funny stories out accurately, as I usually don't take notes during the stories, and also I am laughing so hard I'm almost falling off my computer chair. LOL :D ]
He also mentioned a visit to Portland Oregon, where he was doing a small seminar of less than 200 people. He asked about someone having Tourettes (a disease where the person calls out obscenities, unable to control this usually....I've had a few students with it, but I know my description is not that great, no offense to anyone.) And JE states, he expected a few hands to go up, but......Tourette's must be rampant in Portland, since 1/2 the room raised their hands. [Please know I'm not making fun of anyone with this condition, it was just JE's delivery that was funny.]
I hope this gets some of you who were there in the mood to add your thoughts and comments. JE was so relaxed and excited and positive, it was just so wonderful to watch him work. I could have sat there for days.
Love, light and peace,
POOH
PS to Jesse's "friends": he wasn't there, I guess he is acting now, but still works for JE, too? Carol was there and very sweet and friendly as always.
I believe Jesse was into acting and other stage/tv-type jobs before he worked for Crossing Over. He's still working for Crossing Over as the Gallery Coordinator too. At least, when I talked to him in the second week of October, about my segment.
Here's an interesting link, and picture of Jesse Shafer
http://www.actorsreps.com/jshafer_res.html
I can just see it now.....www.JesseShaferFriends.org :jester:
kristenr
11-05-2002, 07:18 PM
Thanks for starting, Pooh! I continue with some more stories and reading . . . (please add if I am missing something - my notes are rough on this one)...
JE started out by taking questions and started with the third level (top balcony). He could not see anyone on the top and was having a hard time getting anyone to validate anything on the top row. He started by taking a question from from a lady about what happens to people who committ suicide. She mentioned that because she had a Catholic background it was a difficult subject for her.
He answered her briefly and then immediately went into a reading. He answered her question with the reading and was connecting with someone who crossed themselves over. He was getting the name Mary, someone who crossed themselves over through asphyxiation, and mentioned that the person's intention was not to committ suicide. (People were giving half validations at this point). He continued by saying there was a father figure there, Joe. He repeated there was a suicide reference, and that someone had an accident and lost their arm in some type of tractor accident (an impact to the arm).
- No one was validating this and he repeated the part about the arm three or four times for about ten minutes.
He continued and said he was getting two younger energies who crossed over and a Thomas or Troy name.
- I didn't quite get everything involved with this reading because it was rather frustrating, and and the people he was talking to were not answering him (maybe because they had psychic amnesia). I don't know. This was directly at the beginning, and he said that he was getting annoyed and that he wasn't going to even ask for them to validate the information anymore. He just stated the information. He said it was way too early to being getting that annoyed at the beginning and stated everything he was getting. He tried really hard to get the information to them and to get these people to say something.
Nothing really came of this reading, but he was getting pretty specific information.
kristenr
11-05-2002, 07:58 PM
Next question - from the second level balcony - was even more interesting than the first question. I don't have much on this because I really couldn't believe she asked the question in the way she did.
A lady stood up and asked John if he believed the information was coming from God or where he believed it was coming from? She said that her family told her not to come to the seminar because those people were "freaks" and she believed that "this stuff" was the work of the devil (not exactly those words, but that is how it came out). She stated it in a worse way than she meant to. However, John handled it with grace and asked her what she was trying to say (laughing). John answered that this work comes from a divine energy and that is where the information is coming from. [I think that is all I got out of pure wonder that the first like 20-30 minutes went like this - quite interesting.]
There were a lot of better readings after this....which I will post in a separate posting.
~~~~~~
There was a question a lady asked later about whether it is important or not to go to the cemetary. John turned and asked us what we thought. Well, everyone asked back "No" - it is not important. John's response was 'yes and no'. He said if it is helping us in our journey of grief, then yes it is important to go. But no if people don't find it helpful to go - he mentioned the story about how he doesn't like to go to the cemetary but his family does. He said it puts him in a place he doesn't want to be and he knows better. He said a good example of this was 9/11 where people did not have a place to go.
- I have got to sort the rest out but will post more of the better ones later.
SVMAXX
11-05-2002, 07:59 PM
Originally posted by doodledink
LOL!!! Phigalilly, even though it might not be "ahem" *useful* to the bride.....your mind is headed in the right direction.....head straight to the gutter and you will probably hit the nail right on the head! LOL :lwink:
Oh Tammy, you are so funny. I liked JE's comment that the thing he found disturbing was that his Grandmother always had "extras" on hand.:lwink:
And Gypsy, you are absolutely right about the critical care nurse. The look on John's face when she took that mike from him....priceless. It was like she was taking over. He actually laid back on the stage laughing.
As far as my enthusiasm, you guys are so nice. I may have been a tad excited. A tad mind you. Gee, just because a person threatens to break into song a time or two while waiting in line..... Just be thankful I only had one cup of coffee that morning. VisionCat did warn me that my jaws were going to ache from my "perma-grin". :D She was right. They are still tender to the touch. But I have never in my life experienced such powerful energy.
Terry
Marla's reading to come shortly....
kristenr
11-05-2002, 08:04 PM
- sorry -
kristenr
11-05-2002, 08:04 PM
Terry, I'm so excited that you are back! I can't wait to read Marla's reading! You were too cute at the seminar ~ I was smiling right along with you :)
SVMAXX
11-05-2002, 09:44 PM
OK, here we go...
I went to get in line with other JEFriends at about 7:15. It was a great experience. Beth and Marla had asked me to save them a place in line. I planned to, but was feeling guilty when the line got soooo long. The doors opened at 11, but they hadn't shown up yet. I was sitting in the fourth row center with JEFriends. They way things were filling up, I thought man, they are going to be stuck on the third level. Just then I saw Beth. She was looking for me, but there were no seats around. I told them I would go with them to find a seats, but I didn't think we had a prayer of anything decent. Just then, Beth saw some seats, asked if they were saved, and landed us three seats together in fourth row, right section. (Can you believe it). Then they proceed to tell me how they got busy, and didn't even get to the venue until 11:15. They could see the line going clear around the corner of the block. They were just walking past the front of the doors, (intending to go to the back of the line) when the crew started another line and told them to go in. They did not wait one minute in line. (Sounds like Jordan had a hand in this don't you think)? They thought it was very funny that I had waited in line for 4 hours. (But I wouldn't have traded, I had great fun).
Anyway, Thank God there was someone else to take notes. I was in shock, and only got 4 things written down. I am a secretary…go figure. (Head hung in shame) My friend Beth got the information down on paper, but I am left to decipher her handwriting. A woman sitting two rows behind us also took great notes and passed them to Marla after the reading, but I don't have those to work from.
We were sitting in the 4th row, in the right-hand section. John had just answered questions on the other side of the stage, and tons of hands went up to ask another question.
John said, "no, I'm coming over here." Walked directly across the stage, stood in front of us, pointed, and said "I have a son coming through who died of an impact." Marla just sat there, but a woman in directly in front of us, and a woman behind us raised their hands. Then John said, "the 4th or the 14th has significance." Then John said he was getting 3 pregnancies. Marla still was not ready to claim the information, but Beth elbowed her. Finally Marla said that she had given birth to 3 sons, and that she had also 3 pregnancies that had not made it. (We had just discussed this in the car the day before.) (Jordan was buried on November 4th.)
John asked if she had the son with the impact. She stated that he had shot himself. John said "that's an impact, I'm with you" and started pacing.
He said that the son accepts full responsibility. There was no one to blame. (John really put a lot of emphasis on the fact that Jordan was accepting the responsibility. He reiterated the point a couple of times)
JE said, " this had been discussed" "you had been warned." "The two of you had talked about suicide." "You had discussed his erratic behavior." All true
He said that Marla had taken the blame from another person. Someone else blamed her, and she took it.
A couple of Jordan's friends blamed her, and she took it because she also blamed herself.
JE said that Jordan was the second pregnancy, and was there with his half brother. True
Wanted to acknowledge the hard C or K name. brothers Colter and Quentin
Father's father there. true
See's large lake-someone fishing. Marla's father(passed)avid fisherman
Gotta go for a minute....BRB
VisionCat
11-05-2002, 10:17 PM
HEY! Where'd you go? Come back!
SVMAXX
11-05-2002, 11:44 PM
OK, I'm back. Sorry-
JE:says he's with someone that has passed in the last 2 years- Marla's grandmother
JE: ...(?)was dabbling with the dark.Marla had used a Oiuja board to try to make contact with Jordan for a while after his passing.Not always a good experience.
JE:Why am I being pulled east? Past Boston. I think New York. Marla's inlaws live in NY. They just went there in August.
JE: He's telling me there has been an misunderstanding. Ongoing. Marla had placed some of the responsibility on a girl that Jordan was involved with at the time. Thinks Jordan is telling her to let it go. He is solely responsible.
JE: He wants me to thank you for the prayers. Also for the support group. He's saying someone was away. Who was away at the time of his passing? His father lived in another state
He had chosen not to dialogue with his dad for a time period before his death. True, had not spoken with his dad in a while. Says that was his choice.True
JE:Has half siblings here.yes, 2 brothers
JE:I'm sorry to get personal, but does one of the boys or Jordan have a tattoo on his butt? No(laughing)but their dad always told them that if any of them were going to get a tattoo, it had better be on the butt.
JE: Father's father passed? Lung cancer? yes He's saying he's with someone who died of lung cancer.
JE: He is giving you one pink rose. Pink roses are their way of expressing love, but he is specifying one. One rose. Jordan always gave his mom a single rose for mother's day and other special occasions.
JE: I can see your hair is pretty blonde, but he is saying your hair is darker, or brown. I used to dye it red Darker? Yes
JE: Wants you to know that he thanks you for inspiring another father figure. You weren't sure where you got the words. Says he helped you. Marla had recently helped an uncle whose 2 nephews had drowned. Also had helped another father whose son had also committed suicide a while ago.
JE: He's pulling back. Just know that he is OK.
Cool Beans huh,
I think we may be missing things. If anyone else got something that is not here, let me know, and I will see if I can get validations from Marla. It was so overwhelming. You just can't absorb it all. We talked for a long time about everything that had happened. It was a great experience, and something that Marla really needed.
Sassy
11-06-2002, 02:38 AM
Thank you, thank you, thank you. :) You all are brining the seminar alive for me!! Man oh man, how I wished I could have joined you all.
Terry! :) :jumper: I am beyond happy for you and your friend!!!! Were you just in disbeleif when JE walked over by you guys???? I probably would have fallen off my seat!! :)
I am so happy for everyone and so gald that you all met each other and had such a good time.
Keep the stories coming!!
Blessings,
Sassy
VisionCat
11-06-2002, 08:25 AM
Ok, so, I don’t have as much to say about the readings John did, NOT because they weren’t exciting and absolutely incredible as always, especially when it hits closer to home like a few people over sitting in the same isle. When you are in person and watching someone get a reading, it IS incredible! ( SVMAXX’s friend, Marla)! I just didn’t take any notes like Pooh and Kristenr, but I listened, or heard (& remembered) the deep and more personal things he spoke of about himself…
I don’t want to be all “heavy” here so follow me with more reading stories after this, but he’s the one who said it and he meant to share it with us too and I think it is important…
…his stories of right after his mom died, when he talked about the “bad space” he was really in. He was mad. In a crossroads, he cancelled 3-4 months of appointments, what should I do with MY life, forget this, I’m not going to do this kind of “work” anymore, I couldn’t help my mom, why should I help any one else.
This man, with this incredible gift, stood in front of 2,000 + people who had come to witness his abilities and the gift he shares with all of us, for us, and he said this to us. Well, I wanted to talk about that because, I think that was pretty incredible too. He doesn’t play a facade. I like, and highly respect, how he is real with us and that -IS real stuff, the feelings he felt, he’s human – why should he do this for us?
The ‘just’ of what he told us why he should do this was because his mother had told him before she passed something along the lines ‘if he could do this and help just one person, it would be worth it’.
(At this particular time, he had begun speaking of the things that had happened to him, to, bring him back around from the “dark” space he was in,…
VisionCat
11-06-2002, 08:26 AM
...(PLEASE help me because I know Pooh and Kristenr, you could elaborate greatly on the detail of his stories of…
the lady with the missing child when he worked in the video store and his neighbor threw the jacket at him, and…
a lady who had come to him for help to find her missing husband, who subsequently was killed in a boating accident with his mistress, in which JE was the deliverer confirming that information for her, and not very sensitively I might add. How she ended up telling him that she hated him, (and several other things) but, I’ll leave the details of that for Pooh or Kristner, (please!)…
my point about it was…
he was explaining about how he was dropping his barriers to open back up and use his gifts again – ‘to help at least one person and it was worth it’.
What I’m trying to get at is this,…
THANK YOU JOHN because I DO realize that dealing with the DEMANDS of his gift must be just absolutely incredible sometimes. The truth is, he DOESN’T have to share his gift with us and that’s the bottom line. The reality is that he DOES and thank my “divine energy”! I was telling Gypsy the other day, how much even closer I feel to God, who happens to be my “higher/divine energy”. As a matter of fact, I said it to her just like this:
…This spiritual commonality that he has brought to the conscious level of our hearts, mind and actions is just such an outstanding gift! Those words aren't really even enough to describe just what he has given to me. I mean, because it IS about ALL of our Spirits, starting with our own, to those that have passed. It's ALMOST as great as being Saved and to be quite frank about it, JE's gift that he does perhaps sometimes painstakingly share with all of us, has really brought me much closer to the Lord because he has made the "Spirit", -REAL, ACTIVE, & "IN MY FACE!"...
There, that’s what I wanted to say because he sure has helped THIS “one” person, and I know a million more of us. Words don’t BEGIN to value the gift I have received. I owe it to, pay it forward, to be more kind, patient, loving, understanding, compassionate. These are the things I learn from JE because of his conscious awareness he has shared!
So, as it is a wonderful thing, it’s not just about the amazing readings he does, as incredible as they are and how it must be so rewarding and filling, and so WOW, he has taught me to know it for myself inside already.
It makes me feel REALLY good and I’m really happy to be able to talk about it and share it with all of you guys!
VisionCat
11-06-2002, 08:27 AM
Hey Terry, thanxs for such great and detailed validations for Marla. I remember it just like that too! I know it is extremely personal, all of the messages delivered from John. What I received from it most of all is that Jordan directly told her it was 100% his responsibility – He specifically said -NOT hers. Please let her know, we’re thinking of her.
:)
kristenr
11-06-2002, 08:58 AM
VC, thank you for sharing your feelings about that - I forgot he mentioned that part, and that struck me deeply as well!
First, I know I didn't take notes on that part b/c I was really listening and taking in what he said. I'm sorry but I do know that I read that story before in one of his books - I can't remember which one. He did talk about it, and I'll see if I can find it when I get home or maybe someone else can jump in.
[From Memory]
I do remember that he was in a bad place at the time and ready to give up and move on. He said that he called all of his existing appointments and simply told them he was no longer doing readings anymore and had to cancel and then "click" - he hung up. One day after he was in the video store working and a neighbor came up to him asking for help. She told him she needed his help, and he told her that he was no longer doing readings. As you said, VC, he said to her I’m not doing this kind of work anymore. Why should I help anyone else, I couldn’t help my mom? He also said something along the lines that the doctors couldn’t give him the courtesy of telling him what was wrong his mom so he could help her. The lady responded by saying, so you are refusing to help people?
He went home later that day and another neighbor called him up and asked him to come over – she needed his help. John went over and as he walked in the door she threw him a jacket. She said, “Quick, tell me what you get.” He responded by telling her – very bluntly – that someone was missing, and the details of where his body was located and when it would be found in a week, etc. He then told it exactly as bluntly to the wife of the man.
The wife called him back a week later and said to John, “I hated you.” He was telling us that he expected that reaction because of the blunt way in which he told her the information (still in a bad place up until this point.) She said that she hated him but it was his words that she carried with her through that week that helped her to get through it and that helped her. He began to remember his mother’s words, ‘if he could do this and help just one person, it would be worth it’.
He said he was in his neighbor’s house when she called and he started balling and just sobbing. He said he was so confused. I don’t remember how soon after but a lady called asking if he was showing up for the reading he had made with her. She said that she heard he wasn’t doing the work anymore and wondered why he hadn’t called her. He said that he simply had not written down the appointment in his book. She asked if he would still show up. John told us that he said, I don’t know and told her the whole story of what happened and that he didn’t know if he should keep doing this work. She responded by saying, “So are you coming then or not?” He said he would be there and that he went and did the reading and everything went all right. He was fine after that.
So as VC said, he was explaining about how he was dropping his barriers to open back up and use his gifts again – ‘to help at least one person and it was worth it’.
Does this help at all?
VisionCat, that was a wonderful post that obviously comes straight from your heart.
I also feel that John has made my spirituality come alive for me. I have always been spiritual and love my church but I never had physical contact with the spirit world. My beliefs had always been based on faith alone. Finding John and experiencing the spiritual world first hand is being touched by an angel for me.
Gail
kristenr
11-06-2002, 09:18 AM
VC, I have to completely agree with you, and thank you for writing this. I was thinking the same thing this morning driving to work actually. I was thinking if I could have said one thing to him and raised my hand - it would have been to say thank you!
Thank you for helping me to KNOW that my dad is with me and that I don't need a medium to help me to realize that. He is a wonderful teacher and helps to educate us with his wonderful healing message. I learned so much from him and was prompted to delve into my life and learn about things that were always there - I was just blind to the signs around me.
I have never been more comfortable and felt so complete before this point in my life. Although it was John's message that I heard to get me to this point, I also know that for me it was God's will that I learn and open up my eyes at this point in my life. I believe in God and am very spiritual and feel very comfortable and complete with the knowledge I have.
I was sharing with everyone before the seminar and I have mentioned that I grew up believing in God and didn't really question that believe until my dad died. After he died for two years I was struggling against myself to be an atheist. At one point I was convinced that I was. I pray every night and thank God for helping me on my journey to come to this wonderful place in my life. I believe in God now and put my trust and faith in God. I don't really follow a traditional religion, but that is not relevant to me because my faith in God was NEVER this strong before. I think that it was part of my journey to question my faith so that I could come to this place and KNOW that God is with me. My understanding has blossomed.
Thank you VC - thank you for your eloquent words. I can't put it any better. I cannot say how much JE has given me - because it is not being read that is important, it is the process and the message that JE does painstakingly impart to us on a daily basis.
VisionCat said,
There, that’s what I wanted to say because he sure has helped THIS “one” person, and I know a million more of us. Words don’t BEGIN to value the gift I have received. I owe it to, pay it forward, to be more kind, patient, loving, understanding, compassionate. These are the things I learn from JE because of his conscious awareness he has shared!
I also believe that this is part of what Tammy was imparting to JE in her letter on the show and in getting him to Omaha. CAV those around you because it is important to share your love with your family and friends ~ don't take them for granted. I do this and take my family and friends for granted sometimes. I won't dishonor John, my family & friends who have crossed and those here by doing this anymore.
If I haven't said it enough to you all, I do really love you and hope you know how much I appreciate your presence in my life. I continue to pray for you everyday because you are my friends. As Terry says, "you can tell a friend by their heart." I truly believe that, Terry.
God Bless all of you.
Love,
Kristen
doodledink
11-06-2002, 09:27 AM
I also believe that this is part of what Tammy was imparting to JE in her letter on the show and in getting him to Omaha. CAV those around you because it is important to share your love with your family and friends ~ don't take them for granted.
EXACTLY!!! Kristenr, you got it! My sentiments have been the same as I perceive John's bigger message to be...
Yes, he can make these amazing connections and bring such comfort. But the bigger point is the here and now. We are here for a reason and must value each moment of this life. Because of my exposure to John's work, I have learned to value each moment as my last and to make certain that everyone...EVERYONE...in my life knows that I appreciate and value their contribution to my journey.
This lesson has led me to such a profound peace in my life. I know that everyday will bring challenges. But if I face them with the love and compassion in my heart, I will not face them alone. I can now enjoy each precious moment of my life and confidently state that I will leave it with no unresolved issues or regrets.
Sassy
11-06-2002, 12:50 PM
awwwww I am in tears.
God Bless you all and God bless JE. Your open hearts are beautiful and I thank you all from the bottom of my heart. :)
In my dark space I was like you Kristen. I was very angry. I fought myself everyday because I was beggining to think that there is no God. I had always had faith and with the death of my Daddy I no longer beleived, my faith was totally shattered. Now my faith is back 110%, thanks to God of course and in a huge way all of you here on this board and of course JE.
May the light of the Lord shine upon you all. I love you.
Sassy
gignyy
11-06-2002, 04:55 PM
Thanks to all of you who posted on the Omaha seminar. I went to my first one the day before in Philly and all I can say is W O W !!! I wonder if John realizes just how many people he affects (just take this past weekend for example). I always believed in God but was scared to death (pardon the pun) of death. I would lie in bed with palpitations just thinking about it--oh what John has done for me. Quite by accident (believe that one, all you John Edward fans?) I caught John's VERY FIRST Crossing Over when it debuted on Sci-Fi & haven't missed one since. I think his down to earth style is what is so appealing--couldn't you just picture him sitting across from you in your living room & chatting as we do with our friends? I believe he is truly a disciple and I thank God for HIM (and all of you!).
DeannaR
11-06-2002, 05:17 PM
Ok -- I've been inspired to share what happened to me AFTER the Omaha seminar. I know that not all of the readings have been posted yet, and forgive me if I don't get the details exactly right, but there were 2 in particular that touched me deeply.
And my rambling goes a little something like this....
Right behind me, John read a gentleman and came through with a heavy alcohol connection. Shortly before or after, he read a couple of women with a seriously ill father (who John felt was already on the other side).
While the 2 may not be connected to most, it really hit me hard.
For many years, I've been struggling to find the right words to talk with my parents about their alcohol abuse. My biggest fear was that they would die before I had the opportunity to tell them how I really felt. The problem was that I was so ANGRY, that my message would not be as loving as it needed to me (I see that now).
But John's readings allowed me to see the bigger picture. Monday following the seminar, my mother called me and opened the door to a conversation about alcohol. Now, keep in mind that she has opened this door several times in the past, but I never had the strength to walk through it -- until now. This time when she opened the door, my higher power took my hand and walked through that door with me. The words that came out of my mouth were not my own -- they were those of my higher power.
I don't believe this is the first time I've experienced "grace," but, I do believe it's the first time I recognized it as such.
John's messages of love and appreciation helped me to deliver a difficult message with love and compassion. Two of his readings on Sunday could not have been more poignant for me. I'm hoping someone out there as notes to post the information about them.
So, thank you to everyone out there who made their heartfelt posts before me. These posts have given me the courage to open my heart as well. I truly hope the chain of love continues and John Edward continues to ROCK!
Blessings,
Irishrose
11-06-2002, 07:08 PM
O.K. Terry, I was wrong! You were not 3 feet off the ground, you were at least 3.5...LOL
Each of you have done a wonderful job of posting the experiences. John was amazingly open in this seminar. Not that he has not been open in other seminars because he has, but it seems that he shared some really intimate feelings with all of you. He does such a great job of making everyone feel at home.
The readings are so touching. The fact that your friend Marla got read Terry is another example of those that need it the most will get read.
Thanks so much for sharing with us. We truly love hearing how things went.
One last thing. I believe John has given each of us 'permission' to find our own way. We hear what he says. We understand what he says and want to really become aware of how we interface with our loved ones - but having permission to do that makes the difference. I believe that John quietly does that for each of us. We just need to take the ball and run with it - our own higher power takes over and allows us to speak where we never would have in the past.
God's love to each of you. Your journey has just begun.
Irishrose
SVMAXX
11-06-2002, 07:12 PM
Deanna,
I am so glad that God has given you the resources to work through these difficult issues with your parents. It is so hard.
I have had a little time to regroup since the seminar, although I am still filled with some pretty intense emotion. You all know that I was having difficulty containing myself. It is really a hard thing to put into words, but so many of you seem to be speaking from my heart, so I feel the need to say a few things.
VisionCat, I appreciate the fact that you got "heavy" for a minute, because this is a profound experience. It really has nothing to do with the actual seminar. It is about Life. Life continues after Death, and that is a blessing, not an excuse. People HAVE to KNOW how I feel about them and how I feel about this process. I am the only one that can tell them. I have to take responsibility for myself and my actions. I was raised with a belief in the afterlife. I think I have always believed in God. But, was I spiritual? I don't think so. Did I appreciate all that has been given to me? No, I was complacent. I took these things for granted.
I believe that John Edward is a tool of divine intervention. I am not sure where I would be right now if I had not been led to him. I have spent a lot of time in that "dark space". I don't want to go there again.
I am a tremendous JE fan. (I hate that word because it is simplistic, and my emotions are not, but it will suffice). John often says that it is not about him, it is about the process. Everytime I hear him say that, I want to qualify his statement with my own views. I wholeheartedly believe in this process. But, I think much of this is about him. In my opinion, his talent is not what sets him apart.
VisionCat has already perfectly stated the basis for my reasoning:
...I DO realize that dealing with the DEMANDS of his gift must be just absolutely incredible sometimes. The truth is, he DOESN’T have to share his gift with us and that’s the bottom line. The reality is that he DOES...
Here is a man who chooses to do this work. It's not something he has to do.(or maybe it is, but that is between him and his guides) All of the garbage that he puts up with, and all of the negative energy that is heaped upon him. Death threats? My God, I can't even imagine. And even the fluctuation of postive energy coming and going in powerful waves. He faces all of that every day to give us a message. Every day I am thankful for John and his willingness to endure on my behalf. God is the one I am thanking.
That is where my enthusiasm comes from. I was in Omaha with John; with all of you; with the Lord. (And to steal another quote from VisionCat)...REAL, ACTIVE, & "IN MY FACE!"...
Terry
kristenr
11-06-2002, 07:23 PM
John walked across the stage to the left side and pointed to the bottom front row.
JE: I'm getting a sister who crossed with severe liver disease. She lived her life to the fullest.
a woman validated this
JE: I'm also getting a man who was referred to as an SOB in an endearing way.
woman laughed and validated this - her husband
JE: Did he have a poker trick?
woman responded yes - probably
JE: He cheated when he played
Yes - she started laughing
JE: This man liked his liquor - he had a wooden leg.
Yes
JE: Your family is split in three sections.
Woman excitely responds yes
JE: You are trying to get together but it is difficult. People don't always see eye to eye.
JE: You organized a religious group?
Yes-she organized a group
JE: You are using humor and personality to deliver a simple and serious message.
JE: There is a dog with him - he refers to dog as "My baby"
yes - that was the dog was his baby
JE: Somebody drowned!
Her cousin almost drowned 3 times
JE: This is not how they died, though.
Yes
JE: Mother is with them.
Yes
JE: Someone had gangrene.
JE: Getting name Gor or Gordon
Yes- father's name was Gerdell
~~~~~~~
Deanna, I think that is one of the readings you are referring to - please add anything else if it is missing....
kristenr
11-06-2002, 07:45 PM
Ellen, I really like what you said - "But having permission to do that makes the differenceI believe that John quietly does that for each of us. We just need to take the ball and run with it." I really think that is true ~ thank you for putting it in that way.
Deanna, thank you for having the courage to share that with us. I do believe that God did speak to you and helped you find a way to deal with your feelings. It is quite amazing how everything works once we open our eyes to the signs around us.
Terry, you speak directly to my heart when you say this - "Here is a man who chooses to do this work. It's not something he has to do. Every day I am thankful for John and his willingness to endure on my behalf. God is the one I am thanking. " I could not agree with you more - I love the way you put it - "his willingness to endure on my behalf." May God Bless him!
VisionCat, thank you so much for starting this subject - I really do appreciate all of the insight that has risen as a result. You are right JE is the reason that I am here at this point right now, and thank you for pointing that out.
In fact, there was a part of Crossing Over yesterday at the end when he was talking about the rosary beads and praying being the most important thing you can do to honor your loved ones who have crossed over. He said that is why he prays before the show and after the show, as well - after everyone leaves the gallery, to thank them and honor those who've crossed who came through - just in case people forget. That really stuck with me - what a wonderful man he is!
Gignyy, I quite agree with you it is JE's down to earth style and caring nature that really makes a difference. I too thank God for this board - Thank you Pam!
(((Sassy))) - you are such as sweetheart! I love you too! May God Bless You!
Deanna, I will try to figure out if I have notes on the other reading as well!
DeannaR
11-06-2002, 08:02 PM
Kristen--
Actually, the one I'm talking about happened directly behind me so that would have been center, back about 6 rows.
I remember the one you're talking about, but I don't think it's the same one.
I recall there was a "J" connection (because I connected with that) and "a lot of alcohol" to paraphrase JE.
Thanks so much for looking!!! I wish I had been taking notes.
DeannaR
11-06-2002, 08:04 PM
All, I agree.
I spent much of my ride home thanking those who came through for allowing me to "be a fly on the wall" and be present for very private and personal reunions.
It really was an honor.
doodledink
11-07-2002, 03:54 PM
Hi all! I just got the sweetest phone call from a friend of mine who attended Omaha. She actually went by herself and I was unable to find her to have her sit with us. Long story short, she ended up in the top balcony all by herself.
Background: She has had a rough year of it (little to my knowledge) and has lost two babies in the past year. The last miscarriage was actually last week right before the seminar. Since that loss, she and her husband have been discussing the issue of trying again. He wants to and she didn't. She explained that she just didn't think she had the strength to go through it again, physically or emotionally. He just kept saying "third time's a charm"...over and over.
Anyway, she gets to the seminar and is actually enjoying herself despite her own personal "blues". She starts really feeling the experience of the readings and the great personality of JE. (Ya know what I mean!). The seminar ends and she's driving home, reflecting on all the messages and what they meant for her own frame of reference. When out of the blue she looks at the car in front of her....and low and behold...the vanity plates read....
"3XCHRMD"
Needless to say that she is amazed at this personal sign that she got right then and there about her own personal dilemma. She is taking comfort in it and has a whole new attitude. And the beauty of the whole thing is that she isn't banking her hopes on the sign...that next time HAS to work out because of it...but is taking comfort in the realization that there is a higher power at work and that she should pay attention.
She told me that even if things don't work out on the third time, or even if they decide not to try, at least her husband's sentiments were acknowledged. She went home and told him about it and was able to share the joy of this incident with him.
I just thought it was so beautiful I wanted to share with all of you. Another healing moment from such a wonderful event!
SVMAXX
11-07-2002, 05:26 PM
Oh Tammy,
That is so beautiful. I am very happy that your friend received the validations she needed. At the same time, I am saddened for the trials she is enduring. My prayers for strength go out to her.
Thank you so much for sharing.
Terry
doodledink
11-07-2002, 05:47 PM
Thanks for your prayers for her. I know that they will help! I also believe (although she didn't come right out and say it) that she has found comfort in the knowledge that the energy(s) of this child (or children) is on the other side. I figure either one is trying very hard to get here...and will perhaps make it next time. Or, there are several who made the choice to experience that "almost" so that she could learn whatever lesson she is to learn from the loss. I hope that I am correct that she is finding comfort anyway. Her tone of voice on the phone sure sounded like it! ;)
kristenr
11-07-2002, 06:40 PM
Tammy, thank you for sharing that ~ my prayers are with your friend and her family. May God surround her with his loving light and comfort.
My thoughts and prayers are with you as well.
God Bless,
Kristen
WPBEAR14
11-10-2002, 11:09 PM
REFLECTIONS FROM THE OMAHA SEMINAR WITH JOHN EDWARD
It was so wonderful to be at Omaha. As Tammy (doodledink) mentioned, you are “feeling the experience of the readings and the great personality of JE. (Ya know what I mean!)” You tend to forget your problems and enjoy the messages.
Although I took notes, some readings are more clearly detailed than others. From reading recent posts in this thread, I feel the need to start with the reading that meant the most to me. You see, I have always felt since my first seminar (this was my 4th) that I will probably not “get a direct reading” from JE. Why not, you might ask, well, I too believe as many of you do that we don’t really need John, to talk to our loved ones on the otherside. But that doesn’t mean we can’t “get” messages when we go to a seminar or watch JE on TV. (Which happened to me once, too)
At my first seminar in Minneapolis, I was not only compelled to go, but kept hearing my sister say....”listen to that, its for you, too.” That may seem “hokey” but I listened and those readings did have meaning for me. It is like Tammy (doodledink) mentions, you are “reflecting on all the messages and what they meant for [your] own frame of reference.”
The reading that meant the most to me was about the fifth or sixth that day, for a mother and daughter sitting next to each other in the upstairs balcony, 2nd row, to my left (if facing the stage.) After reviewing my notes with my own mom, we felt many of the messages were for us, also. [You all know I :angel:never want to be accused of being a “relative stealer”, so perhaps just a “me too” for me that day.]
John started with a female (daughter/sister) who had crossed, with cancer and an L. connection. Then Dad is with her, the older male that passed met her on the otherside. There was a minister in the family, Happy Birthday to someone, and a Michael connection, adding a connection to a man with an amputated leg.
My connections for the above paragraph are many. First of all my sister, Laurie is crossed, as is my Dad. My dad’s grandfather was a minister. On my mom’s side her Dad (my sister’s and my grandfather), and our Uncle (mom’s brother) both had birthdays on November 4th (the day after the seminar.) Both are crossed and the Uncle by suicide (recall all the suicide references that day.) Michael is my husband’s name and his grandfather had an amputated leg.
Next JE talks about the Laurie, Laureen, person teasing the woman about being jealous of her sister. JE said she got away with alot of things. The lady said her sister was 7 years older.....my sister was 7 years older than me, too. JE said the L person had to work harder than “you” did, as a kid. Something about having prettier eyes (but I’m not sure who said this JE or the lady.)
Well, my sister teased me in life about a lot of things. I was jealous of the fact she was more popular, better figure (she was thin, I’m not), she dated so much, and I was fortunate to have some dates in HS. She dated every boy in her highschool class...I guess she got away with a lot. (My mom never knew that until after Laurie crossed.) I think I have prettier eyes, however. LOL.;) Laurie did “work” during HS and college, where as I didn’t get my first job until I graduated from HS.
JE talks about how she was debilitated at the end, ready to leave, not easy to leave, but ready. Conversations with only a couple of people, she didn’t want to be a burden. Someone now is getting drops for cataracts or glaucoma. Again that she slipped into a coma, somewhat not ready at that point and wanted to be at home. Consoling the person that they did the best they could.
These messages were very comforting for my mom and I. I was not able to see her, because I had a cold, before she lapsed into the coma....my doctor had not recommended it...but as I drove past her hospital from my doctor’s appointment I did hesitate and almost went...I do regret not stopping. I could have worn a mask. But she did visit with my brother and her husband and a few of her kids before she lapsed. My mom was there, but we were hesitant about having her there, almost “kept her away” as Laurie’s illness was difficult for my mom. My mom does have glaucoma drops for her eyes.
JE starts with talking about Rosy, Ruth..R name. Dad did not see "her" before she crossed. Male figure on Dad’s side there. Ed or Eddie, mom’s side, last name R. Big one, little one reference. An off color joke by mom....here is where JE tells his grandma’s crocheting story.
I may be reaching for some of these connections, but I did find some meaning in them. My grandmother’s name on mom’s side is Roxa (a unique R name.) May also connect to the “someone kept away” statement, as I was with Grandma Roxa when she crossed and my mom was out of the room. OR my dad’s adopted sister, was really his cousin, and her married name was Rathbun. My Dad crossed before his sister, and before my sister, but after Roxa. (I’m not sure whose “dad” is being talked about not being there.) Many male figures on my Dad’s side are there including 2 of his brothers, his Dad, his Uncle Forrest, his Uncle (Ray) who he was named after...perhaps the big one little one reference. The E name on my mom’s side, we decided was probably her Uncle Earl Eugene Tr..........., the E & R connection.(Could JE have an E.T. connection not Ed?) The big one little one reference could have been to mom’s brother and nephew, Gordon I and Gordon II (who we have always called “little Gordie”). When I mentioned the off color joke....my mom blushed and said, “Yes, I have told a few” LOL, I laughed and related the JE’s grandma story.
Lastly, JE mentioned an Aunt who had crossed who was very loud, a person who could have been insulting. The remembrance of pushing down steps from the sister. The February big for family, with birthdays, etc. JE said someone "scared the crap out of someone else" - he mentioned that she was sitting by herself and speaking outload asking a question - not expecting it to be answered when all of the sudden someone came up behind her and answered the question. It scared her. (The lady validated this and said her little brother did this to her on her birthday.) Many people inspired by a huge heart wreath.(The lady validated this, too]
There are two babies..boy named for her and a June connection (or 6 connection). The lady then asks JE a question about feeling pain in a coma.
My mom’s Aunt, married Grandma Roxa’s brother, is crossed. She was loud in life and very assertive (which is sometimes construed as insulting), as her husband died young. My husband and I stayed with her in Calif. when we were first married. She was a cool lady. February is huge for my family: My dad’s birthday, my niece’s birthday, my dad’s mom’s birthday, (two close friends, still here who are like sisters to me have February birthdays.) both death dates of Grandma Roxa and Laurie were in February.
But the “step incident” was the clincher that Laurie was there. Her favorite teasing story to tell about me was the time when we were having our basement dug, the steps to the front of the house were a few feet away from the door, and one day...we (my brother, sister and I) were on our way to go swimming and I (probably not paying attention) fell between the house and the step. My sister was behind me, but I don’t think she pushed me, but she laughed her head off and frequently retold the story to all who would listen. [I can’t recall a wreath, but will keep that in mind.]
Also my two granddaughters are the newest grandchildren on my mom & dad’s side. Maddie Rae (was named not only for her dad Ray, my dad Ray, but also my sister, Laurie Rae. Maddie has a very dominant personality and could be “boylike” in JE’s references) Her sister Hallie Mychael was born in June and the first thing her daddy said over the phone was 3:11 meaning the time of birth, but it set me back a minute as 3/11 is my sisters birthdate. (This could relate to the “scaring incident.” I had been half asleep when the phone rang.) I am very thankful they mentioned my granddaughters as they are very special little girls.
I realize this is very long, but I had to get it down today, before I forget more of the reading. It was fun to go over the reading with my mom, as we both felt some contentment with Laurie’s portions.
I think it is so special and sweet that John said that .... “he prays before the show and after the show, as well - after everyone leaves the gallery, to thank them and honor those who've crossed who came through - just in case people forget.” I personally want to acknowledge all my family who may have come through that day, and even those who did not, with love and prayers and musical notes.:musicnote :musicnote
Love, light, and peace,
POOH
VisionCat
11-10-2002, 11:39 PM
Wow Pooh! That really was a lot of wonderful validation for you and more than by chance I'd say! Maybe as you say, you really don't NEED to get a reading directly and your unselfishness in reference to that, probably went for those people, -as your loved ones KNEW you would hear them anyway!
Thanks for reminding me about John saying that part, how he prays to thank those that have come through to US from the 'Other Side'. I had not really thought or spent any time through -their eyes- in my mind, but I do remember John's description in his book of what it's like for him using the swimming pool example. Like when you're on top of the water and you take a big breath and try to swim down to the drain of the pool and stay there for as long as you can and eventually, you can't help it and you have to come back up for air. Obviously we can't really know how much work it is, or isn't, to communicate FOR THEM, but, I was happy he reminds us to pay respect for them in that manner too!
I'm sure those messages were for you too! :)
SVMAXX
11-10-2002, 11:57 PM
Congratulations Pooh,
I think you received many wonderful validations, and I am very happy for you. I am glad you have given us the opportunity to share them with you. This process is so amazing.
Thanks so much,
Terry
WPBEAR14
12-08-2002, 12:01 PM
A special hello to all the JE friends at the Omaha Seminar in November. Although a month has passed, I can't stop thinking about the great friendship, camaradarie, and "spiritual grace" that we shared that day
I feel there are two or three readings that were not mentioned in our remembered and sometimes lengthy posts. I will check with Kristinr and see if we can get those up before too long. It has been a busy month.
I am sending a copy of the pictures I took of the Friends of JE to Tammy (doodledink) and to Pam Blizzard (I think there is a site where pictures go.)
If anyone has a problem with that, let Pam know. By re-reading the posts and looking at my notes I think I was able to identify everyone. But sorry if I goofed.
Love, light, and peace on earth to all.
POOH
doodledink
12-08-2002, 12:07 PM
Pooh, you are awesome! I can't wait to see them!
It is so funny that you would choose to post this today. I had a message on my machine today from a woman who wanted to know if this was the number for the person who organized the event. I haven't spoken with this person yet and don't know what will come of it. But I do find it interesting that the message and your post "reviving" the memories of the event would show up on the same weekend.
hmmm...:)
kristenr
12-14-2002, 10:01 AM
Pooh and I transcribed the rest of the readings from the Omaha seminar. Here is one of them. The rest will follow. Enjoy.
Much Love,
Kristen and Pooh
______________
JE: Someone lost relatives to a fire.
First Lady: A friend died in a car fire. My high school friend, a good
friend.
JE: But there are two separate events - another fire......?
Second Lady: Brother passed in a car fire.
JE: There is an educational connection?
Second Lady: (I think she acknoweldges this......)
JE: two miscarriages.
Lady: (connects to that)
JE: Getting a name: "Ellen" or "Helen" or "Eileen" someone was like a sister
Lady: a cousin Ellis
JE: I'm getting a red rose
JE: remember the physical body is our vehicle. At death the soul gets out, the soul leaves. This was referring to the concern that the burned victims had suffered (I think).
JE: sister with mother figure still here.
Lady: acknowledges mom or older sister.
kristenr
12-14-2002, 10:05 AM
Here is another reading from the seminar:
JE: There is a "Paul" or "Pat" name (could be still living?)
Person: hesitant, Laurie connection, P name.
JE: Someone had breast cancer
JE: Someone has a bad left leg now?
Person: Yes, my knee is bad.
JE: Sister not being spoken to?
Person: Yes, half-sister
JE: Someone passed with breast cancer (he repeats) Misdiagnosed and then treated again.
Person: My mom
JE: Someone had a music background.
JE: Someone was shot with a gun.
Person: an older friend
JE: rebel in their own way, Mom would be shocked to be with.
JE: Mom is with a fun energy
JE: Milwaukee, WI? or city with a W
JE: There is a younger energy that wants to come through
JE: There is an "A" name - "Arnold" or "Arthur". He is taking responsibility for his passing but not a suicide. He had a drug problem. (or alcoholic) Two fathers have passed.
Person: Validates this - her little brother passed with substance
problems.
JE: Family is coming together, music connection, healing energy with them
JE: Someone is in the healthcare profession
JE: Cholesterol is high and they are worried about it but it is managable. You can do this.
JE: Someone is spanish , the AR name is spanish/italian connection and a relative
Person: My ex-husband is Mexican
JE: You felt like a bad sister but you are not
Person: validates this
JE: Be careful driving - the energies don't want to get in a car with you.
kristenr
12-14-2002, 10:19 AM
JE: Someone lost their son. There is also a Shirley or Shelly. There is an education connection.
Lady: My name is Sheryl and I lost my son when I was in high school at age 16
JE: Okay, I'm with you. Dad's passed - two dads....
Lady: No
JE: Really? There is an "H" connection. H or Harold, Someone has congestive heart failure and is sick in a big way.
Lady: My dad - but he is still here.
JE:watch his health
JE: But your mom isn't taking this seriously.
Lady: No
JE: (He said some thing like Why not?)
Lady: Well, they are divorced...
JE: Oh, well that would make sense then.
JE: (After thinking a minute) - Wait, though, is he remarried or seeing someone else?
Lady: Yes, he has a girlfriend.
JE: And is she not taking his condition seriously?
Lady: (I think she said "not really.")
JE: Well, he is sick in a big way. Please pass this on to her. The end of July was turning point for him.
JE: Were you a singer in school? Because your dad is telling me to invite you down and sing for us.
Lady: yes (validates this)
JE: I'm getting a little girl who is learning disabled. Name of Amy or Aby? LD or special assistance. She is 7 or 8. If she is 20 now and this happened when she as 7 or 8 that okay too. The power of prayer is around her.
JE: Getting an "S" name "Stacy"
JE: One of the ladies with you is not your sister because that's what they are telling me. They are telling me one doesn't belong.
JE: Older female crossed, its her son who is ill. (ie: girl's father)
Validated : Grandma Cruya??
JE: Do not take the heart thing lightly.
JE: Is there an inter-racial relationship in the family?
Lady: Yes - my mother-in-law (I think or something along those lines) Hispanic mother-in-law.
JE: And this is something that people don't really want to acknowledge or talk about in your family?
Lady: Yes
JE: Utilize this experience.
JE: Thank you.
doodledink
12-14-2002, 10:26 AM
wow! You guys are great to have worked so hard documenting all these great readings. It is so nice to be able to come back to this thread and read all these posts when I want to remember that wonderful day!
WPBEAR14
12-14-2002, 10:36 AM
Here are two of the last postings that I think were missed on this thread. Kristin R and I have put our heads together to finish these up for all of you. Sorry it took so long. Enjoy.
Lady with the flag
JE: looking for someone with a flag shirt, or holding a flag.
Female crossed, “sister”, 2 families coming together to co-exist as one.
Lady: [jumps up holding a folded shirt with a flag on it]
JE: cirrhosis of the liver.
Lady: yes. sister.
JE: But she lived her life to the fullest, they had a good life.
“SOB, and Bastard” were endearing terms.
Lady: brother-in-law.
JE: good relationship, poker “trick”
someone could “drink another person under the table”
JE: Family is split in 3 sections and can’t get together.
Lady: nods, yes.
JE: people don’t always see “eye to eye.” they applaud you for using humor to get mesages across.
JE: not preachy, sharing.
JE: “dog” with him, part of family, tied ears in knot.
JE: someone drowned.
Lady: a cousin drowned 3 times, (something about a lake.)
JE: Mom is there with them. Had gangrene, severe infection.
Lady: my mom.
JE: she passes near her own birthday.
JE: you need to get the necklace fixed, it is broken.
JE: “Gordon”
Lady “Gordell”
JE: influencial figure, food reference to them.
Lady: his father was a baker, the 1st in town. He invented the bagel. :chef:
___________________________
The short last one about the brother who worked for Union Pacific.
(Kristen) JE: Someone works in transportation
Man: Yes, my brother, he works for UP {editorial comment: Union Pacific is big in Omaha}
JE: There is a joke about putting on weight (losing or gaining weight)
Related to Chad or Robby, young when dad passed.
Man: I think he said he did
JE: You do remember dad - adapted relationship to family -- “resigns from family? Dad recognizes transition in Rob, proportion/size?
JE:He does see what you are doing/radio/conventions.
JE: Name: "Mildred," Millie, Millicent
JE: Someone teaches young kids
JE: Someone miscarried
Man: same sister
JE: Also, there is a small purebred dog. “Westie, Maltese”
JE: Dad is taking full credit for coming through with the messages.
_____________________
Fini!
Love, light, and peace,
Pooh and Kristinr
:cuser:
doodledink
12-14-2002, 12:33 PM
Awesome! You two must really be speed writers or know shorthand because there is no way I would have been able to get all these details in my notes (if I had taken them). It's like reliving the whole seminar all over again!
Just a selfish question now, did either of you happen to take notes during John's intro or closing? I don't think it is appropriate for it to be posted here, but in the beautiful remarks that John made about and to me and my family there was a validation for my mom-in-law that I would like to preserve for her. Needless to say, the excitement of the day has made some of the details a little hard for me to remember. If either of you do have notes on this, please ask Pam to email them to me if you don't mind.
Thanks!
doodledink
02-07-2003, 10:10 PM
Okay you guys!!! Go back to my post in this thread dated 11/07/02! The one about my friend who sat in the back...about her personal trials with miscarraiges. THE POWER OF PRAYER FOLKS...THE POWER OF YOUR PRAYERS!!!
Yes, I was just told that she is 11 weeks pregnant! Given what I know and a little math, I think that would calculate out to the little miracle happening at the "next go round" so to speak!! I am so excited for her. I am sure that they are terrified of what may happen (again) but what a beautiful affirmation of her experience. I am just in awe at the power and timing of Divinity. As John says..."there are NO coincidences!".
She is on top of the world. Please join me in prayers for her as she tiptoes through the next few months. Those of you who have experienced what she has knows what I mean. Please help me send her all the light and love we can to help that little soul make a complete journey to the physical this time!
All I can say is WOW!
Tammy
3XCHRMD - awesome! I'm sending lots of prayers for God's will to be done for your friends.:musicnote :musicnote And a few extra for you too, :musicnote blessing you for being such a good friend to them :thumbsup::musicnote
kristenr
02-08-2003, 11:40 AM
Tammy, WOW! I am so happy for her. Sending prayers, lots of white light and love for your friend, her family and you. Thank you for sharing the wonderful news!
gignyy
02-08-2003, 03:56 PM
I LOVE validations like this--what a journey we are on! More prayers sent their way:)
WPBEAR14
02-09-2003, 12:31 AM
:musicnote :musicnote :musicnote
Prayers, white light and love sent to your friends.
What a wonderful validation of a wonderful weekend in Omaha.
Thanks for sharing, Tammy.
Love, light, and peace,
POOH
doodledink
06-27-2003, 11:45 PM
Well folks...just had to post. Last Sunday I was invited to a baby shower! Yep you guessed it ... for my friend that I posted about above (let's just call her "3XCHRMD" ). I am so excited! She is getting rEALly big and the due date is approaching. By the time the kids go back to school, there will be one more little pair of feet running around their house.
The third time really has been charmed, and how beautiful that she was given the support from the other side in such a fantastic way.
Now, I'll just pray that the rest of the pregnancy goes as well and that both mom and babe come through healthy and happy.
kristenr
06-28-2003, 01:42 AM
Tammy, what wonderful news!!! Thank you for updating us.
I am so happy for your friend. Continued prayers going up for your friend, her baby, and her family for a healthy pregancy. May her and her baby be surrounded with white light and love. :musicnote :musicnote :musicnote
Definitely a beautiful message from the otherside.
Blessings to you, your friend, and the baby.
Kristen
starlasue
06-28-2003, 07:42 AM
Fantastic news! Prayers that everything continues to go well.
Peace
starlasue
SVMAXX
06-29-2003, 11:19 PM
Oh Tammy,
What great news!!! Thanks for keeping us up to date. And be sure to let us know when the wonderful addition makes an appearance.
Lotsa love,
Terry
doodledink
09-12-2003, 10:46 PM
Well folks, how's this for a wonderful ending to a beautiful story? On Saturday, September 6th 2003, my friends beautiful little " 3 X CHRMD" baby boy, Carson was born.
I am so tickled that their little miracle made it here safe and sound and both mommy and son are doing great!
AND...(I counted) BAKING TIME FOR THIS LITTLE 'MUFFIN' WAS 39 WEEKS AND 6 DAYS EXACTLY FROM THE OMAHA SEMINAR!!! If I'm not mistaken, they say that a human pregnancy is actually 40 weeks not 9 months....so that would mean that she literally conceived the night before! :lwink:
Now, I know it usually isn't that exact....but REALLY...can't we just choose to believe it!
BECAUSE I BELIEVE IN MIRACLES!!
starlasue
09-13-2003, 04:37 AM
Tammy - what fantastic news! :baby:
May baby Carson have a blessed life. May the new Mommy and Daddy enjoy their little miracle.
Seeing 3XCHRMD on that license palte was such a fantastic validation for her to see and understand.
Thanks for the update! :jumper:
Peace
starlasue
What a blessing for Carson and family! May he always fill their lives with joy. :baby:
kristenr
09-13-2003, 01:36 PM
Tammy, what a wonderful blessing! My prayers are with Baby Carson, mommy and daddy.
God Bless,
Kristen
Irishrose
09-13-2003, 02:06 PM
How precious! Welcome little Carson and may you have a long and wonderful life.
Just too sweet...
Blessings to the new parents and to the little sweetie.
Irishrose
This was definately a "chills" thread - you know, the kind where you break out in waves of goosebumps. Awesome Tammy, thank you so much for sharing the wonderful news!!!! :-)
SVMAXX
09-14-2003, 09:53 PM
Just too, too cool!!! I am continually amazed by the process of communication. And BIG CONGRATULATIONS to Carson and family. Thanks for the news Tammy.
Terry
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