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  • #75665
    Galestorm
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    I looked at the library, and they don’t have his books here yet, Yes, I live in a somewhat small town. That is so exciting that you got read! You are one lucky person! You are traveling on the right path, that most people are lost on. I am searching more and more on this subject, and it is like a differnent language to me. I am simple (but not stupid) in my words, alot to learn, don’t know if I have the strength to keep studing. I guess I will , if it is important to me, huh. Take care Kimk.

    #75666
    sgrenard
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    I am sorry for your losses. I have been there as well, having more people on the other side than here, including my father above me and my son below me which makes me feel pretty rotten a lot of the time. What John and other *genuine* psychic mediums do is to help people recognize that death is not an end but a beginning, that our loved ones are with us, he proves it, and I have seen very few people such as yourself feel that the kind of healing and love he gives to people is taking advantage of them. Most of the maysayers are closed minded skeptics or pseudoskeptics who are really cynics. JE doesnt have one seriously aggrieved unhappy sitter on the record at all. Makes you wonder eh? There are plenty of mediums who work for free, some who eke out a meager income charging low fees and others who decided they wanted to be super-stars and reach as many people as possible and get paid for doing it. Its not unlike any field, whether its an actor in the community theatre vrs a bigname Hollywood legend, a guy playing piano in a local bistro versus a pop star, or the baseball player happy to coach little league and stay at home with a family instead of opting for a career in the big leagues. Mediumship is no different from anything else on that score. Insofar as people making a buck off your losses, think of all those who line up to assauge your grief when the time comes. I am sure you have plenty of experience with cemetaries, undertakers, limo services, clergymen, florists, mounment makers. etc. Its a major industry. People spend $5000 and a lot more to bury their loved ones but crab about paying anywhere from nothing to a few hundred dollars to actually find out they are not really dead. There is something wrong with this picture Gale and I think you know what I mean.

    John’s program is indeed edited for time and for the value of the segments of the readings that best portray his work. You can see him in person at a live seminar to judge his unedited work. Many thousands have. Or someday you might be able to score tickets to a live taping (they’re free and a seminar usually costs around $45.00) and compare for yourself.

    And yes, it is not just about JE but also the process which means you don’t have to be convinced by John’s work alone. While I agree there are plenty of frauds, there are also plenty of genuine psychic mediums whom you could consult and judge for yourself.

    PS: This show is taped live. Four or five hours worth to produce a single half hour segment. They DO NOT do take after take on talk shows or on Crossing Over. They just keep going and the show is put together by editors afterwards as indicated above: edited for time, not content and presumably to best portray his work. Example: John may stand and stare for 5 minutes but such lapses are eliminated by the editor.

    #75657
    Galestorm
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    thank you for your response. I am sorry for your losses as well. I don’t have anything against John edwards, and his gift. When I say Hollywood, I don’t mean geographic. but, as in television. Doesn’t matter where it is filmed, the industry is what doesn’t mix with John and his talent. If I was John and got a deal with television, I would take it too. But it is early, and now he isn’t the only one running the show. I am sure that doesn’t sit too well with the other side.

    John was supposed to come to Kansas, but 9-11 cancelled that, and I don’t see a reschedule. We will see.

    #75658
    sgrenard
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    I believe he will be in Witchita on March 21st at the Cotillion and last I heard there were still tickets. Check it out.

    #75659
    Galestorm
    Participant

    Are you kidding? Really, where do I find this, and tickets.

    #75660
    Galestorm
    Participant

    Sold out, what would you expect after a cancelation like 9-11. For a few minutes I thougth I was going to have a good day.

    #75736
    Pam B
    Keymaster

    Galestorm, perhaps most of the TV industry deserves your negative opinion, I’ll give you that, but isn’t it possible for someone to come along and raise the bar?

    Isn’t it possible for someone like John, who is now executive producer of the show and in control of the process and content, to produce a show with integrity?

    If John has a healing message, why not use a tool that delivers that hope and comfort to millions? Or should we all, including John, just throw up our hands and say “TV is crap, it will always be crap, we’ll never be able to change that, so let’s forget about putting this miracle on the airwaves” ?

    #75850
    NEOPHYTE
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    Originally posted by Galestorm
    :cool:
    Mr. Edwards show is getting bigger ratings, thats good, more money, the market is big, you are going to get the hollywood people smiling, and planning.

    Hi, Galestorm, I loved the Matrix also! Great movie! Just wanted to say that I’m very sorry that you have lost so many family members. As far as your concern about “the Hollywood people”, I think perhaps that you are worrying too much about something you need not worry about at all.

    You say that you watch the show on a regular basis, and so you should be extremely pleased with the manner in which it is presented. Unless and until you see evidence of poor taste or blatant disregard for the way the people being read are treated, I think you should just relax, stop worrying about who might be making money off the show, and concentrate on the very positive and beautiful message that JE relays to us on “Crossing Over”.

    Did you say that the Wichita seminar is sold out? I wonder why it doesn’t say that on the telecharge website? They usually put a “sold out” banner next to the event. In any case, Galestorm, check this URL from time to time to see if they add any seminars close enough to where you live for you to attend.

    https://www.telecharge.com/eventlist.pl?EVENT_LOCATION=SEARCH&NAME_FILTER=John

    Good luck to you!……..neo

    P.S. Are you too young to understand a “My Little Margie” reference? :)

    #72169
    Galestorm
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    Originally posted by Pam

    If John has a healing message, why not use a tool that delivers that hope and comfort to millions? Or should we all, including John, just throw up our hands and say “TV is crap, it will always be crap, we’ll never be able to change that, so let’s forget about putting this miracle on the airwaves” ?

    John has raised eyebrows and has interested me in finding out more about what he does. I don’t mean to undermine anyone trying to get the message across, just trying to come to understanding in my own mind on how on tv. Its like it is too good to be true theory of thoughts. You know how tv works, you have to have substance, and if John has cranky spirits all day and they won’t deliver, then they have to edit, splice, make a good show, the advertisers are boss. Well, if the spirits want too, they will make it a hit show, and after 10 years, I will still be here. (Or a guest on the show, hope not).:) Thanks Pam for the relpy, and understanding!

    #72147
    Galestorm
    Participant

    Originally posted by NEOPHYTE

    Hi, Galestorm, I loved the Matrix also! Great movie! Just wanted to say that I’m very sorry that you have lost so many family members. As far as your concern about “the Hollywood people”, I think perhaps that you are worrying too much about something you need not worry about at all.



    Thank you.


    You say that you watch the show on a regular basis, and so you should be extremely pleased with the manner in which it is presented. Unless and until you see evidence of poor taste or blatant disregard for the way the people being read are treated, I think you should just relax, stop worrying about who might be making money off the show, and concentrate on the very positive and beautiful message that JE relays to us on “Crossing Over”.


    I was always taught, not to believe what you see on tv, because of the comercializm and make-believe. And this subject isn’t morally something to make-believe about. I believe John has a gift, confirmed by thousands believers, but it doesn’t iemune him from people taking advantage of this for profit. (forgive my spelling, please) It is not that I am worried about it, it is just something to bring up on the specptic board.(And probably under the wrong heading, sorry)



    Did you say that the Wichita seminar is sold out? I wonder why it doesn’t say that on the telecharge website? They usually put a “sold out” banner next to the event. In any case, Galestorm, check this URL from time to time to see if they add any seminars close enough to where you live for you to attend.

    https://www.telecharge.com/eventlist.pl?EVENT_LOCATION=SEARCH&NAME_FILTER=John

    Good luck to you!……..neo


    Thank you! I tried to order tickets from your link, but they still have it as the Sept time slot, and it is closed. The John Site said it was sold out, but I called the number and they confirmed it. I will just keep looking.
    Ohhhh, I don’t remember “My Little Margie” but I know that Gale Storm was in it. My first real name is Gale, and people always asked if I was named after Gale Storm, It wasn’t, but it sticked with me.


    P.S. Are you too young to understand a “My Little Margie” reference? :)

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