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01-06-2003, 05:11 PM
John's site has listed a new Seminar.
Dallas on February 20th and 21st at the Dallas Convention Center.
Time: 6:30 to 9:00 pm Doors open at 5:00
Tickets to the Las VegasEvent are $150.00
How did you get this information? When I check the JE.net website it does not have the Dallas seminar listed or the price for the Vegas appearance. :confused:
01-06-2003, 06:16 PM
It was there, at least briefly. I made a print out or I would think I dreamed it.
I called Telecharge and they said they did not have tickets for the Dallas Seminar.
I have no idea why the announcement was removed from the website. But I hope the Seminar is actually on.
01-14-2003, 09:17 AM
I have an email from John's 'organization' to say that the Dallas Seminar will be reposted this week.
I swear, if it disappears this time I will never post anything again!
01-14-2003, 09:57 AM
Originally posted by unicorn91432
I swear, if it disappears this time I will never post anything again! Unicorn
(((Unicorn))) Your time and dedication here is so very much appreciated. Thank you for posting that info!!
Your original post here, regardless if it is on his site *then* or *now*, but will be, is of GREAT importance to many, many people here.........hope you know that :)
01-14-2003, 11:10 AM
Thanks, Cyndy. You made my day!:wave:
01-14-2003, 10:10 PM
I had the exact same thing happen to me last summer for the Chicago seminar! I posted about the seminar and then it was gone!!
Even Telecharge (I think that where I got my tickets) removed the seminar from their site! I thought I was losing my mind!:goofy:
01-14-2003, 10:32 PM
I just phoned my mum!
We're calling for ticket info everyday till we get some!
I'm so there!
Unicorn-as soon as that announcement is reposted, be sure to let us know the EXACT SECOND, the EXACT MOMENT it does.
Shanna (doing summersaults in her PJ's)
01-15-2003, 03:59 PM
I'm still so excited about this-I can hardly contain it.
I mean, chances of me getting read are slim to none-especially at a seminar at a convention center. But to see John LIVE, and IN PERSON.....
:jumper: :goofy: :jumper:
01-15-2003, 04:22 PM
I just wanted to give you prayers and luck on getting to the seminar. If anyone deserves a reading, I would say it would be you. I posted a message about myself and situation on you intro message. I think we can all help each other through this.
I went to John's seminar last June in Chicago and although I didn't get a reading, just being able to be there was a gift in itself. I don't think I would have wanted a reading at that time, because I had just found out that I was pregnant. I gave birth prematurly and my baby passed over 6 days later. I think that John may have been able to see what would have happened had one of my family gotten his attention.
I know someone that I work with that did get a reading from him at that seminar. I had gotten the tickets from her at work and she had not heard of John. I was telling her about him and his show and she decided to go also. She was the one that got the reading. :lwink:
Anyway, my prayers are with you and good luck. Take care...Cary.
01-15-2003, 04:36 PM
Quote--As soon as the announcement is reposted let us know the EXACT SECOND, the EXACT MOMENT to does.
I have better things to do than sitting here staring at John Edward's Web site. Things like--uh-- uh, well, ok, maybe I don't, but can't we at least pretend I do?;)
Actually I check it fairly often. It's easy for me, as I spend most of my day at the computer working on my family genealogy book.:cuser:
01-15-2003, 06:36 PM
Thank you for your reply.
I don't think one is more deserving than another for a reading. We all know what it means to love, and most of us know the intensity of loss.
Your'e right-maybe John didn't want to give you that information-maybe even your own family didn't want to give you that information. You never know.
I think it's kind of luck of the draw. I'm sure soooo many people come through that he kind of picks out the strongest message, sticks with that, and moves along the line. Its impossible to read every single person accuratly in that amount of time. -but I'm sure you already knew that, too!
Hey, unicorn-thanks! I was only kidding, though! LOL
I'll keep trying to get an answer from TicketMaster in my area.
01-15-2003, 08:27 PM
Shanna I am so happy for you that John is coming to Dallas :jumper: I will pray for you that you get a reading, even though as stated in the previous posts it is a wonderful experience just to be there. I was also in Chicago last June and I sat next to a family that received a reading and I found myself praying for them to get a reading the minute that I saw the womens face. The energy is incrediable, you will love it and we of course expect a full report. :D
Unicorn91432 ~ I saw the posting of Dallas on John's site, your not crazy:goofy: and I check the site a couple times a day as well as this one, you are in good company
01-16-2003, 10:20 PM
The date/time/place and ticket number is up on JE's seminar site now:jumper:
Tickets on sale at 10am tomorrow am EST (which means they're probably on sale now:D
01-17-2003, 09:05 AM
The Dallas Seminar is now posted on John's web site.
Dallas Convention Center, February 21, 6:30 to 9:30 pm.
Tickets go on sale January 17 at 10:00 am. Cost: $45.00
For tickets call 1-800-722-4990
01-17-2003, 09:32 AM
Originally posted by unicorn91432
The Dallas Seminar is now posted on John's web site.
Dallas Convention Center, February 21, 6:30 to 9:30 pm.
Tickets go on sale January 17 at 10:00 am. Cost: $45.00
For tickets call 1-800-722-4990
I live in Austin!!
I am sooo there!
I went to see him a year ago in San Antonio and there were two thousand people there....it was so amazing the energy in the room. I did not get a reading but.....I told everyone before I went (which I did by myself) that I did not care if I received a reading...I wanted to lurk in the parking lot and watch people go in.....see who got a reading.....and see that there were no questions asked of them before the show (from JE staff) and therefore prove to me none of this was a hoax.
WELL, I was late like I always am....franticaly ran into the place (like always) and was disappointed not to be able to see the people in the parking lot before the show.
Well, three and a half hours later.....I was walking through a MOB of people in the parking garage and saw one of the women who received a reading with her friend looking for their car and they were both on their cell phones almost screaming with excitement to people on the other end of the phone that they had gotten a reading and the validations they recieved.
That.....was MY validation.
I realized when I was at the Seminar that there were people there who needed a reading so much more than I did and I actually prayed from them to receive a reading rather than me....I said, (in prayer) "please, go to them, they need you so much more than I do". There were people around me clutching pictures of very small children in their hands.....It was amazing to be there and I now know why it is so important to not go there with high expectations....and also why John so badly wants others to learn to do this himself, because there just is not enough of him to go around....................HOLY CRAP!! Did I just explode at the mouth (or fingers) or WHAT?!
I am so sorry for rambling,
Needless to say.....I was going to tell you that I would love to meet up with others when going to the Seminar in Dallas if anyone is interested.
01-17-2003, 09:36 AM
I realized when I was at the Seminar that there were people there who needed a reading so much more than I did and I actually prayed from them to receive a reading rather than me....I said, (in prayer) "please, go to them, they need you so much more than I do". There were people around me clutching pictures of very small children in their hands.....It was amazing to be there and I now know why it is so important to not go there with high expectations....
Annette ~ I felt the exact same way when I was at the Chicago smeniar, when I saw the people holding photos of their babies it broke my heart and seeing John read them filled my heart. I am going to the IL seminar in Feb can't wait to feel that energy again.
01-17-2003, 10:17 AM
:jumper: I just ordered my tickets. Yea. They are finally available. I have been calling since they were supposed to go on sale this AM but they had computer problems getting them.
:jumper: I am so excited. This will be my first experience. I don't even care if I don't get a reading - I just want to be there.:jumper:
01-17-2003, 10:22 AM
One other little bit of information---
This Seminar will be in the Naomi Bruton Theatre and according to that website it only seats 1750 people. This should be a nice change from the 3000 plus at most of John's seminars.
01-17-2003, 11:53 AM
Feb 21, 2003
Dallas Convention Center Theatre Complex
The Black Academy of Arts and Letters
Naomi Bruton Theatre
650 S Griffin St
01-17-2003, 12:34 PM
It doesn't matter how big the audience is, if you are meant to be read, you will be read. I sat in the 3rd row, middle section in Philly, there were about 3,000 people there. People who sat way in the back got read. I didn't! Just not my turn! He looked my way, came towards me, but went right by. When that happens, you sort of slink down in your seat, almost afraid to be read,
(crazy huh?) but hoping you will be.
So go and naturally you want to be as close to the stage as you can be, but if not, if you're meant to be read, you will be.
01-18-2003, 11:19 AM
By the way- Here's a HUGE THANK YOU to Unicorn, forgiveness, and Rudy'sMom- I couldn't have known about any of this without you guys!!!
I called my mother after I ordered the tickets yesterday.
She is SO excited-she called me five times last night asking stuff like, "What time should we get there?" "What are we going to wear?" "How many people does the venue seat?"
I'm beginning to think she's more excited about this than I am!
(Okay, its a close tie)
01-18-2003, 11:35 AM
I'm so excited for you and your mom:jumper: You'll both have a wonderful time, I'm sure!
Bless John for giving so many of us an opportunity to see him this year
Love and light,
01-21-2003, 05:15 PM
For once, my timing was on target.
I've been planning a wedding, along with the holidays, and a big birthday/housewarming party. I figured JE was in Australia, and wouldn't be posting new seminars until Feb or March.
Well, for some strange reason, I had a few minutes and decided to check his site. Lo and behold, there was Dallas.
I screamed, I hollered, then I got on the phone. I've been several times, but no reading YET. (my time's a coming) I was afraid that I'd missed the boat, because as we all know, his seminars sell out fast. I called for tickets a total of three separate times today, (everytime I got a return phone call yelling at me to just GET THEM NOW) and bought each time. It's going to be a family affair.
I'm thrilled that he's coming back to Dallas, and I'm so happy that I can take my entire tribe. Especially the ones who haven't seen him in person. JE prepare thyself! :) We all love you here in this city of ours.
01-23-2003, 08:36 PM
Okay all, I am new to this board, but not to JE. I live in Dallas and DESPRATELY want to go. I just wonder how much difference is there between the seminar and what we see on Crossing Over? I wouldn't even give this a 2nd thought except I am strapped financially. I am trying to find a friend/relative that would also want to go. I don't expect to be read, but I know that I am a reading waiting to happen. ;) I have lost my Dad, Grandfather, Great Grandmother, best friend, & about 5 cousins in the last 12 years. Actually there is more than that, but I would have to stop typing and actually count. I had no hope until I read deb7073's message that they were stilling selling today. I pray that it will all work out so that I can go.:jumper:
Whatever happens, I am so thankful that I have found this website with so many JE supporters to communicate with. :D
Live seminars are 100 times more real, emotional, and meaningful than what you see on Crossing Over. I highly recommend spending the 45.00 for the ticket, and doing whatever else you have to do to get to the seminar.
No, you may not get read, but being there live - in the same room, removes any trace of skepticism you might have about the process, and just being there, makes you part of the process of connecting to the Other Side.
TV is ok, but it only gives you glimpes of what it's really like to be present when this miracle is happening.
Historia, first of all, let me welcome you to the board! :wave:
Secondly, let me say that every seminar I've attended has been exactly like "Crossing Over" -- what you see is what you get. The only difference is that there are only about 150 people in the gallery, and anywhere from 1500-3000 people attending a seminar.
You might be interested in checking out the Testimonials folder, where so many of our members have posted seminar experiences.
01-24-2003, 01:30 PM
Pam and TXJude are right. If there is any way you can make it to the Dallas seminar, I would strongly encourage it. It's a wonderful, uplifting, life (and death) affirming experience. And I promise you won't be disappointed.
And it's true...it's doesn't matter where you sit. In Philly, where there were thousands, (seemed like millions) many of the people who were read sat towards the middle, sides, and back.
And the last time JE was in Dallas, he read a guy in the last row of the balcony, who was sitting against the wall. And that was the best reading of the day. The fact that he was the fire chief of a local suburb didn't hurt either.
My mother has been calling me several times a day, all excited, too.
She didn't know much about John the last time he was in Dallas.
Now, she's a huge fan. I wanted to keep this seminar a secret, and surprise her, but I didn't have the heart. Now she has something HUGE to look forward to.
Half the people I'm going with have seen him in person, and the other half are newbies. It's wonderful to watch the newbies experience the room, JE, and the energy. I'm as excited about them being there as they are!
01-24-2003, 02:07 PM
Thanks to everyone who has posted responses to me, and made me feel so welcomed. I found a friend that is also a fan. It is funny because we did not even know that we both were JE fans until I mentioned it in my office.:cool: She is most likely going to go with me.:jumper: We are going to try & order our tickets this afternoon. I just pray they are not sold out.:rainbow2: I am sooooo excited!:D
01-24-2003, 02:15 PM
It's amazing when you start mentioning JE's name, people come out of the woodwork. My daughter was talking to a friend the other day, and through conversation found out that they were both at his last seminar, but neither thought to mention it.
Let's hope you get your tickets!
We want you THERE!!!!!! :)
01-27-2003, 03:30 PM
According to John's web site, the Dallas and Chicago Seminars are all SOLD OUT.
I hope everyone here who wanted tickets got their order in early. Mine, for the Dallas Seminar, have not arrived yet, and I am not going to be happy until I have them in my grubby little paws!:lwink:
My daughter says I'm driving her crazy---she works at the Post Office and every morning I call her and ask, "Have they come yet? Have they come yet?" I think she's ready to disown me!
01-27-2003, 03:42 PM
So both seminars are sold out? WOW!
I hope everyone I told about it got tickets.
I'm like you, I'm not going to be happy until I have all my tickets in my hand. I called three different times to order tickets, and I just KNOW they told me how long it would be, but do you think I bothered to listen?
Since you're coming in from Alabama, I wish you a very safe trip.
01-27-2003, 04:25 PM
Well, I missed getting tickets! :( I guess it just wasn't meant to happen this time. I would be lying if I did not say I was not disappointed:shrug: I hope all of you that did get tickets have a FANTASTIC time.
01-27-2003, 05:20 PM
I'm so sorry you missed getting tickets.
However, I'd still be watching this site.
Sometimes people have to drop out and will have tickets available. (usually last minute)
I would suggest ebay, but I think you'd pay far too much, and I'm not sure this site approves of going that route. I haven't heard one way or the other.
Don't despair. There's other ways of seeing him.
Don't forget to call the 800# this coming Saturday (first Saturday of the month) for possible tickets to the gallery.
Maybe you're destined for something better?
I have my fingers crossed that JE will decide to have his 5 hour seminar in Dallas. (as well as other cities)
Good luck to you. You never know...
01-27-2003, 05:30 PM
I can't believe it!!! It's like an hour later and my daughter just brought my tickets by!:jumper:
I was hoping for assigned seating but its General Admission. Oh, well, not complaining, I'll take whatever I can get.
Thanks for the safe wishes, deb. We're driving over so we'll take a couple of days. Not fond of being in a car more than eight hours at a stretch! Wish I could :teleport:
01-27-2003, 06:01 PM
As far as I know, they're always general admission.
All the seminars I've been to have been, anyways.
But it truly doesn't matter where you sit for a reading.
Last time he was in Dallas, he walked up and down the aisles as he spoke. But when I saw him in Philly, he stayed on stage.
(of course, it was double the size of the Dallas seminar)
My husband swears that he walked a lot in Austin, too.
I know you're thrilled. I hope to get my tickets soon.
My mother is driving me crazy! :)
I just wish I could remember when they said they'd be sending them out.
I'm with you on travelling by car. You're smart to take it nice and easy.
And we'll pray the perfect weather holds up!
01-27-2003, 06:45 PM
There was assigned seating at the New Orleans Seminar last year. John never left the stage for that one.
Actually, I'm not even sure I want a reading----I know that I don't need one. It is just rewarding to be a part of the energy around John, and to share the healing experiences of those who so need his help.
So I shall be happy however the day turns out.
Historia, if for any reason I can't go, you're welcome to my tickets.
01-28-2003, 11:50 AM
That is really sweet. I certainly hope you are able to go, and thank you for keeping me in mind.:daisy: You are so sweet.
01-28-2003, 12:12 PM
There were assigned seats in New Orleans?
I wonder why they don't do that more often?
I suppose it works both ways. It would just be nice not to have to stand in line. Do I sound spoiled or WHAT? ha ha
I wish I could say that it doesn't matter if I got a reading. It does.
However, I'm very happy to watch the others receive them. It's truly an amazing process. And the energy is just incredible.
I hope it makes the pain somewhat lighter for those who desperately need it.
And, I am so VERY grateful that I'm not one of those who desperately need it. I can't imagine the pain they must feel.
I used to think that I would feel guilty receiving a reading.
I've even gone as far as telling the other side not to bother with me. Knowing that there are so many others who may REALLY need it.
Now, I realize that those who are supposed to get it, will.
(whether we need it or not)
I hear some of the tragic stories, and I'm glad I wasn't one of them. Then I hear a funny story, and I think, 'that's what I want.'
I don't think it's selfishness. I prefer to think of it as human nature. What a wonderful gift to receive from the other side.
Just a simple 'HOWDY.'
(yeah, like that's ALL I'd want!) ;)
Originally posted by deb7073
Now, I realize that those who are supposed to get it, will.
(whether we need it or not)
Or maybe they need it more than even they realize. Or it could be that the message they receive needs to get to someone else -- that ripple effect, you know? :hmm:
01-28-2003, 01:01 PM
Yes, TXJUDE, I think you're absolutely right.
I should have said, 'whether we THINK we need it, or not.'
I didn't want to feel guilty, thinking that someone else 'should' be getting the reading, instead of me. And I know at one time, I would have. (not that I have anything to do with it)
But, it was an issue with me, and I've had to argue with myself about it.
Eventually, I realized that it's not about ME at all.
Has absolutely NOTHING to do with ME.
It's about the process.
You're right. I may not 'need it.' But I personally know many people who DO. And through me, they could get the message they need. And it would also be a wonderful experience to have a loved one just say HOWDY.
Of course, all this means nothing. I told my husband last night that I'd just freeze up if he ever came to me anyways.
I'd forget my own name. Much less all the others.
01-28-2003, 08:36 PM
Originally posted by TXJUDE
Or maybe they need it more than even they realize. Or it could be that the message they receive needs to get to someone else -- that ripple effect, you know? :hmm:
Interesting point being discussed. I had a Gallery reading last year and did have some guilt about it. I looked around the room and saw many disappointed faces - I felt so special that out of 175 people in attendance, I was one of only 7 readings that day. Then I thought, why me and not them? I felt almost embarrassed afterward that people were leaving so sad not hearing from their loved ones and I was floating on a cloud. The majority of the reading wasn't even for me , but more of a message that I needed to deliver to others, although it effected me more than I could have ever imagined at the time. It's hard to describe, but if I had to find one word right now, it would be fulfilling .
01-29-2003, 10:45 AM
Was it almost bitter sweet for you?
I don't know if I would be able to look into the eyes of those who were in REAL pain.
I'm sure I'd feel much better after delivering the messages.
But it would be difficult to initially walk away seeing all those faces.
It's probably something that JE has learned to deal with, multiplied by a million.
Makes me respect him that much more.
Are there usually an average of 7 readings in the gallery per day?
02-03-2003, 05:00 PM
Historia, Could you email me please?
02-03-2003, 05:41 PM
I tried to e-mail you though your profile, but the system said you had chosen not to receive e-mails through that method. I do not have the ability to instant message.
02-03-2003, 05:46 PM
I edited my user profile so that you can e-mail me.
02-16-2003, 04:18 PM
Hi Historia! Welcome to the board. I've been here on the board for about a year and a half, but have only been lurking here for the past few months. No time to really post. But HAD to get on here to talk about the Dallas seminar.
I got tickets the first couple days they were on sale and SO glad I did. Went to the San Antonio seminar last year (my first) and couldnt' BELIEVE when I learned he was coming to Dallas.
Anyway, the reason for my post is this -- I'd recommend putting an ad in the newspaper, even just for a day or two if you can afford it, and ask if anyone has extra tickets. Also, WATCH the paper to see if anyone is advertising any. We had an extra ticket last year and were able to get rid of it thanks to an ad in the paper. And what was so amazing was that the woman who bought our extra ticket (and three other extra tickets from friends we made in line) got the first reading of the seminar. Talk about someone NEEDING a reading. So although my group didn't get a reading, we felt as though we did because this woman, the one who NEEDED our extra ticket, needed the reading SO badly. (It was her brother who came through -- they had been VERY close and he had been killed in a police ambush, a drug bust gone bad. He and two of his fellow deputies had been hit in the gunfire and she hadn't had a chance to say goodbye to him. It was AMAZING!!)
Anyway, check the papers and even do an ad yourself if you're so inclined. You might get lucky!! I'll be keeping my fingers crossed for you!! --Beth
02-17-2003, 09:09 AM
Thanks so much for your reply. I was VERY fortunate to be able to get 4 tickets from wonderful members of this site who sold them to me at face value after learning they could not use them. It is incredible. I still cannot believe it!!!! Thanks again.
02-17-2003, 09:20 AM
:jumper: Hurray, Historia! This site is SO terrific and the people here so warm and wonderful. (I've missed not being able to come here more often, but been so busy.)
So glad you get to come to the seminar. My sister is coming down for it and she's going to go to the convention center early to get in line. Then once my kids are home from school and the babysitter gets here, I'll head down with her. Have to meet my husband somewhere near his office too so we dont' have three cars down there. I'm so excited that he gets to go this time -- last time, we couldn't find a sitter for the weekend since it was out of town. But now that it's in Dallas, having a sitter for the night is no biggie. So he gets to come too!!!! :thumbsup:
Asked the woman on the phone when I ordered tickets how many there were. She said 1400 for this event. Better than San Antonio last year when there were 2400!!
I wonder how many others from the board will be going. Anyone started a headcount yet? :crowd:
Counting down to Friday!! YIPPEE! :D
02-17-2003, 11:00 AM
I'm so glad to hear that Historia will be making the seminar. Where there's a will, there's a way.
I've got 9 going in my party.
My husband, my mother, my daughter in law, friend, my daughter and son in law, and one of my sons and his wife. Oh, and ME.
We're also trying to figure out how to keep the cars to a minimum. Thank goodness for SUV's! And we'll be going to town against traffic, too. On a Friday, that's a plus for sure.
We saw JE in this same auditorium a few years ago.
On that trip, one of my sons, my daughter, my husband and myself went.
I didn't realize the place held 1400 people.
I thought it was a large venue until I saw him in a few other places. I'm grateful his people selected this place.
There's not a bad seat in the house.
But as I wrote in an earlier message, one of his readings was for a guy sitting in the last row of the balcony. So fortunately, it doesn't matter where we sit. If it's meant to be, it'll happen.
I'm just praying the rain stops before Friday afternoon!
02-17-2003, 11:24 AM
I'm anxious to see this place. Haven't ever been there. We'll be coming from a northern suburb, so we'll be going against traffic too. I've got to get on Mapquest and find out exactly where this is. Any issues with parking there? Have to pay to park? Just curious.
02-17-2003, 12:58 PM
We can only hope Central Exp won't be giving us too many problems. Like sporting events or concerts in the area.
Let me ask hubby about parking fees and location.
I honestly can't remember.
(anything over two days is automatically erased from my memory)
And I 'think' the last seminar here was on a weekend.
Again, I could be wrong.
The biggest problem is going to be the downtown traffic.
I want to say the venue is attached to the convention center, but again, it's been too long. I'll ask...
02-17-2003, 03:44 PM
:jumper: Head count for me is 4. My Mom, my best friend since elementary school, her husband and me! Obviously you guys have been before, this is my first time. We will most likely be sitting in the back because I have to work that day, and even leaving early, I will still not make it there early. Plus, my Mom is disabled and cannot stand in line for long. So, glad to hear there is not a bad seat in the house. I am sooooo excited just to be there and experience this.
I work just south of your suburb, so I too will be going against traffic, but you never know what Central is going to throw at you these days. I have not even looked up where the auditorium is. However, if you guys find out anything important about parking post or e-mail me. Good Luck to all, and lets plan to debrief the whole session on the boards afterwards. :cuser:
I can't wait for the 21st!
02-17-2003, 04:01 PM
Looks like we're all going to be coming up (or down) Central in the same direction. You're right about never knowing what's going to hit us. The high five is a BEAR!
Depending on where you are, there's always George Bush to the Dallas Tollway, and down to Stemmons, but again, who knows the best way on a Friday. It changes like the weather.
I do believe the venue is a localized auditorium of the convention center, on the outskirts of downtown. As soon as hubby gets out of his meeting, I'll ask him. To save my life, I just can't remember. (not surprising)
My mother is getting soooo excited. She's still not over the fact that I didn't ask her to go the first time he was here. But, I had no idea she even knew who he was.
(I still don't think she did) ha ha
He was talking at the last Dallas seminar about one time when he was still somewhat of an unknown, and in town for readings.
He was at the Intercontinental Hotel on the tollway. Apparently it snowed that night, and as everyone who lives in the area knows, the city completely shuts down. There were only five people in the audience! Can you IMAGINE????
I swear if I'd been there and hadn't got a reading THAT night, I'd never talk to my deceased loved ones again! :)
02-17-2003, 05:46 PM
Funny, Deb! rofl I'd have given my right ARM to be in an audience with only 4 or 5 other people and JE. Can you IMAGINE???? When my sister and I went to a seminar of one of his contemporaries last year and saw only about 150 people there, we were SO wishing it was JE we had come to see and not who we had gone there to see. (This small seminar was AFTER we had been to see JE along wtih the 2400 other people in the San Antonio hotel with us.) I'd LOVE to be in the gallery, but sadly never have the opportunity to get to New York.
Yep, the High 5 is a bear, but I remember how awful Central was through Richardson and Dallas when we first moved here and look how beautiful it is now. We only have to wait, what? Another 6 years or so. AUGH!!! It'll be worth the wait, but until then, I avoid it whenever I can. - Beth
02-17-2003, 08:39 PM
I too would of course love to be in that audience of 5 with JE!!!
I remember when Central was just 2!!!!! Lanes! You want to talk about a nightmare. I was pretty young, but I remember some pretty colorful language coming out of the mouths of my parents.;) I just finished a 2 hr. open house (I teach High School). That makes it a LONG day, :goofy: so I am heading home!!
Hope to hear from you guys soon.
02-18-2003, 09:39 AM
I've only had to contend with N. Central (on a regular basis) for the past six months.
I try to avoid it whenever possible. I prefer driving the neighborhood roads. I'm a speed demon behind the wheel, and that tends to slow me down, whether I want it to or not.
Everyone says they prefer staying off LBJ, but that freeway never bothered me. Go figure!
Yes, all we have is SIX more years before the high five is complete. And of course by that time, it'll be obsolete. There's no winning with the streets in any major city. (121 is going to be the next bear) The roads will always be obsolete.
Oh well... I guess I could move to Bonham! :)
Hubby said that we had no trouble parking last time. He said that he let us out in front, parked, and was in line with us within a few minutes. He also said that he did pay for the parking, but can't remember how much.
The venue is an auditorium in the old convention center.
He's not sure how we went last time. Maybe Reunion to Griffin and turn right. I think it's on the corner of Griffin and Young.
They say we're supposed to have storms. I sure hope it stops raining before Friday afternoon. I'm not asking for MUCH, am I? But since I am asking for a weather change, I may as well ask for a reading, too. Right? ;)
02-18-2003, 11:03 AM
Called the venue this morning for directions and parking info. The woman said parking is available in convention center, but it'd be a walk, and it's $8. She said parking is just an on-your-own kind of thing by their auditorium. And it's located at the corner of Canton and Akard. The directions recording said coming from the north to take 75 to I-30, I-30 to Ervay exit, right to Canton, left on Canton to Akard and they're on the northwest corner. The church I attend is on Forest between Hillcrest and Preston, so I may just jog on downtown after church WEdnesday night to check it out. Then I won't be dealing with awful traffic and can get my bearings.
Getting more and more excited about Friday. I feel strange this time around. Last year before the San antonio seminar, I was watching JE twice a day. Didn't miss it! This year, I've hardly seen any of the new season. Since they moved it to noon here (the syndicated version), it's just too hard for me to catch very often. So I feel a little "out of the loop". Just can't wait to get back IN the loop!! :jumper: - Beth
02-18-2003, 11:24 AM
WOW! Nothing like my husband said, is it? ha ha
He told me last night that there's parking lots across from the auditorium, and down from it. But he could be wrong.
I do remember him getting in line with us very shortly after we were dropped off.
Canton and Akard? The actual address of the auditorium is
650 S. Griffin St.
However, I think all those streets run together down in that area.
It's been so many years since I was in that area on a regular basis, I just can't remember.
We still have trouble finding the Majestic, the few times a year we go.
Preston and Hillcrest? My brain must be foggy today. Don't those streets parallel?
I think I'm going crazy....(never far from it to begin with) :goofy:
If you drive down there on Wednesday, please let me know the best way to go.
I wouldn't worry so much about it, except my son will be following us, and Lord have mercy, he's worse at driving than I am.
Do you normally watch the SciFi channel for your JE fix?
I try to watch JE everyday when I can, and tevo when I can't.
Everytime I think I've heard it all, he'll come up with something new and enlightning. Usually something I've never thought about before.
(psst...whisper in my ear and tell me who you saw before that wasn't JE) I want to make sure I don't spend my time seeing them. Although, there's only two others besides JE that I would spend my time or money to see anyways.
02-18-2003, 12:50 PM
You're right... those streets do all go together. They probably gve the directions so you'd hit the one-ways the right way. I always get lost thanks to all those one way streets down there.
And you're right too about Hillcrest and Preston...the church is on Forest BETWEEN those two streets, so it's a quick jump on to Central to check out the parking situation.
As for the other medium we went to see.... without getting into anything here that Pam would frown on (we had a BIG discussion about it on Spirit Discovery.com awhile back).... let me give some hints. She was very involved with him in the Life Afterlife experiments and has been a good friend of his for a long time. That's why my sister and I were so excited. And her book was really good. Love her ideas.... entertaining but a little scary to experience in person. Did that give it away?
I'll let you know if I get to check out the venue. Until then, I'll be counting down the hours!:lwink:
02-18-2003, 01:11 PM
I have NO idea who you're talking about.
You can see that I don't take hints very well, either. :confused:
That's alright. I don't want to get anyone upset.
If I don't already know who it is, then it's not someone I would probably want to see anyways.
Yes, please let me know if you decide to drive downtown on Wednesday. I know what you mean about the one ways.
Downtown wasn't a huge problem for me until they changed the streets. Now, I'm clueless.
If you go to church on Forest, and you live in Mckinney, you have one heck of a drive, don't you?
02-18-2003, 01:54 PM
Shoot... was going to email you the answer to my little puzzle, but can't. SpiritDiscovery.com is a website Pam (our JE board creator) set up with the help of the other moderators who each took subjects on.... so that we could have more in-depth spiritual discussions aside from just JE and Crossing Over. A bunch of us had started comparing mediums as well as starting big discussions about spiritual grown, reincarnation, angels, various spiritual/metaphysical authors and teachers, etc. so that website was created to allow for ALL that kind of free-range discussion to take place. In fact, for awhile, I was so involved over there, I kept forgetting to check in over here!! When you have mucho-time, it's a GREAT place to find out all about angels and auras and life afterlife, as well as all the various religious doctrines, to name just some of the subject matter.
As far as church.... yep, we have a bit of a hike, but this church was just IT for me whe I first went there in November to hear Caroline Myss speak. (Had seen her on Oprah and got started on her audio books -- she's a medical intuitive, AMAZING gift.) Anyway, this church was hosting her speech that day, so my sister drove down and we went. We had kind of been discussing trying to find a church when we started having kids, but my husband and I just never could settle on one to even try. The minute I walked into this place, I felt completely at home, like this was where I always had needed to be. So we started going. And my husband really liked it too, as did the kids. It's only a 25 minute drive, so it's not bad at all. Very easy shot down 75 to Forest and then west a couple miles.
As far as the other medium.... I woudl never have known about her if not for John's books when he mentions her and the LIfe Afterlife documentary that got circulated around the Spirit Discovery board last year (and aired on HBO last summer). You can find discussions about her at this link:
(Dont' know if that will take you right there or if you'll need to copy it and paste. You'll need to look around through dates. Looks like it's been awhile since anyone discussed her. Initials are S.N.)
Have fun if you get a chance to look around that board. EVERYTHING you could possibly want to discuss on spirituality is there, including indepth discussions of JE and his contemporaries. Enjoy! - Beth
02-18-2003, 02:15 PM
I'll make my trek over to the other site. It sounds VERY interesting, and one I think I'd greatly enjoy.
Caroline Myss is amazing. What church would have her speak?
There's a spiritual nondenominational type church near Addison that I've wanted to try. They had commercials during the JE shows a few months ago. Of course, have I tried it yet? Of course NOT!
I'm not sure if we're allowed to discuss churches and such on this site. I'm trying to be careful, because I truly don't want to offend anyone. I mean, if I were going to offend someone, it wouldn't be HERE. Life's too short. :)
Is JE's friend the one who died last year? I can't remember what her name is. I remember thinking how sad it was.
02-18-2003, 02:32 PM
No, not the friend who died (Shelley Peck). This one is stil very much alive and VERY animated.
Not that you would offend anyone here, but Pam is terrific about keeping everyone in line and on topic (JE and Crossing Over), which IS the purpose of this board. That's why Spirit Discovery board is so terrific -- she designed it to allow us to talk about ANYTHING of the spiritual/metaphysical nature there.
This church we're going to is quite interesting and has a good-sized congregation. Have never seen a commercial, but have HEARD commercials for our church on the radio (KVIL at night). It is apparently quite a controversial church in come circles, although I find it the most warm, accepting place I've ever been. :angel2: And my husband, who was born and raised in the middle of the Bible belt, REALLY likes it. That's saying A LOT! But then I guess I'll save that discussion for other topics and not the Dallas Seminar thread. :thumbsup: - Beth
02-18-2003, 02:46 PM
I agree that this shouldn't be discussed on this thread.
HOWEVER... I'd like to know what church it is that you're talking about.
I'll find the other discussion group as soon as I can.
Maybe (just maybe) I can find the answer (at some point) over there??? Or, will I have to drive on Forest between Preston and Hillcrest? (I can do that) :P
Thanks for the info.
And let me know about your ride to downtown Dallas tomorrow night.
My son and mother have both been driving me crazy today about the seminar. My son has already gone once, but apparently he takes after his mother, and once just wasn't enough. :)
02-18-2003, 03:21 PM
deb7073 and bshumate! You girls are just having too much fun!
It has been way too long since I have been to this site and communicated with all these wonderful people!
bshumate is my beloved sister and I am SO excited that she got an email from the JE site and got our tickets for the Dallas seminar! We were more than thrilled last year to see JE in San Antonio and what an experience we had. We had been told last year that people from this site attending the seminars usually take a pink rose with them so we can identify each other. I seriously did not see another rose! Maybe this time we will see some of our online friends!
I was glad to read that there are no bad seats! Fantastic! And it is so true about where you sit ... does not matter if you are to get a reading! So many at the San Antonio seminar were in the VERY BACK ROW! JE is SO amazing. I have continued to try to be somewhat skeptical just to test the readings ... but he is SO the real thing. So excited to get to see him a second time!!!
Look forward to seeing others there!!! See you on the 21st!
02-18-2003, 04:22 PM
WOW Kathie, you sound like a ball of fun yourself. Not enough of your type around. That's for sure.
I saw several pink roses at the Philly seminar, (from a distance) but there were thousands of people at that one. So the percentage was rather low. A few people wore the CAV sweatshirts, too. I did have an opportunity to converse with them, and they were wonderful, friendly people.
I was somewhat of a skeptic at one time, also. I'm a little skeptical about most things until proven otherwise. And I beg to be proven otherwise! When it comes to this, I don't mind being wrong.
Not because I don't believe life on the other side is possible, because I've always believed, even as a child.
But I had trouble believing there were people out there who could bring these people to us. Because as you know, 99% of the ones out there who say they CAN either pretend they can, (and I've known a few of them) or they actually think they can, (know a few of those too) but really can't.
I used to be active in the 'alternative thinking' community in Dallas. And I can tell you that very few have the talents they think they have.
So, I tell people to watch JE for a solid week. Just give him ONE week, then decide. I've never had a person come back to me yet that took a week to watch, then said he was a hoax. Not a one.
Because invaribly, he'll pull out information that just can't be argued with. Sure someone with a completely closed mind can argue about what he comes up with, but they're so closed, they wouldn't know the truth if it hit them in the face anyways.
No matter what the real truth is.
We all know and love a few of them, don't we?
So, God bless JE for his talents and for his heart.
That's all I can say.
And sure I want to be read. I'd be lying if I said I didn't. Don't we all? But hey, the experience alone is worth the price of a ticket.
I hope we can ALL find each other in the masses on Friday. Wouldn't that be a hoot?
02-18-2003, 05:08 PM
Alright, you girls have been too busy today (haha) :D
I just read all the recent postings, since I could not get to my e-mail until after school was out. If anyone makes the drive before Friday, I would love to know too, because I get sooooo lost downtown, and I do not live that far from it. However, I avoid it like the plague. I need to sit down and write down all the birthdays and significant dates of relatives & friends that have crossed over, JUST IN CASE. At least, I have been told to do that. Is that what you guys do? Any hints or suggestions are welcomed. I definately think I am the most excited of all my group. I am currently reading "One Last Time." I read "Crossing Over" first (I know, backwards, but that is just me:goofy: )
It really doesn't matter, but I am going to finish it before Friday. It sounds like each of you have such wonderful spirits.
Keep Counting the Minutes,
02-18-2003, 05:10 PM
Hey guys - I need some positive thoughts. I have tickets to see JE friday in Dallas but my sitter/daughter cancelled due to an obligation at school. Now, I can't find anyone to take her place. Everyone is busy. I will keep trying but I am getting a little bit nervous.
02-18-2003, 05:28 PM
:eek: I will definitely keep you in my thoughts. that would be so disappointing. Don't give up, I am sure there is someone who could sit for you. Possibly one of your daughter's friends, someone from church... Good Luck!
02-18-2003, 05:31 PM
Twinky are you in the DFW area?
If so, surely we can find an excellent soul to take on the job.
Historia, yes, I have a LONG LONG list of names and dates.
Of course, being the anal (and organized) one of the family,
and knowing I'd be the one to freeze up, or help others that may freeze, I have friends and family names as far back as I know.
AND they're all in alphabetical order by first name.
AND then in alphabetical order by how they died.
(everyone with heart attacks, everyone in accidents, etc)
And yes, you guessed it. Alphabetical order by dates.
It's only three pages, but I can flip to any of the pages at a moment's notice. Name, death, dates.
I keep it in an envelope with JE's name on it. Anytime I go to a seminar, I just grab and put it in my BIG purse, along with a pad and pencil.
Hey, you NEVER KNOW when all this info may come in handy!
I like being PREPARED for ANYTHING! ;)
02-20-2003, 12:35 AM
Well, gang. I headed down there tonight to get a sense of where it is. I followed the instructions given on their voicemail instructions recording and missed the turn off to Ervay. (The sign was kinda hidden behind a post until I was past it! AUGH!) SO I looped around and came at it from the north on Griffin street headed down toward the convention center. Just in FRONT of the convention center (where those statues of the cattle drive cattle and horses are), I turned left onto Young Street (headed east). At the light, you can merge onto a road to the right called Marilla, which goes right in front of the northeastern side of the cenvention center where there is a drop off place to the arenas. Then you come to a light at Canton. Right on Canton and the The Black Academy of Arts and Letters is right there. I drove around this loop several times looking for parking.
Best I can tell, you have to park IN the convention center parking or maybe city hall parking. (City Hall, that ODD building, is just ont he other side of Canton from the convention center. I'm wondering if there is parking there. Or in the library across Young Street. Anyway, parking may be an issue and the receptionist at the TBAAL office wasn't all that forthcoming wtih parking info -- "Parking is just kind of on your own." Okay. Oh well.....Any streets around this square (Canton, Marilla, Akard, Young) will get you there. Just remember it's on the City Hall side of the convention center.
If anyone else has been here, PLEASE give us some input so we'll know what to expect. Parking situation may be easier to assess during the day -- I was there around 9:15 when there IS no traffic (just lots of homeless people wandering around!)...
Counting the hours -- Beth
02-20-2003, 08:34 AM
Well, my husband got the parking info ALL wrong, didn't he?
Last time I listen to HIM!
I spoke to my daughter last night and she said that since she was a firefighter at the time, we parked at the fire station.
Why hubby wouldn't remember that is beyond me.
They dropped us off beforehand, so I didn't know.
She's going to be at a fire dispatch something or other seminar at city hall beforehand, (which is where she works now) so she's parking underground at the city hall parking, then walking over.
Apparently, they're all connected.
But she spoke to the people at the convention center yesterday and they said the covered parking is the easiest thing to do.
(she said that woman wasn't very forthcoming with info either)
The way we'll be driving is N Central to Woodall Rogers and exit at Field/Griffin and continue down Griffin to the venue.
This is how she goes to work.
But I'm going to write down your instructions too. (just in case)
I'm sorry about messing up the parking info.
I don't know WHERE he got that memory from. Probably Austin.
Thanks sooooo very much for driving down there. That was so sweet of you. You probably saved us all from getting an ulcer, or having an argument. Both being huge possibilities! :(
02-20-2003, 09:31 AM
Must have worked. Right after I left the post I went to work and a co- worker overheard me calling possible sitters and volunteered to keep my little angel.
Thanks all for the help!
02-20-2003, 09:42 AM
Isn't it amazing how wonderful people pop up when we need them the most? And all that was needed was a few good thoughts and to openly speak up.
Take that woman to lunch! She's a gem!
Now, you think we can send good thoughts for the rain to go away by tomorrow?????
02-20-2003, 11:00 AM
Obviously we are all meant to be there together! How neat is this going to be! Woohoo! So glad the pieces are falling into place!:daisy:
02-20-2003, 02:14 PM
Deb, Woodall to Griffin is probably how we'll go too. That's the way I wound UP going after I missed the Ervay exit off I-30... looped back around to Woodall and then too Field/Griffin exit. I think that's MUCH easier than getting in that I-45/I-30 mess......
02-20-2003, 02:42 PM
My daughter just stopped by and pulled out the mapsco, trying to show me how she goes. The mapsco was useless, (because everything comes together in that spot and I couldn't read anything) but she did explain it all to me.
SHE says go N Central to Woodall Rogers,
Exit Field, then turn LEFT from the MIDDLE lane.
This lane runs into Griffin. Go straight.
Then SHE says (and this is where I can't see it in my mind's eye)
Go Griffin to Young and turn LEFT.
Go to Akard and turn RIGHT.
Look for parking.
Then SHE said something about driving through the building and parking in the covered parking??????
Do you have any idea what she's talking about here?
It turns out, we're taking three cars afterall. Nobody seems to be able to get there at the same time. So it looks like I'm the one who is getting stuck standing in the rain.
NO, I'm not complaining. (ok, maybe a little)
02-20-2003, 02:50 PM
Yep, Deb. Understand. That's the thing I wound up doing twice last night to see. When you go onto Akard and turn right, you are going UNDER the convention center, under where the old part and new additions connect, and thats where you access parking. I think it's about $8 to park. When we went to a seminar with another medium in a hotel in downtown Dallas last year, we got them to validate, wich was going to knock a couple bucks off,. Then we stood around and talked to people for a bit afterwards and when we left, it was just after 10:00 p.m. and the parking attendant was gone and the gate up, so we just drove out and didnt have to pay to park at all. Think we'll be so lucky at the convention center? We'll see!!! --
02-20-2003, 03:10 PM
Thanks so very very VERY much for clearing ALL this up.
I don't know why every major city has one area that's confusing.
Actually, all of downtown Dallas is confusing to me, and has been for the past 20 years. (it used to be so easy)
You've got my curiosity up again about the OTHER medium you saw. As well as trying to figure out what church you're talking about. If I have time, I'm going to try and take a drive over to Forest Ln this weekend.
02-20-2003, 03:18 PM
I know, Deb. I agree. We've been here 16 years and there are three areas that never fail at totally confounding me. Always have to drive around and around to figure out where I am: downtown Dallas, Grapevine and D/FW airport. The rest of the area, I'm okay in!!
As far as Forest, there is only one church that I can think of on Forest between Hillcrest and Preston. DOesn't look like a church, but there is a sign out front by the big parking lot. On the north side of the street. <hint hint>
HOpe we meet up at the seminar some how. WOuld be fun! - beth
02-23-2003, 10:15 AM
So, tell me what you thought about the seminar.
Personally, I thought he was as entertaining and enlightning as ever. It still amazes me how he can inflict tears and laughter at the same time. And some of the info he comes up with is amazing. (I loved the cookie muncher story)
I thought he was 'right on' with most every reading.
(Even if he did have a few participants who were less than knowledgeable about their friends and family.)
On the other hand, many of the readings weren't as in depth as in some of his other seminars. (I don't think it was his fault on a few of them) Actually, it's nobody's fault. It is what it is.
And, my mother had trouble hearing the first 1 1/2 hours.
So you know how much fun THAT was.
And my son was sniffling and coughing behind me all evening.
(poor thing... he felt so bad, and then proceeded to give it to ME)
And it was hot in the auditorium.
Other than THAT, I thought it was great.
I can't wait to see him again.
You've got to hand it to him. He has one amazing gift.
It was nice to see Lydia Clark. (is that her last name?)
I hope everyone made it home safe and sound.
02-23-2003, 12:50 PM
The Dallas seminar was my third and I thought it was great. I went to Amarillo, San Antonio and this one. None will ever equal the excitement of the first one and I haven't had a reading at any, but they were still wonderful. I thought in the readings he went a little more into what was happening in the people's lives than he usually does rather than just validations of the person coming through. In a way I wish he would spend less time on each reading and get to more people - just one tiny validation would be good enough for me! But I guess he has no control over that. Loved the one where he told the lady she was expecting and advised her to pick up a test kit afterward. She told him she had intended to do it that morning but hadn't had time with flying in for the seminar!
He is great both with his wonderful gift and his wit and sense of humor.
02-23-2003, 09:18 PM
This was my 4th, and I must say that I never tire of listening to him. He is soooo funny! And it's amazing how much I learn at each seminar.
We felt the readings were a little different this time, too. I think you're right, he did delve more into the lives of each person.
I hadn't really seen him do that before. Not to that extent anyways.
And I also agree that it would be GREAT if he could validate and move on. But we both know that's not possible. He's working as hard as he can. (but it's our fantasy, so it would STILL be nice!)
I just got a little frustrated because some of the people were just not cooperating. I'm sure they tried, but STILL...
(I'm sure you know which ones I'm talking about)
And he did warn the rest of us that there may be times when we'll want to slap these people silly! ha ha
(can you imagine how HE must feel?)
I'd love to know whether that woman is indeed pregnant.
That was a great reading. To think they flew here from McAllen, got to the seminar late, and still got such a fantastic reading.
You didn't find it hot in there? Where were you sitting?
I agree that the excitement of the first time could only be repeated by an actual personal reading.
The first time I saw him was in Dallas, a few years back.
Then Austin, Philly, and again in Dallas.
And I'll be standing in line the next time he's anywhere I can see him.
I just love watching him in person. And to feel the dynamic energy swirling all around that place is always incredible.
I don't like the fact that each time I've gotten a headache about ten minutes before he comes on stage. But fortunately, it disappears within a few minutes after he comes out.
It's as if he comes out and calms all those spirits down.
In my mind, I see him basically handing them a number and having them take a seat until their called.
Sounds crazy, but I have no other way of explaining it.
He just has a way of calming all that energy down.
I am in awe of his talents and his sense of humor.
And I truly respect the way he can put his ego aside and remain a modest, normal human being. That's amazing to me.
02-24-2003, 09:00 AM
Did you notice that the "Pregnant" woman was sitting at the very back of the balcony section? It really doesn't matter how early you arrive or where you sit, if you are meant to get a reading you will.:)
02-24-2003, 10:07 AM
Well, that was my 1st seminar, and we sat in the balcony in the far left side of the balcony if you are facing the BACK of the auditorium. It was the section that kept getting read. I totally loved JE, he is so much more personable and charismatic in person. However, I think I screwed up BIG time. I had taken all of your advice and prepared lists of relatives that had crossed over by dates (birth, death...) and by cause of death. So I had this binder full of information. Okay now here it gets bizarre, and I need someone's help interpreting this.
Remember when he said he was coming to that back section (ours) & said he had the feeling of 2 murders in one family or 2 families with a murder? Then he said, 1 was more deliberate & 1 was less deliberate. Immediately the one woman below & to the right of us stood up and stated she thought it was about her son being killed by his mother-in-law, but could not really confirm the other. Then 2 women behind us stood up & it seemed they went with the reading. Their grandmother had been killed by a richocheting bullet. John said I guess that could account for the "bang Bang" I heard, but did not seem convinced at first. The other validations were:
1. Father-figure was there
2. Someone has a connection to education (school buses...)
3. The #14 is significant
4. There were 2 "S's"
At this point my Mom and I were ready to stand up, becuase EVERYTHING fit us personally on the DOT!!!!
Then he asked who the "Laura" or LR name was. That we could not figure out. The woman in front of us was crying because she wanted it to be about her relative that was murdered. That distracted us, and then he said the thing about someone who falls alot. The women behind us could validate about 1/2 of his message. He at one point said, "yeah, I guess I could be with you." He finished up by warning them of falling in the future. At this point (after the reading was finished), my Mom & I were still combing through our lists looking for the LR name. After the show I mentioned to the women behind us how much there reading fit us, except for the LR name. So they started questioning us, because they seemed to think it was weird that so little came through that they could validate. So here is our validations to it all:
1. 2 murders in our family: First one was my great grandmother's siblings, one shot by an intoxicated neighbor in the 1930's who thought my great-uncle had called the police on the neighbor for making moonshine.
The second was his sister who was killed (it has been a long family question if accidental or murder) as she and her husband had jumped in their truck to chase after a bob cat on their farm. The butt of the gun was on the floorboard and when they hit a bump it went off killing her. Some relatives thought she was murdered by her husband.
2. Fatherfigure: My Mom's husband had died, & her father & my grandfather had died. My grandfather was the only constant father figure in my life. His favorite aunt on my grandmother's side was the one killed in the truck above.
3. 14th: My Mom & I both share a birthday on the 14th of July, & my grandfather & his Mom both shared a birthday on the 14th of June.
4. School: I am a teacher & lived with him and my grandmother while I was in college getting my degree.
5. 2"S's"- both my Mom & I have names that begin with S.
6. Falling: My Mom has fallen several times and has severe arthritus. In fact she barely made it up to her seat. She has fallen or nearly fallen 4 times in the last month. At one point in time we used to make fun of her (all in good fun). She fell down a cliff on a family vacation at Turner Falls when I was little, and broke her leg. My grandparents were with us & drove us to the hospital. This is just one of the numerous time she has fallen. My grandfather had the same arthritus. He fell alot when he as sick & I lived with them.
Then the LR name. As I was speaking to the people behind us, we told them we too could not figure out the "LR" name. I opened up the binder I had and one of the ladies immediately pointed at the name "Lillie Redden." This was a sister of the 2 killed and the only relative that insisted my great aunt was killed by her husband. Then later we found out that the dead aunt also had a great-grandaughter named Lauren. Not to mention that the two killed had a brother named Luther that married the murdered uncle's wife later. My first name has a LR name, but in its spelling uses "RL" like "Charlie" which was the name of the murdered great-uncle, and my uncle (the father figure's son) has a company whose name(2 words) start with L & R.
I keep saying that if it were meant for us, we would have stood up, but both my Mom and I were afraid we would be takiing away from someone else's reading. You know relative stealing. What do you guys think? Is it just coincedental? Am I trying to make this into something more than it is? I want your truthful opinion on this. These references to my great aunt & uncle would be the LAST think we would have expected to come through. I have had a total depressed feeling since Saturday over this. I would give anything if I could go back and stand up just to see what JE would say. After all I went through to get there, this just seems so bizarre. PLease share ALL opinions ASAP!!!
02-24-2003, 10:15 AM
True, Twinky! I keep telling the story about the last time he was in Dallas. He read the guy in the last row of the balcony. It was the fire chief of a Dallas suburb. And it was one of the best readings I've EVER heard.
Many of his readings were in the balcony. I made a comment to my husband after this seminar that NEXT TIME, I'm sitting in the balcony.
In fact... NEXT TIME, I'm going to have all my people scattered all over the auditorium.
(just in case he's 'hot' in any one area) :lwink:
I had to laugh about the family who was trying to figure out the drowning, and the woman kept making up her own stories that had NOTHING to do with a drowning. With ANY drowning.
I didn't know whether to laugh or jump over a couple of rows and shake her.... HARD! OK, it would have made ME feel better. :rolleyes:
Now, I'm hoping and praying that he brings the same multi medium seminar to Dallas as the one he's doing in Vegas. There's a possiblity, and I want to stay on top of it.
02-24-2003, 10:44 AM
Historia...what can I say but WOW! I do remember that reading. And it was one that JE didn't seem to sink his teeth into because most of the reading didn't seem to pertain to any ONE person.
Gads, I hate to bring you down further, but you did ask.
Yes, it does sound like that reading may have been for you.
But I'm on THIS side of the story. And only you would know whether it was for YOU. And I would think JE would know if he was reading the 'right' person. And usually, I'd say he absolutely does know. But I remember this one being a little different.
A little unclear.
I suppose I can understand why you didn't stand up. He really bangs it into our heads about relative stealing. This time more so, for some reason. And I can well understand your hesitancy in standing up, considering everyone around you had already taken their stance.
But the way I'm getting it from you, it sounds as if it was specifically for you.
As I said, I remember that story, and it just wasn't a 'right on' reading. But I remember him not understanding how someone couldn't immediately pounce on the information being given.
There may have been a few who stood up wanting it to be theirs, instead of who it was intended for.
You were all in that immediate area. It could have been for any of you.
If it was intended for you, I can't imagine how you must be feeling.
But remember that if it was yours, then YOU own it, whether you stood up or not. These people came through for you and your family. And you can take comfort (little comfort right now, I'm sure) in knowing that whether you immediately acknowledged it or not doesn't matter. They were there for you, and they are STILL there for you. If you think it was meant for you, thank them for trying. I know you're frustrated, and I really feel for you.
02-24-2003, 11:17 AM
I think I feel a bit better with someone else saying that if I think it was for me then that is enough. I just did not want to think I was adapting it to me. I know everyone wants a reading, but to be honest, this was not the reading I was really wanting. So, that gives me some comfort that possibly I am NOT trying or just wanting to make this true for me. Like I said, this is my 1st live experience with JE. I had never imagined that out of that many people I would be read. I also kept feeling so bad for the crying woman in front of us, that so wanted it to be for her (even though she never stood up, & knew it wasn't.).
02-24-2003, 11:29 AM
It certainly sounds as if, to me, that reading was for you! It also sounds perfectly understandable that you would question yourself at the time with so many others standing up to say it was for them. Even though you didn't get to go on with JE, it does sound as though you got quite a few validations of your loved ones being there for you.
Why don't you write JE a letter and let him know. I'm sure he'd like a better validation of what he was getting, too! You might even get an answer from him...or your letter published in "Bridges." More importantly, you might feel better if you just write down how the reading "fit" for you and let JE know.
Sounds as if it was all very exciting! Glad you were able to be there...
02-24-2003, 11:43 AM
Historia - I can see why you felt it could be your reading. I have had a "me too" just watching TV. It sounds like you had just as many "hits" at the others.
Deb - I know what you mean about the woman with the drowning reading. John said that people get so focused about what they want to hear that they miss what is being said.
Isn't it interesting that there were so many murder victim families sitting in the same area?
02-24-2003, 01:33 PM
Historia: I'm glad you're seeing the reading as a positive thing. Even if it wasn't who you wanted to hear from. (that seems like good confirmation right there)
If you look at the facts, only YOU know whether it's YOURS.
And if you 'feel' it was, then you GO GIRL! :D
Twinky: I know what you mean about a 'me too.'
Although, somewhere in the story, I can usually count ME out.
The first time I went to the Dallas seminar, JE lined up the 2nd seats of several aisles and said that SOMEONE had gotten lost in a funeral home. (I just love this story) There were several of us (in the second seats) who raised their hands.
He couldn't believe THAT many people could have been lost in a funeral home. He expected one person to raise their hand. We were all blown away that we were all sitting in the second seats. He had to continue before narrowing it down.
And the only thing that narrowed it was the funeral home had eventually burned down. The one I got lost in is still standing.
It belonged to the woman two rows in front of me.
Isn't that amazing? What are the odds of something like THAT happening to a child, and we all show up in the same building, sitting behind each other?
If you remember, he mentioned that one time he was in Dallas, and all the people who had murdered loved ones were all sitting in one small area. He brings that story up everytime he comes here. It's amazing.
Mom and I were talking about the seminar the next day, and we both laughed about something that we KNOW wasn't for US, but if it had been a reading, (instead of his stage patter) it would have been.
My dad was a professional and avid fisherman. The day before the seminar, mom was talking about bringing a red sweater that my dad owned. He loved that red sweater. I had forgotten all about it. Several days ago, I told dad that if he was going to come through, that I would hope he'd bring up being the fisherman. (that would have been WAY too easy, I know) and mom had told him to talk about the red sweater.
ANYWAYS, he started talking about examples on stage, and kept bringing up the fisherman and the red sweater. ALL EVENING.
I didn't think anything about it then, but the next day over coffee, mom said something about the red sweater, and I said something about the fisherman.
No, I don't think it has anything to do with US, although I wish it had. But I realize they were just examples. (but I can still wish)
So, I can well understand how a 'me too' can occur. Especially if someone wants it bad enough. However, the drowning story was way beyond trying to find a way to make it fit!
And John had the patience of a saint. More so than usual.
I think it was the rest of us who wanted to throw the woman out.
02-24-2003, 02:08 PM
Thanks to Rudy's Mom & Twinky for their comments. I just might take Rudy"s Mom's advice and write JE a bit later. I am okay with the message, but can just kick myself for not owning it there. However, if it was meant to happen it would have happened.
02-24-2003, 08:32 PM
Sounds like a big "hello" from your dad , if you ask me. I think that I have heard him tell the red sweather story before, but I think that maybe he was guided to tell it on our nite because you were there.
When he started talking about someone having to give up a dog and pointed to my section. I was afraid that it was us. I have felt so bad about having to give up my son's dog before we moved to NM. We put it up for adoption after trying for months to find a home for her. We miss the dog very much and when we moved back we rescued at border collie from the pound. We were asured that they would find her a home but I will always wonder.
I think that I heard John explain on one of the shows that if you have a "me too" whether watching on TV, in the studio or at a seminar. There is a reason for you being there to hear it. Even if it wasn't for you directly.
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