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  • #78425
    Barb Berge
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    How did you feel afterwards? Was there any nervousness the next few days or emotionalism or exhaustion?

    Mine were also strange for my mind. One was of an older man pulling a dingy along in waist high water, and later at home with his child. Then I saw him in the water again and I think he drowned. (I have a fear of water – so this may be what it is from.)

    My second one I felt I was a little girl and I kept seeing this door. In greater and greater detail I zoomed in on the door. Then I pulled back and saw a little girl holding onto the door, peering around it, and she was alone completely. I felt like she was waiting for someone to come back. It felt like everyone was gone and everyone was dying and I was too. I thought we had starved to death or something – I kept thinking everything is gone everywhere. (I have to fight my weight because I’m always hungry it seems – so this may be what this is from.

    These are really neat bits and pieces to see. I am going to have to do it again soon. I seem to have so little time and so little privacy. My dogs bark and disrupt my quiet moments. I think I should rent a motel room sometimes.

    #78427
    Fairiedust
    Participant

    I can’t wait for more information from all of you.
    This is so very interesting.

    That was a good question Barb. How did you feel right after and then a day or two later?

    Are you writing this information down after each experience. The journal is very important, so they say. Even while doing simple meditations.

    FD

    #78430
    retrokitten
    Participant

    I usually feel like I just woke up, kind of out of it and floppy or loose. I don’t know how to describe it, but it usually lasts about a half hour to forty five minutes. Then for the rest of the day I feel really loose. I am usually kind of high strung, but I have noticed on days when I do the regression I am more able to go with the flow of things.

    #78431
    Barb Berge
    Participant

    That is a great way to come out of it. I was okay when I first came out of them (each of them and one I did in person with a local psychic) but a day or two later I noticed I was upset, or depressed or just very emotional. It was like I was reliving feels associated with the man having drowned and the girl have died from starvation. I guess it was a little like grieving as a matter of fact. But it went away after a few days.

    #78434
    retrokitten
    Participant

    Barb, that is great! It probably doesn’t feel great at the time, but I think it is a sign that you are moving past all that stuff that was hanging on from lifetimes ago. I know what you mean about the starving little girl affecting your current weight/eating habits. I have never been very svelte. I think that might be the case with my street kid life, too. I am eating for two lifetimes! :lwink: I know that today after doing my regression (no signifigant visions) I feel this renewed sense of excitement and determination about losing weight. I was losing steadily, but went off the program for one reason or another. Today I took off my headphones and I just had this sense of “I can do this!” Maybe it is helping.

    #78477
    Eric
    Participant

    Wow, I just found the forum today, and I just happened to be finishing this book. It’s fantastic! And I love the way it addresses issues that mediums tend not to focus on, like the impact of past lives, soul ‘groups’ and *examples* of specific life lessons. It’s made me want to try to connect to my own ‘superconscious’ in a big way!

    #78530
    kimk
    Participant

    Wow! This is a great book! I spent yesterday in the hammock reading it and now just ordered Mirrors in Time. I can’t wait to try the CD. I have some issues with weight and money management that I cannot figure out and I am hoping this might help me find the way to become better at managing these two issues.
    Dr. Weiss tells the story in an easily readable and believable way. I am looking forward to requesting his other books from my library. I guess past- life regression will be my summer focus…:cool:

    #79191
    Kasin
    Participant

    All references in this critic are from the paperback edition, Copyright 1988. I wasn’t as impressed as the rest of you with Brian Weiss’s book, Many Lives: Many Masters. Here’s why.

    Catherine’s “regressions” seemed irregular in regards to her knowing what date each life took place. Here’s what I noticed.

    In one recall, she knew exactly when she was “living” even though she could find no written documentation as a resource for this knowledge. I’m refering to the “lifetime” put forth on page 30 where she claimed to be living in 1565 BC. Again on page 39, there is reference to another “life” in 1536 BC. Again she knew the exact date without any written reference at hand.

    Think about this. The cultures living prior to Jesus’s birth did not have any reference to the time mark of “B.C.” Christ wasn’t born as yet. The indication B.C. did not yet exist, so how can Catherine reference her existence with something that does not yet exist if she is using “past life time frames”? Also, how does she know in these two B.C. cases the exact year she’s in without written reference such as a newspaper headings yet in two other regressions, she has NO idea what time she’s in? Example given of her sudden memory lapse is given from page 95 where she supposedly was sitting with her then-time husband near round-columned buildings and olive trees. And again on page 108, she finds herself in a cave where there’s no date markings on the walls and she suddenly again has no idea what year she’s in. Selective memory loss? That’s too fishy for me. One time she nails the date without reference to a “T” but the next time she has absolutely no idea.

    If she was using her “then time” time reference, she would be speaking in “then time” time frames. There certainly wouldn’t be a reference to B.C. On the otherhand, if she is using a “now-time” reference and has perfect clarity of time-telling as she obviously had on a couple occasions, there would be no gaps in her ability to nail the times of her past lives down.

    Here’s another inconsistency I found.

    On one regression, Catherine found herself as a little girl dressed up in frills, ready for a wedding. Weiss asked her to go into the house to see what was in there. Catherine as the little girl was able to do this. She reported on the people inside the room and also stated that they instructed her to go back outside and not get dirty. Yet, later on page 171, Weiss tells her to go ahead in time to one of her deaths. But Catherine objects, saying she’s not very old. Weiss’s comments was that what was happening could not be changed, that the client was not very suggestable and could not get her to change the details of what had happened. Another inconsistency with that prior occurance.

    No, folks, I’m not wowed by this book at all. Weiss appeared to be more attracted to Catherine’s blond locks languishing over the pillow on his psychiatric couch than I am with the content consistency of his book. I wonder if Catherine would have been short, fat and ugly instead of blond, svelt, and good looking, would the book have even been written at all. Harsh commentary, but I ‘d love rebuttal if you see the above facts in a different light.

    Knowledge and love. Kasin.

    #79234
    retrokitten
    Participant

    Sorry, I can’t agree. The only reference to Catherines looks that I remember is in the start of the book where he is also describing the condition that she was in physically and mentally when she came to his office. If I recall correctly she was plagued by nightmares and even though she had no reason to feel unsafe in her own home she was terrified to sleep in her bedroom and could only sleep on the floor of her walk-in closet. Dr. Weiss’s point was that outwardly this woman looked like she had everything, but inwardly was total chaos.

    To say that a doctor would give his attractive patients better care or more specialized attention then his not attractive patients is just absurd. She was in Dr. Weiss’s care for over a year before the past life memories started to surface.

    Also, the most important messages were between lives, like the revelation about his son who had crossed some years before. Even Dr. Weiss himself (I don’t remember if it is in ML,MA or Messages From the Masters) says that it does not matter if the memories are real or imagined or if they can be validated or not, it is the relief of the patients symptoms that is the ultimate goal of past life regression. Catherines symptoms were relieved this way when conventional therapy could not give her any break or relief.

    Do you honestly believe that if, in your words, Catherine had been short, fat, and ugly that he would not have treated her just like any other patient? Just given her a pill or labled her a lost cause instead of helping her as he is sworn to do? That is horribly insulting to the doctor.

    Plus, we don’t know Catherine’s real name or really what she looked like. What is valued as attractive to one person is ugly to the next. What Dr. Weiss thinks of as attractive might be paper bag ugly to the rest of the western world. Just because someone is tall and blonde does not make them instantly attractive. Not to mention, that I am sure I don’t have to tell anyone on this message board, outward looks are not the only things that make someone beautiful.

    #79235
    retrokitten
    Participant

    I just wanted to add that it’s not a crime to like the same book that others liked. Everyone is on thier own spiritual path and I have had books highly recommended to me and thought that anyone who could believe in the subject matter must be on crack. We are all learning about different metaphysical topics and some of those topics speak to us or draw us in and some repel us. It just depends on the person and what thier path is like.

    #79250
    Fairiedust
    Participant

    Hi,

    I would like to say, Dr. Weiss did write more than one book. Perhaps, it would help to dig into some of the others. You might find a few explanations to your examples.

    In his other books he does take time and care to describe people and situations. I did not read anything into his description of Catherine or any of the other people. Catherine was his ephiphany to a whole new world for himself. He was happy when she no longer needed past life regression to solve her problems.

    It’s okay with me if you did not like the book. Each to their own.

    For me, his book opened a whole new hallway filled with interesting doors. And as each door opens, I grow.

    FD

    #79256
    Rainay
    Participant

    Kasin,
    Dr Weiss has a website that has a “People often ask” section. Here is an answer to one of the questions you brought up about dates referring to B.C.

    “In Many Lives, Many Masters Catherine remembered a lifetime
    in 1863 B.C. How could she know that it was B.C.
    when B.C. was not yet a concept ?

    In Through Time Into Healing I explain the process of hypnotism in more detail. In answer to the question as to how Catherine, as “Aronda” in a previous lifetime, could give a date of 1863 B.C., I refer you to pages 25-27. In hypnosis, the person is the observer as well as the person being observed. “Your conscious mind is always aware of what you are experiencing while you are hypnotized. Despite the deep subconscious contact, your mind can comment, criticize, and censor. . . Some people in hypnosis watch the past as if they are observing a movie. . . In hypnosis, your mind is always aware and observing. This is why people who may be deeply hypnotized and actively involved in a childhood or past life sequence of memories are able to answer the therapist’s questions, speak their current life language, know the geographical places they are seeing, and even know the year, which usually flashes before their inner eyes or just appears in their minds. The hypnotized mind, always retaining an awareness and knowledge of the present, puts the childhood or past life memories into context. If the year 1900 flashes, and you find yourself building a pyramid in ancient Egypt, you know that the year is B.C., even if you don’t see those actual letters.”

    Here is the website address:
    http://www.brianweiss.com/

    As far as the attraction issue, I don’t think attraction was an issue. After reading three of his books, I feel like this whole issue touched him deeply………to his soul. IF you read any other books by him you can almost read and contemplate the transformation that so profoundly changed his life. It’s almost like seeing his enlightenment unfold before your eyes. In other books, he touches on many issues including his own regressions and experiences……….it is way more than an attraction to a patient.

    I would like to hear your opinion after reading other books by Dr Weiss since you brought the attraction issue up.

    BTW, my personal favorite book was “Messages from the Masters.”

    #79283
    Kasin
    Participant

    Thank you for all your responses. I do love a meated bone to chew on once in a while. All milk and fine sugar does not build true muscle.

    Retrokitten, you said, ” The only reference to Catherines looks that I remember is in the start of the book where he is also describing the condition that she was in physically and mentally when she came to his office.”

    There was more. On page 15 same edition, “Catherine is an extraordinarily attractive woman, with medium-length blond hair and hazel eyes . . . she earned extra money modeling swimwear.” Prior to that he notes that she wore a red dress to her first appointment. The importance? It fails me except for some connotations which I can not venture to guess as far as the doctor is concerned. And later he bookended his review with this reference on page 167, “As usual, she sank quickly into a deep trance in my dimly lit office, her blond hair spilling over in rivulets on the familiar beige pillow.”

    And you said, ” To say that a doctor would give his attractive patients better care or more specialized attention then his not attractive patients is just absurd.”

    I agree. And that’s not what I said.

    “Also, the most important messages were between lives, like the revelation about his son who had crossed some years before. “

    Good point. One of the few saving graces in this book.

    “Even Dr. Weiss himself (I don’t remember if it is in ML,MA or Messages From the Masters) says that it does not matter if the memories are real or imagined or if they can be validated or not, it is the relief of the patients symptoms that is the ultimate goal of past life regression.”

    I wonder how that relief is determined, what “final” resolve will it find itself if it is based on falsehood and
    erroneous imaginings. All truth comes to light eventually. What if twenty years down the road, the client discovers that everything she has based her new belief system on, her new life was merely dreams and fantasies? If the Doctor said this, I disagree.

    ” Do you honestly believe that if, in your words, Catherine had been short, fat, and ugly that he would not have treated her just like any other patient? Just given her a pill or labled her a lost cause instead of helping her as he is sworn to do? That is horribly insulting to the doctor. “

    I agree. And that’s not what I said. To clarify, I said I wondered if the book would have even been written.

    “I just wanted to add that it’s not a crime to like the same book that others liked. “

    I agree. But do you consider it a crime to dislike a book everyone else likes?

    Fairiedust,

    ” I would like to say, Dr. Weiss did write more than one book. Perhaps, it would help to dig into some of the others. You might find a few explanations to your examples.”

    An excellent and constructive suggestion.

    “Catherine was his ephiphany to a whole new world for himself. He was happy when she no longer needed past life regression to solve her problems.”

    Aren’t they wonderful? Epiphanies occur rarely in the human service field. In the 10 years I worked in that field, I had one true awakening and it was delightful.

    “It’s okay with me if you did not like the book. Each to their own. “

    Thank you for giving me space in your reality to have contrary opinions. I graciously return the respect.

    Rainay,

    “This is why people who may be deeply hypnotized and actively involved in a childhood or past life sequence of memories are able to answer the therapist’s questions, speak their current life language, know the geographical places they are seeing, and even know the year, which usually flashes before their inner eyes or just appears in their minds.”

    Thank you, Rainay. This is meat on the bone as far as the time question goes. Apparently then, some facts are obvious while others are not while under hypnosis. We can not expect complete consistency.

    ” As far as the attraction issue, I don’t think attraction was an issue. After reading three of his books, I feel like this whole issue touched him deeply………to his soul. “

    I will read his books as time goes by and I’ll see if I agree. You seem to have an even, logical as well as compassionate mind. I have a feeling I will tend to agree with you once the books are finished. (I’ve made a note about Messages From the Masters.)

    #79285
    Rainay
    Participant

    I hope you enjoy his books Kasin. Just wanted to add one more thing. When Dr Weiss’ son and father came through during Catherine’s hypnosis, I don’t think it had anything to do with Catherine. I think at this point (his son and father coming through) is what made him a believer. If I were lucky enough to hear such messages (which were fantastic validations!!), I would only be very thankful. I do not see the attraction perspective. In my viewpoint, it was never about that, but that’s just me and my opinion.

    #79287
    Rainay
    Participant

    We can not expect complete consistency.

    Also would like to add, consistency and the never knowing for sure is what holds me back from attempting or wanting to know my past lives. I have to admit that I am curious, but nothing I’m in a hurry to have done.

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