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    Hi y’all,
    I don’t know if this should be in the “regular” Astrology or Aastrology Student’s Corner, but it just felt better going here.

    I have a young friend who is planning a courthouse wedding for 11:00 AM this Friday, March 16 (I only found out yesterday), in St Louis. What is bothering me is that that time on that day puts Saturn 2 degrees away from the 4th house cusp, and opposite Moon, Mars and Neptune. It is trine Jupiter at the descendant, but that’s all.

    And here is where I usually have the worst trouble. On the one hand, it seems as if Saturn opposite so much would make for a rocky road, especially so close to the 4th house, but… it could maybe imply strong foundation (framework) – but how many of us live out the best of our planets all the time, eh? :redface3:

    Frankly, I’d much rather they did this on Mar 20th, at least Saturn would have a couple more trines, hopefully making it easier to deal with, y’know? (there’s a bit of a – ahem – time constraint, so there’s not really any hope of waiting a couple of months for these oppositions to pass). Actually, it would give a Grand Trine to the chart, involving Saturn – giving some tools to deal with those Saturn oppositions (or am I all wet?).

    If anyone would like to take a look at the chart and let me know what you think, I would sooo appreciate it.


    and, do I mention any of this to the young friend? I’m not sure how to approach it if I did, but OTOH can I in good conscience avoid mentioning it? She did have me “go over” her chart and his, so it wouldn’t be totally out of the blue. sigh.

    maria V

    Hi Nan:wave:

    Gee it’s nice to see some action in the old astrology corner – thanks for posting this!

    Ok, before you go telling your friend to call her wedding off over Saturn panic, allow me to remind you that the “rules” of electional astrology are entirely different from natal astrology.

    The very first thing to consider is that your time is wrong for the chart. The election for the wedding and the subsequent “wedding chart” is born when the couple completes their vows. Up until the very minute before either party can back out. Keeping this in mind I drew up a chart for 11:30 am but we won’t know the exact time until your friend tells us. We can assume it will be between 11:15 and 11:45 however so I jumped in the middle.

    Now, in a wedding election as with any election the most important consideration is the Moon because it is the co-ruler of the person initiating action (in this case your friend).

    We only consider applying aspects and a quick look at the Moon tells me that there is an applying sextile to Venus, conjunction to Mercury, sextile to Pluto and conjunction to MC. There are NO harsh aspects to the Moon making this chart look very promising already!

    But wait there’s more. The Ascendant ruler is the Groom and the 7th house ruler is the Bride. Check out the aspects Mercury and Jupiter are making and be very happy to note that they are also making a positive wide sextile to each other. More good news!

    Venus rules marriage and Venus is making a brilliant trine to Pluto and sextile to Mercury and the MC. Mars is the other natural ruler of marriage and Mars is making tons of positive aspects!

    Saturn is nowhere near the IC in my chart and even if it were who cares? The aspects Saturn makes are of no consequence because we only look at applying aspects and Saturn is not a key player in this chart unless it were aspecting the Moon (and it’s not cause it’s separating) or it was the ruler of the 1st or 7th.

    In my humble opinion, this is a dynamite marriage chart. Jupiter on the angle of marriage fortifies the marriage beautifully and the final aspect of the Moon being positive suggests a long and happy marriage indeed.

    Happy wedding day to your friend Nan – she picked a beautiful chart!:hearts: :clap: :hearts:

    And just so you know, I am close to being certified as an astrologer specializing in elections so I am very confident in giving this chart my full blessing!

    I welcome your comments or questions as well as anyone else on the board.:wave:


    Oh wow! How cool is THAT!

    OB-viously, there’s lots and lots more to learn here! I’m glad I hadn’t said anything to her
    because I’d have had to eat my words :laff2: Not to mention possibly casting a shadow on a
    happy day!

    I have a feeling they’re going to be making goo-goo eyes :love: at each other at the time of the
    actual “I Do’s” so I imagine your “guesstimate” will probably be more accurate than if we
    counted on them to notice.

    I’d been seeing this chart as if it were the “birth” of a marriage, instead of an “Electional” chart.
    Many thanks for setting me straight – and for pointing out how much more there is to learn.

    I didn’t know you were specializing in elections – very cool. We’ll have to have a party when
    you’re officially certified! :banana:

    many, many thanks,

    maria V

    @owningfire 132715 wrote:

    I’d been seeing this chart as if it were the “birth” of a marriage, instead of an “Electional” chart.

    You’re right Nan – it’s both. This will be their marriage chart and you can still read it as a birth chart but it will tell you about the tone and themes of their marriage.

    Sure there are tense aspects when you look at it as a birth chart but remember that you need tension in order to grow and develop. What a boring marriage it will be without the occasional brawl, don’t you think? :froggie:

    For example, there will be a major transformation in the home and family scene for this couple as a result of the marriage. The square of Sun to Pluto explains this literally with Sun ruling the 4th house.

    You can go on and on looking at the tense aspects in the marriage chart and attempt to find the “themes” if you wanted to. The 9th house emphasis is certainly interesting and you’ll get to watch how that plays out in their marriage.

    It is a lot of fun! :hearts:

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