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  • #114107
    maria V
    Participant

    @Libra-leo Damon 129180 wrote:

    I have noticed in my life i have attracted alot of Caner Sun sign females and was just wondering Maria is it common when a persons rising sign is in a certain sign to have a magnetic attractiveness to a person who has that sign as their Sun sign??

    Hi Damon :wave:

    The rising sign is how people see you. If you are attracting alot of people whose basic energy (Sun) is conjunct your rising sign (how you come across) it literally means that they see themselves in you. They immediately identify and relate to your projections of self and feel like you connect.

    Your 4th house emphasis (the natural Cancer house) also amplifies this.

    Every relationship is different however and not every relationship will have an Ascendant/Sun connection. It doesn’t mean anything positive or negative either way – it’s just part of your relationship dynamic.

    Hope this helps.

    #114266
    maria V
    Participant

    Great job!:dance: You balanced your elements perfectly.

    Thanks for providing such wonderful insight into your Scorpio nature. Scorpio – especially rising – can be the most secretive and guarded of all and I know how difficult personal sharing can be for you.

    I appreciate you sharing with us.:hearts:

    #114267
    maria V
    Participant

    Hi Kusem:wave: Your balance of elements and modes is incorrect. Here is what you have:

    Venus, Ascendant, Moon, Mercury, South Node and Jupter in Scorpio – fixed water

    Uranus in Gemini – Mutable air

    Mars, Pluto and Saturn in Leo – fixed fire

    Neptune and Sun in Libra – Cardinal Airl

    So you have this balance:

    Fixed – 9
    Cardinal – 2
    Mutable – 1

    Fire- 3
    Earth – 0 (I don’t usethe North Node in my count of elements and modes)
    Air- 3
    Water-6

    You are a LIbra Sun Kusem – this is your solar energy. However, you are so much more than your Sun sign. Your chart signature is undeniably Scorpio (Fixed water is strongest in your balance and the fixed water sign is Scorpio) and you do have the Moon and Ascendant or rising sign in Scorpio.

    You have an extreme amount of fixed energy Kusem and no earth. I encourage you to consider how this lack of one element and complete overabundance of one mode may affect your life and personality.

    You say you are passive, unassuming and quiet. Scorpio energy is very much akin to a volcano that has not erupted. There is so much going on underneath the surface but your self protective nature prevents you from letting it out until you’ve reached your limit. And yet you are extremely sensitive with all this water in your chart.

    We are all a bundle of contradictions – a complex web of personality. Learning more about your birth chart will help clarify the contradictions you are seeing.

    #114343
    kkkk
    Participant

    Maria:

    Thank you for your response and feedback.

    I have given a lot of thought about what you said about how the overabundance of fixed energy and a lack of earth element has affected my life.

    I have come to the conclusion that it is the reason why I am not ‘down to earth’, tend to fall to pieces under stress and dislike routine repetitive work. I am also impulsive and seem to depend on gut instincts to make a lot of decisions and then regret that I did not think things through. It also explains why I was attracted to my husband – he was a Virgo – mutable earth – conservative, analytical, detail oriented and practical.

    Thanks also for answering my question on whether I am a Scorpio or Libra.

    #114346
    kps64
    Participant

    I cheated with astro. com….I really like this site!!

    Cardinal – 0
    Fixed – 3
    Mutable – 9

    Hmmm.. so I am lacking. Thsi maybe due to the fact that I am unsure of the actual time of birth. At least I hope. I would hate to think I wasn’t a whole person.

    Of course, that could explain why I am always searching for something. As soon as I acheive a goal, I go on to look for something else, but try to keep an iron in the fire.

    I have a tendency to waiver on my thinking. I am ALWAYS able to see the various sides of a story.

    Fire – 2
    Air – 2
    Earth – 4
    Water – 5

    According to our chat on Tuesday, may water and few fire means I feel more deeply than others know. THIS IS VERY TRUE. I have always been told I was too sensitve, but as I get to know myself, I realize I an not only very sensitive, but I seem to take on others feelings. Too much. I can usually tell how someone is feeling, when they themselves don’t know.

    I will not correct someone even when their is no doubt they are in the wrong, as so not to embarass them, daily.

    Now I do find myself being passionate about feelings and beliefs, emotional, and enthusiastic as well, despite a small number of planets in fire. I believe this is made up by the fact that my sun is in this area.

    I am very in tune with my own feelings when I admit them.

    I find myself to be the keeper of memories. As the oldest, I usually am instrumental in gathering all my siblings and their children for a family photo even though we are all over the US.

    I ruminate on things constantly, nothing that a little medication won’t help! Honestly, when my girls were younger I would stay up at nite worrying what they would do if the end of the world came. Look, I know that was over doing it, but it goes with my intense earthiness due to my moon.

    AS far as my ascending being in Pisces, not really sure what ot make about it.

    #114348
    shes_a_rainbow
    Participant

    Sun – Aquarius, fixed, air
    Moon – Pisces, mutable, water
    Mercury – Aquarius, fixed, air
    Venus – Sag, mutable, fire
    Mars – Aries, cardinal, fire
    Jupiter – Pisces, mutable, water
    Saturn – Sag, mutable, fire
    Uranus – sag
    Neptune – Capricorn, cardinal, earth
    Pluto – Scorpio, fixed, water
    Ascendant – Gemini, Cardinal, air
    S. Node – Libra, cardinal, air

    Modes
    Cardinal – 4
    Fixed – 3
    Mutable – 5

    Elements
    Air – 4
    Fire – 4
    Water – 3
    Earth – 1

    So my chart signature would be either mutable/air=Gemini or mutable/fire=Sagittarius? Since they are tied would it be a balance of the two?

    I am lacking in the earth element… which is why i am definitely an “air head”! There is no doubt that I live in my head; I’ve even had people call me a “space cadet” cause I am so out of it sometimes! My modes are pretty well balanced, even though fixed is the lowest, my being an Aquarius Sun brings it out even more.

    I have an abundance of cardinal, mutable, air and fire. This means that I like to get things started, but can also adapt to my current situation. Because I have so much air, I have a strong intellect and try to rationalize everything, including emotions. THe fire in my chart gives me passion and drive to accept challenges and accomplish the things I need to get done.

    Part 2

    I am a Gemini Rising. I hate being bored and must always have my mind occupied with something… and that something has to contribute to my knowledge/intellect in some way or it is just a waste of time. I love learning new things. I have a short attention span at times and jump from subject to subject because I’m so eager to learn them all, don’t know where to start and have trouble staying focused! And, finally, it’s all about communication. While sometimes I feel like I don’t communicate as well as I wish I could, the INTENTION is there, and becoming a better communicator is certainly a goal and ongoing process for me.

    Sorry this is so late! I promise I will keep on top of things for the remainder of class! :]

    #114412
    maria V
    Participant

    @kps64 129349 wrote:

    I cheated with astro. com….I really like this site!!

    Cardinal – 0
    Fixed – 3
    Mutable – 9

    Hmmm.. so I am lacking. Thsi maybe due to the fact that I am unsure of the actual time of birth. At least I hope. I would hate to think I wasn’t a whole person.

    Astro.com is a site you will visit alot and I’m glad you found it already Kris! Ok, no Cardinal for you. Unless you are more than an hour off for your birthtime this would not change. Do you feel as if you can never take the initiative? Do you feel like you lack a certain amount of independence or ability to go after what you want? Are you extremely patient? Your answer to these questions will help us as we try to ascertain your birth time. It is possible you do not have Pisces rising after all, but perhaps Aries rising. Your chart will be a work in progress when it comes to the Ascendant.

    Of course, that could explain why I am always searching for something. As soon as I acheive a goal, I go on to look for something else, but try to keep an iron in the fire.

    I have a tendency to waiver on my thinking. I am ALWAYS able to see the various sides of a story.

    Fire – 2
    Air – 2
    Earth – 4
    Water – 5

    Ok, Astro.com may use a different formula to balance the elements and modes than I do so I would do it again by hand so you see how my count is different from theirs. You actually have 3 fire and 1 air because I use the South Node and not the North Node. This is because not everyone is actively using their North Node but I know you are using your South. Also, your total count is 13 so I don’t know what other point in the chart they are using to give you 5 water but in my count you have 4 water. Remember once again that this could change if your rising sign proves to be Aries instead of Pisces down the road.

    According to our chat on Tuesday, may water and few fire means I feel more deeply than others know. THIS IS VERY TRUE. I have always been told I was too sensitve, but as I get to know myself, I realize I an not only very sensitive, but I seem to take on others feelings. Too much. I can usually tell how someone is feeling, when they themselves don’t know. Ahhhh this statement is actually quite descriptive of your Pisces rising. You just pefectly described what it could mean to live with Pisces Rising.:D

    I will not correct someone even when their is no doubt they are in the wrong, as so not to embarass them, daily.

    Now I do find myself being passionate about feelings and beliefs, emotional, and enthusiastic as well, despite a small number of planets in fire. I believe this is made up by the fact that my sun is in this area. I agree, but I also would have used your south node which is fire.

    I am very in tune with my own feelings when I admit them.

    I find myself to be the keeper of memories. As the oldest, I usually am instrumental in gathering all my siblings and their children for a family photo even though we are all over the US.

    I ruminate on things constantly, nothing that a little medication won’t help! Honestly, when my girls were younger I would stay up at nite worrying what they would do if the end of the world came. Look, I know that was over doing it, but it goes with my intense earthiness due to my moon.

    AS far as my ascending being in Pisces, not really sure what ot make about it.

    GREAT Insights Kris!!! Thank you for sharing.:clap:

    #114413
    maria V
    Participant

    @shes_a_rainbow 129351 wrote:

    Sun – Aquarius, fixed, air
    Moon – Pisces, mutable, water
    Mercury – Aquarius, fixed, air
    Venus – Sag, mutable, fire
    Mars – Aries, cardinal, fire
    Jupiter – Pisces, mutable, water
    Saturn – Sag, mutable, fire
    Uranus – sag
    Neptune – Capricorn, cardinal, earth
    Pluto – Scorpio, fixed, water
    Ascendant – Gemini, Cardinal, air This is actually mutable air
    S. Node – Libra, cardinal, air

    Modes
    Cardinal – 4 This would be 3
    Fixed – 3
    Mutable – 5 This would be 6

    Elements
    Air – 4
    Fire – 4
    Water – 3
    Earth – 1

    So my chart signature would be either mutable/air=Gemini or mutable/fire=Sagittarius? Since they are tied would it be a balance of the two? Yes, you can certainly look at it this way. Your personality may resonate strongly with one or both of these signs.

    I am lacking in the earth element… which is why i am definitely an “air head”! There is no doubt that I live in my head; I’ve even had people call me a “space cadet” cause I am so out of it sometimes! My modes are pretty well balanced, even though fixed is the lowest, my being an Aquarius Sun brings it out even more.

    I have an abundance of cardinal, mutable, air and fire. This means that I like to get things started, but can also adapt to my current situation. Because I have so much air, I have a strong intellect and try to rationalize everything, including emotions. THe fire in my chart gives me passion and drive to accept challenges and accomplish the things I need to get done. You actually have an overabundance of mutable with the corrected count. Think about how this may color your reality. I agree with everything else you have said.

    Part 2

    I am a Gemini Rising. I hate being bored and must always have my mind occupied with something… and that something has to contribute to my knowledge/intellect in some way or it is just a waste of time. I love learning new things. I have a short attention span at times and jump from subject to subject because I’m so eager to learn them all, don’t know where to start and have trouble staying focused! And, finally, it’s all about communication. While sometimes I feel like I don’t communicate as well as I wish I could, the INTENTION is there, and becoming a better communicator is certainly a goal and ongoing process for me.

    :]

    You did a wonderful job Laura!:clap: The balance in cardinal and mutable needs to be looked at again but as far as your insights go – phenomenal!!! Thank you:wave:

    #114416
    kps64
    Participant

    I re-read my chart again….it was late. I miss read the chart they had already pain-stakingly did for me. Oops!

    thank you for the feed back!!

    I will not be able to attend class tonight:cuss:, but will devour the transcript ASAP.

    #114420
    shes_a_rainbow
    Participant

    that makes more sense! I didn’t think an abundance of cardinal fit my personality… I’m not the quickest person to take action… but I am really good at adapting and like change!

    I am so excited about this class :]

    #114425
    Pam B
    Keymaster

    Sun Scorpio water fixed
    Moon Capricorn Earth Cardinal
    South Node Aries fire cardinal

    Rising Gemini air mutable
    Saturn Sagittarius fire mutable
    Mercury Sagittarius fire mutable
    Venus Scorpio water fixed
    Jupiter Scorpio water fixed
    Neptune Scorpio water fixed
    Pluto Virgo earth mutable
    Uranus Leo fire fixed
    Mars Taurus earth fixed

    Totals:
    Elements: 4 water, 4 fire, 3 earth,
    1 air
    Qualities: 6 fixed, 4 mutable, 2 cardinal,


    My chart has a clear signature of Scorpio energy, with my sun and 3 other planets in the sign of Scorpio.

    I have an over abundance of water and fire in my chart, which means I am driven by my emotions. As a kid my mother accused me of being “overly-dramatic” (outter) and “too sensitive” (inner) – she was right! I’m short in air, which means I probably don’t think things through, but I act based on my emotions (which is probably why I married Jeff, whom I feel tends to “over think” situations.) This is very true and why I want so much to develop my intuition and psychic ability, because using the thinking process never works as well for me. I easily clue into other people’s emotions and moods, and can read facial expressions very quickly and usually very accurately. “Passion” is a word that I use a lot in my vocabulary. If you don’t have a passion for what you do, who you spend time with, what’s the point? J My sun sign is in water, so that strengthens that in me.

    In my qualities I have an overabundance of fixed, and I’m low on cardinal. This means that I’m more comfortable with the status quo and that I can easily keep the current scenario going and going like the Energizer Bunny ;) It takes me a long time to make a decision, because change is a big deal and I want to make sure I’m making the right choices (probably based on my gut because of all the water in my chart.)

    I’m ok on mutable, and I can adapt to what ever situation I’m in. I’m a chameleon of sorts because I like to fit into the current energy of what’s going on around me.

    Being low on cardinal in my chart might normally mean that I’m not good at taking the lead or initiating new activities. This is offset however, by the fact that my moon and south node are cardinal, so that’s probably where I get any of my leadership skills and urges to initiate new projects and ideas.

    My rising sign is Gemini, which explains why I love to write and talk so much! I seem to move from subject to subject very quickly, because I want to take in as many details about life as a whole as I can. I really am a “jack of all trades, master of few” and in my 30 years of adult “career” I’ve been everything from a school bus driver, to a fork lift driver, to a manager of a 30 people in a computer department.” (There’s that adaptability again.) My lesson is to learn to communicate truthfully, but the rest of my chart shows that I don’t communicate cold hard facts, I like to communicate from the emotional or heart level, and find “emotional truths.”

    #114437
    maria V
    Participant

    You did this perfectly! :clap:

    I can’t recall for sure, but isn’t Jeff a Gemini? You would be attracted to air (not only Sun or Moon but heavy air in total) to compensate for your lack. You borrow their air. Do you find this to be true in your life?

    Awesome job!!!:hearts: Thanks for sharing.

    #114441
    Pam B
    Keymaster

    Whew! *Pam swipes the sweat off her brow*
    I knew I had the descriptions right, I wasn’t sure if I read my chart and all the glyphs right!

    Thanks Teach :hearts:

    Yes, Jeff’s is in Gemini — so is Zach’s!

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