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  • #86556
    irene461
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    Well, I was looking forward to staying awake through the whole hour last night and I did! :)

    After watching an hour of John basically being totally ignored by Kimmel and his guests, I began to feel differently about why JE’s guides might have wanted him to spend a week (not just an hour) on the show.

    My thought is that it might not be about spreading the message, having fun (which, to me, he looked like he wasn’t), reaching a new audience, etc.

    Maybe…maybe it was just a “character building” reminder for John? You know, a chance to spend a humbling week with a bunch of people (host, audience and guests) who don’t think much of what he does, don’t think he’s anything special, and obviously could care less about his gift.

    After the initial “balls” presentation, JK totally ignored John and none of the guests I saw seemed to even know who he was–or care.

    But, humility, even for someone who seems as nice as John, is probably a great experience to have every so often. Especially when you have a syndicated television show, thousands of cheering fans whenever you give group readings, so many people every day who are always saying how great you are and how much you and your work mean to them, etc.

    I think Kimmel, his guests’ and his audiences’ indifference to John and what he does–for five consecutive days– was probably an excellent reminder that, successful as he is now, there are still so many, many people to whom he is simply “no big deal”.

    And if that was the intent, it seems like a great message for “the boys” to be getting across, from time to time, to help keep someone focused on the spiritual path, despite so much material success.

    #86558
    forgiveness
    Participant

    That is an interesting take on it. I dont agree with it but interesting.

    I am sure that JE is still used to dealing with those who dont think much of his work..They are out there. I dont think that this past week on the Kimmel show was a change a pace for him. If anything it was a mircocasm (Spelling?) into what JE’s life is like on a daily basis.

    DO you think for one minute because JE has a succesful show that the hate letters, threats and name calling stops from the cynics.

    I am sure that Kimmel’s attitide is tame compared to what JE gets from the cynics.

    The Cynics are still out there. I think if anything the Kimmel show was a reminder for US of what JE has to put up with.

    YOU know his saying the Bullseye that wears on his butt is getting bigger and bigger…

    ( the bullseye not the but hehheeh)

    We are fortunate that we dont have deal with it and the number times that we run into cynics is so much smaller compared to a public figure like JE. We are strong in our beliefs and JE says we dont have to defend OUR belief

    I watched every single night and JE was getting warmed up and doing a fine Job. He stayed true to himself and if his message touched even one person in that 18-27 plus male audience….It was worth it!.

    A co host Jobs is not to be the focus but to blend in and add to a show. JE did that. The last night was the only exception. Kimmel did say it was a full night and they barely had time to fit everyone in. I fault the Host for not including JE and wanting to learn more but its his show and his right.

    If kimmel had even and ounce of enthusiasm for John like he had for Stan Lee the Comic stip inventor…I am sure JE would have felt even more confortable.

    respectfully
    Angelina

    #86560
    TeenaSee
    Participant

    Originally posted by irene461
    I think Kimmel, his guests’ and his audiences’ indifference to John and what he does–for five consecutive days– was probably an excellent reminder that, successful as he is now, there are still so many, many people to whom he is simply “no big deal”.[/quote]
    Wow… first off, I don’t think everyone was “indifferent” to John but I also don’t think it matters how “famous” someone becomes or how many people “like” you. It’s just simply NOT possible or necessary for everyone to think John is a big deal. I personally see John as a humble kind of guy, who is very good at what he does. I’m sure there are times when he asks himself “why me?”. He’s a teacher who has the opportunity to share his knowledge via television. He’s worked hard and been blessed to have a venue to reach those people who do need to receive “The Message”.

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    And if that was the intent, it seems like a great message for “the boys” to be getting across, from time to time, to help keep someone focused on the spiritual path, despite so much material success.

    Yes it’s good to stay focused on the spiritual path but I think John already works on this daily with his many prayers to include “Help me to surrender my ego and serve.” :angel:

    #86561
    Keroseen2akaJECares
    Participant

    Originally posted by AngelsMailroom
    Gosh, JEC, I have to say that I can’t agree with your take on JE’s final appearance. I feel that I must clear up the gift thing…. In the beginning, JK & JE were amiable chatting, and JK asked if JE enjoyed his week at the show. JE responded that he really had a good time, but had something for Kimmel to remember the week. In a very mischievious & obviously double entendre way, he said he was giving JK a couple of balls and proceeded to hand him a bag w/2 small crystal balls. JK appeared genuine in accepting them gracefully and in fun.

    Later in the show, the guy who wrote all the Spiderman & superheros was on. His name is ridiculously simple, but it escapes me at this time. He was delightful, & at one point they were joking around & discussing the new female hero Stripparella (Pam Anderson doing voice). In the spirit of his humor, Kimmel reached in his pocket & handed him a ball & made a guy comment. The fellow was thrilled, and asked “Can I keep this?” & Kimmel sort of went “Uh – if its OK with John”, and John said it was fine.

    John really didn’t say much throughout the show, but in shots where he could be seen, it was obvious that he was enjoying the show. Regarding his being on a show of that venue, IMHO, I believe that JE (as I must confess I also fall in this category) have a naughty side!:devil: Hard to believe, but true!!! Just because he (we) have do, it doesn’t dimish our deep personal beliefs as to why we are here. We are ALL JE friends here, and we know what he is about. So c’mon…. give a guy a break. He’s a wonderful, caring and sincere man with a great sense of humor – he’s not a saint. :yinyang:

    Well. it’s not exactly what happened with “the balls.” Kimmel said to the Spiderman guy “I have a gift for you”. Then, he reached into his pocket, pulled out one of the crystal balls and gave it to the guy. Only then he asked John if that was OK, not leaving JE much choice… Just put yourself in JE’s shoes for a moment. You gave somebody a present. 20 minutes later that person gives away the present to somebody else. How would you feel?

    EDIT: Ok, since my comments have been censored out, I’ll say it in Kimmel’s own words: “…does the spirit get interrupted when I behave like a moron?” I will never watch his shows ever again.

    #86562
    AngelsMailroom
    Participant

    I guess as in all things, there are different perceptions of how something is meant…….. IMHO, JK was joking around when he said that, but Stan Lee took it & asked if he could keep it. JK appeared nonplussed for a moment, and then asked John, as he didn’t quite no quite how to deal with that situation, since it wasn’t the response he had anticipated. JE & JK were referring to male genitilia, JEC – not crystal balls. You DID realize that, didn’t you?

    I also almost enjoyed watching JK squirm for a second, realizing that the old guy was serious! I also believe that JE was fully aware of how that happened. JE didn’t take offense, I am sure of that.

    I’m sure that if my old standards Letterman & Leno are re-runs, or boring, I’ll switch to see Kimmel now. I have a better flavor of his humor. Please remember – people are human. Whether they are beer swillers or martini drinkers, humor comes in many flavors. Appreciate the diversity. Trust me – if I felt that JK was deliberately demeaning instead of horsing around, I’d have to call Tony Soprano. (really – JUST KIDDING). I also realize that off color jokes or comments are not appreciated by some. It is their individual taste or take on what they believe is acceptable humor. But thank God, – this is America! We HAVE choices. I just like to be open & fair, ya know?:shrug: Who the heck am I to judge?

    #86564
    Jude
    Participant

    Originally posted by JEcares
    EDIT: Ok, since my comments have been censored out, I’ll say it in Kimmel’s own words: “…does the spirit get interrupted when I behave like a moron?” I will never watch his shows ever again.

    Thank you, JECares!

    You can call it “censored out,” if you wish, but in keeping with the Community Guidelines, the Number #1 Rule being, “Keep It Respectful”, yes, your comment was “edited.” It wasn’t the first, and it may not be the last, to be edited in this thread.

    To say that Kimmel is skeptical, tells tasteless jokes, makes crude remarks, tells stupid ghost jokes, or knows nothing about the process, etc. is one thing. Name-calling is another.

    :)

    #86565
    clareb
    Participant

    It’s been good reading everyones views on this,
    I cant really comment because we dont get the show over here
    in the UK but I so wish I could have seen this.
    Hmmm if anyone happened to record this,
    could you plz send it to me
    I would pay for the tape, P&P etc. obviously.

    I guess JE did the show to show how “normal” he is
    and possibly reach some new people and/or just for
    fun perhaps?

    I’ve been watching the new series here everynight,
    I’m so glad it’s still here!:jumper:

    Clare:)

    #86566
    doodledink
    Participant

    The beautiful part of JK sharing the crystal ball was John’s response to the request to give it to the man. John said “Sure! You should SHARE THE GIFT!” I was awestruck. Here he was in this situation where he’d tried to pass on these explanations of his ability all week to what we had considered deaf ears. Then, even in this moment where our first impression was that this ungrateful SOB comedian/ talk show host was dissin JE and the gift he had given him, John finds a way to eloquently put the entire week into perspective… we all wonder why he did it, questioned the intelligence of booking this venue, and complained all week about the discomfort that John was dealing with…and then there he goes and does it again…SLAPS ME IN THE FACE WITH ANOTHER IMPORTANT LESSON!….

    “YOU SHOULD SHARE THE GIFT!” That lead me to the realization that of course JE would overlook the questionable outcome of this appearance and potentially sacrifice some of his own credibility and personal comfort to do just that! This whole week has been for the benefit of those who have not seen him before. John could stay in his comfort zone, working with those of us who adore and support him, but is that really his calling? Many wise folks tell us that it is only when we are willing to risk on a personal level that true selfless acts prevail.

    Okay, Okay I know that there are a lot of us out there that have moments of doubt where we wonder if perhaps things (meaning associated with C/O and JE) could become about the money and fame. And maybe, there are even moments for John himself when he wonders if he’s headed down the wrong path. But tonight…in that one moment, in a comment that wasn’t even that well heard on the show, I learned a very very important lesson about judgement and critcism and selflessness.

    I believe that a lot of curiosity may have just been sparked and that as time goes by we will hear stories from folks who found their way to researching spirituality and mediumship because of his appearance on this show. If even one person has a change in their life like I did, then John has accomplished the goal.

    I only wish that John had been given the opportunity to close his last night on this show with his usual CAV comment to get JK and the audience to understand the concept of One Last Time. Hopefully they’ll find it by stopping in at Crossing Over when they are flipping channels to replace the now canceled Man Show. :lwink:

    #86571
    vivi56
    Participant

    I think we are trying to decide for ourselves why John was not respected as a very talented and wonderful human being and missing the “big picture”, which to me is the caliber of Jimmy Kimmel and his no respect for guests that might not fit the stereotype hollywood mold.
    I watched the entire week and I felt truthfiully it was painful to see how John was ignored most of the show and not taken seriously. I have been reading the postings on the board and agree with most of them. I feel that last night was awful with the guests who really didn’t even say hello to John and there he was sitting through such a trashy show.
    I will continue to go to seminars, in fact this weekend he is in Providence and I am going with my daughter. John is such a special person I hope he doesn’t subject himself to such an experience as this past week.
    I personally think that a show like JK is not the venue for John and it gives the cynics more to talk about. Hopefully in the future he will be on Oprah or a 60 minutes or dateline.
    I am glad the week is over and I won’t be watching JK again.

    :daisy: :daisy: Viv:daisy: :daisy:

    #86573
    kristenr
    Participant

    Originally posted by doodledink
    The beautiful part of JK sharing the crystal ball was John’s response to the request to give it to the man. John said “Sure! You should SHARE THE GIFT!” I was awestruck. Here he was in this situation where he’d tried to pass on these explanations of his ability all week to what we had considered deaf ears. Then, even in this moment where our first impression was that this ungrateful SOB comedian/ talk show host was dissin JE and the gift he had given him, John finds a way to eloquently put the entire week into perspective… we all wonder why he did it, questioned the intelligence of booking this venue, and complained all week about the discomfort that John was dealing with…and then there he goes and does it again…SLAPS ME IN THE FACE WITH ANOTHER IMPORTANT LESSON!….

    “YOU SHOULD SHARE THE GIFT!” That lead me to the realization that of course JE would overlook the questionable outcome of this appearance and potentially sacrifice some of his own credibility and personal comfort to do just that! This whole week has been for the benefit of those who have not seen him before. John could stay in his comfort zone, working with those of us who adore and support him, but is that really his calling? Many wise folks tell us that it is only when we are willing to risk on a personal level that true selfless acts prevail.

    Okay, Okay I know that there are a lot of us out there that have moments of doubt where we wonder if perhaps things (meaning associated with C/O and JE) could become about the money and fame. And maybe, there are even moments for John himself when he wonders if he’s headed down the wrong path. But tonight…in that one moment, in a comment that wasn’t even that well heard on the show, I learned a very very important lesson about judgement and critcism and selflessness.

    I believe that a lot of curiosity may have just been sparked and that as time goes by we will hear stories from folks who found their way to researching spirituality and mediumship because of his appearance on this show. If even one person has a change in their life like I did, then John has accomplished the goal.

    I only wish that John had been given the opportunity to close his last night on this show with his usual CAV comment to get JK and the audience to understand the concept of One Last Time. Hopefully they’ll find it by stopping in at Crossing Over when they are flipping channels to replace the now canceled Man Show. :lwink:

    Tammy, you are so very wise. You words are so very important – I had to quote the whole thing! Thank you! As you said – this week was not for those of us who have seen him before. Even if not for those who haven’t seen the show – even if it was only for himself. I’m glad he did it. I probably won’t watch JK again, but it was wonderful to see John be himself despite everything.

    If someone watched Kimmel and judged John soley on that appearance, they did NOT have an open mind to begin with – their mind was already made up. Believers or skeptics could not be changed one way or the other by the JK show.

    You’re right – the most important thing JE’s appearance did was make people think and maybe take the opportunity to do some research and ask questions. That can never be a bad thing!

    Thank you!

    #86574
    AngelsMailroom
    Participant

    I was going to tease you about repeating yourself, but I figured you might take it wrong, since we have differing opinions on JE & JK dichotemy (sp). At any rate, I have been having terrible problems with my AOL sending mail, & when I finally get it sent, it sends 2 or 3 or 4 copies of whatever I mail out. Is that happening with you also? Do you have AOL? With all the trouble I had been having with my computer, I’d be happy to know its the server, & not this ‘puter again! Thanks!

    #86575
    gibbits
    Participant

    Thank you everyone for your wonderful, diverse opinions this week! I’ve enjoyed this thread and am sorry that we will be stepping away from it as John’s appearances on JK’s show fade away with time. The sharing has been great. JECares, I so appreciate your strong, passionate opinions and am glad that you expressed them. I also appreciated the people who believed that John’s guest-hosting on this show was probably okay. I personally agree with Tammy’s remark ” that it is only when we are willing to risk on a personal level that true selfless acts prevail. ” To create change, we have to step out of our comfort zones. And if people on the fence decided to dismiss John’s work, then that is where those people need to be for now. We can’t force change on those who are not ready for it and I don’t fault them for stepping back. Conversely, I’m sure there are people who would not normally watch CO, but who are now curious because they could see that not only does John have a gift, but that he is also a regular guy.

    I won’t watch Jimmy Kimmel again, but it was rather touching to see how impressed JK was with the young cup-stacking champion. I think he felt truly humbled, and that was a nice change. :lwink:

    One more thing about the crystal balls. John and JK were playing a bit with the sexual connotations of the gift of two balls, and with JK putting them into his pocket. I also believe that once a gift is given, the reciepient has the perogative to share that gift with another if he/she so chooses. In a way, I think it was generous of JK to share the gift with someone he admires, even if that was not his original intent. The guest, who had “Lee” somewhere in his name seemed to truly appreciate it, and John had to get a bit of a chuckle out of it.

    So thanks again, everyone. Hopefully, another interesting discussion will be as captivating as this one in the near future. :D

    Gay

    #86577
    AngelsMailroom
    Participant

    About creating change & stepping out of your comfort zone… sometimes it is also giving others the impetus to step out of their comfort zone…. Remembering that our children learn best by our example, not by our preaching. And our Lord Himself looked for the black sheep who needed His love, but wasn’t necessarily looking for it, and numbered Mary Magdeline as one He showed His love and mercy.;)

    :angel2:

    #86578
    WPBEAR14
    Participant

    try watching again last night. I even taped it. The crystal balls were cute and seemed to catch JK off guard. No readings, not much conversation…with John at all. JE did get his info out about “others doing this for themselves and not needing him.”
    I’m not a big Jim Rome fan, but my husband is, so he will watch the tape, I’m sure.

    John said on the show that he had fun, so it must have been a good experience for him.

    So from reading this thread and from my own “watching” I would say the “raunchy/hard-to-take shows” were Mon & Tues. With Wednesday being the “reading show” and the Thursday and Friday shows were more mellow.

    Thanks for this thread, it has been very interesting to read everyone’s perspective on the experience. We do seem to be a bit over protective of John….possibly due to our own uncertainties here at Earth school. Perhaps we see him as “standing for our belief system” and when that gets criticized, we feel criticized, too. Just a thought!

    Peace,
    POOH

    #86596
    OtherSideTemp
    Participant

    I will be attending John’s first seminar since doing JKL on Friday. It will be interesting to see if he has anything to say about the experience or if anyone asks him about it. I will fill you all in on what he has to say if anything at all. :)

    In a previous post, someone mentioned that a few years ago Rosie O’Donnell did something that was offensive to the process. I honestly haven’t heard about that. Can anyone fill me in?

    Thanks

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