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last updated by  legna 11 years, 4 months ago
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  • #72495
    Irishrose
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    Algelina – you made me laugh out loud. I would never go to a seminar by myself. I would probably pass out colder than a mackrel if he made eye contact. I know in Minneapolis I wanted to be read so badly that my concentration was on my brother and Dad. I was watching JE coming in my direction but not looking up at anyone. He said he knew where he was going and walked past us to a lady that was leaning up against the wall – she had just come from the bathroom (whew!! that was close). She had been sitting in the row behind us. His first reading was like pulling teeth – no validation at all. Finally he asked if anyone knew the lady’s family and got a couple of validations. He was very kind to her. I think he was afraid that he had frightened her because he told her to calm down a little bit. I guess, over all, it depends upon the reaction JE gets from the individual if he is harder on them or not.

    #72408
    blugrrl
    Participant

    I’ve had him point right at where I was sitting before and say “I’m in this area”…he even walked completley down the aisle and was right in front of us… and there were only two other people sitting in the box section I was in……it’s very NERVING…I suppose because I didn’t know what it was they were saying ..and the other gal (whom I did not know)was trying to make it fit..what I call feeding the psychic….I’ve had people tell me I’m “hard to read” well, that’s because I take in what I’m being given and I don’t dish out stuff that can be turned into a quick and easy cold reading …I suppose I’ve seen to many charlatans in my short time on this planet…

    ended up not being us and he kinda moved over to another section…that’s why I wonder just what happens with all the UNVALIDATED information…what if it really was for someone else???there are so many people at these seminars…

    I suppose I like being a “skeptical” believer…not quite sure what an actual factual reading would do to me…just the possibilty of being “watched over” has already changed the kind of person I am and the way I treat people…

    #72304
    MistyRose49
    Participant

    IMHO, I think the people who are being read are being to sensitive if, at the end of the reading, he does finally helps the person remember what the otherside is trying to get through.What they don’t realize is he can’t go any further until the spirit gets John to get the point across. John’s getting frustrated with the spirit and the person, equally. He’s doing what he’s out there to do, and sometimes it means he has to be persistent.

    Well, that’s all I have to say about that. :daisy:

    #72287
    Celestial
    Participant

    IMHO… and sometimes my opinions really are humble… I think it comes down to whether or not his style of delivery interferes with what it is he’s trying to do. And since none of us is John, we can’t know for sure what his objectives are beyond what he says they are… which is to speak for those on the Other Side and, in so doing, educate people about the nature of life and death… (if I’m understanding him correctly).

    That having been said, I think in general he meets his objectives, but sometimes his aggressiveness can prevent people from speaking up when a message may be for them. Also, some people, when yelled at, tend to build up their defensive walls instead of let them be broken down… so he may sometimes make a defensive person even more so by doing that.

    In general I think he comes across like “that aggressive psychic guy” instead of “that guy with all the great information about the nature of life and death…”

    But that could be my perception and, of course, my humble opinion. :)

    #72270
    blugrrl
    Participant

    VERY well put Celestial…..

    and what is IMHO…..sorry (I’d be back in r rated mouth mode if I sounded out what I thought that stood for….then Pam will have to yell at me again :-)

    this is such an awesome board to hang out on….just so you all know that…everyone agrees to disagree no one gives anyone a hard time …you are allowed to say what you feel be it positive or negative in reference to the topic at hand…very refreshing

    #72271
    Celestial
    Participant

    blugrrl:

    IMHO = In my humble opinion. One of the few things internet-related that I actually know!!

    ;)

    #72272
    blugrrl
    Participant

    that is SOOOO not the first thing that popped in my mind….cute…I’m computer savvy…for the most aprt …but I don’t chat well…and all these abbreviations are greek to me …I think the first one I learned was lol….

    laughs out loud….

    :D

    #72267
    Jude
    Participant

    A little over a year ago, I attended a seminar where a young couple was on the receiving end of JE’s frustration. I must say that while John was persistent, he wasn’t really rude — he just wouldn’t give up. This particular reading lasted a good 30 minutes, because this couple could not validate the first bits of information that John knew was for them.

    After almost 30 minutes of shrugging shoulders, shaking heads, and faraway looks, the other attendees were definitely becoming restless, but JE could not and would not give up. There were murmurs in the crowd, “this guy is definitely ‘on something.’ ” The relative coming through kept referencing the man in uniform, the boots, some sort of medal, and a flag. They just didn’t “get it.”

    Suddenly, it occurred to the young woman who said, “Wait — my husband is a fireman!” Now, she was referring to the young man who had been standing beside her, shrugging his shoulders and not understanding the “man in uniform” for over 25 minutes. With that, the blockage was gone, and the information began to flow.

    It was the 4 year-old son of the couple who was trying to come through, acknowledging his dad, the fireman. He was also acknowledging his dad’s commendation medal and flag that had been buried with him, along with a photo of him wearing his dad’s boots.

    The audience was stunned that it took them so long to “get it.” Thank heavens for John’s persistence and what some people feel is an “in your face” attitude at times!

    I got to thinking that if I had just recently lost my 4 year-old son, I can promise you, I’d be on medication. I’ve wondered since then just how often something like that happens, and I’ll bet it’s a lot. There are many things we have to consider about the sitter sometimes, and I believe that John knows that.

    If the crowd had gotten their way, John would have given up and moved on. If he had not continued to keep after this couple, they would have missed out on what was probably the most extraordinary experience of their lives. Hopefully, they have received some peace, and eventually, some closure.

    Sometimes JE has to do whatever it takes to break through those barriers, and we have to trust him to do what’s necessary under the circumstances.

    #72404
    blugrrl
    Participant

    you know what???? that seems to be the number one thing I have noticed as far as blockage goes…..

    maybe if John, in his explanations, in the intros, also included the fact that relatives may in fact be making reference to those living….it would help his job….because I noticed a big difference from one seminar to the next, the fact that, he made sure to tell everyone…..” if I’m in this area …..I’m in this area… not across the room or in the back…”but I think people are scanning their memory banks trying to think of people on the otherside and not people who are here and living being made reference to …like the gal in Miami…who realized her own name John was making reference to…

    and on a side note…. I like your name …JUDE
    hey Jude, dont make it bad, take a sad song and make it better remember to let her into your heart ,then you can start to make it better…..sorry big beatle fan

    #72237
    Celestial
    Participant

    TX JUDE said:

    The audience was stunned that it took them so long to “get it.” Thank heavens for John’s persistence and what some people feel is an “in your face” attitude at times!

    Well, this is my experience… sitting at a seminar with JE not 8 feet away, badgering a woman in my row about her younger female… all the information fit for me, including the younger female… but he was certain he was with her, and she was trying hard to acknowledge. He ended up bringing through a lot of other people for her, but then he left without having had the younger female acknowledged. When he finished, I was like, “Why are you walking away? She didn’t acknowledge the younger female!”

    I went home thinking, well, he knows what he’s doing. But of course, every time I watch the show now, there’s something exactly like that, where he thinks he’s with some particular person, but he’s really not. I’ve heard him say stuff like, “Thank you for speaking up.” And I’m thinking, well, if you hadn’t been so angry, I would have spoken up, too…

    But I do believe that everything happens for a reason. I believe that if I had been “meant” to be read, he would have come to me… and if I was meant to be read by anyone other than an aggressive medium, I wouldn’t have been led to John Edward. Also… truth be told, I wouldn’t have wanted a reading in that time and place anyway…

    So, I don’t know, but I do believe JE is human, which means he is both vulnerable to frustration and wrong at times…

    #72223
    Irishrose
    Participant

    Interesting point Celestial. I heard him say on a show just recently that he was badgering a poor lady for no reason….goes to show you. Maybe it would have been o.k. to speak up – but then….maybe not. Each to their own feelings.

    I, personally, would do just about anything to keep the frustration level down – I don’t handle conflict well at all….

    Irishrose

    #72221
    Margaret
    Participant

    I think it’s perfectly fine the way John is persistant until whomever he is reading catches on. It’s part of his job as a medium. His mild “in your face” attitude is part of his personality (I would suppose). The people in the audience are there to be read. Why go to a travel agent if you aren’t planning a trip?! How upset would you be if you were the travel agent and the person sitting across from you asking for travel information for all of the UK kept secretly wishing for travel information for just Liverpool. Then they refuse to listen to any information you were giving them until they hear exactly what they were wishing to hear about Liverpool?!

    #72215
    blugrrl
    Participant

    so, Celestial, did you not go home feeling like all that information was in some way relevant to you???…and you just got it “through” this other gals reading…without the stress of being put “on the spot”….

    my thought on this would be that he says it’s energy and he says “they are pulling their energy back” well, what if ….and now this is a big what if …what if as soon as you acknowledged in your own mind …through thought, that this younger female was connected to you….she was able to pull her energy back from him because in a ’round about way ….she was acknowledged…

    ….have I fallen to far off my rocker here????…

    John said something about thinking of it like a birthday cake …while it may not be your birthday we can all enjoy the different slices of the cake…

    I can not believe some of the thoughts I choose to share with you people….like I said…just thoughts …what do I know…I am not a highly respected scientist nor am I “the medium”…just a lowly human conscientious observer

    #72206
    Jude
    Participant

    Originally posted by blugrrl

    ….have I fallen to far off my rocker here????…

    …while it may not be your birthday we can all enjoy the different slices of the cake…

    Blugrrl, I don’t think you’re off your rocker at all. I think you’ve made a very good point here.

    #72207
    Celestial
    Participant

    blugrrl…

    ….have I fallen to far off my rocker here????…

    Not at all. In fact, I was apologizing to her in my head. “I’m sorry, I can’t do this… I can’t stand up in front of all these people, have a microphone stuck in my hand and talk about you…” (plus it was being filmed for C.O., and I wasn’t up for any post-analysis).

    So, you’re totally right, I went home knowing that she’d been there… and the fact that she drew him a little to my left instead of right to me… I considered that her being clever. ;)

    However, I STILL think JE is human and sometimes he could ease up!!!

    (Trust me, there’s a lot of thoughts I can’t believe I share on this board either!)

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